Easy steps to make Star Trek unwatchable by OPPYH

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Easy steps to make Star Trek unwatchable

POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 09:20
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:28 AM

Easy steps to make Star trek unwatchable:

-Cancellation. Enterprise, and TOS were cut short because ratings were not good enough for the networks approval.

-Brannon Braga. He wonders how he alone could be responsible for the death of a Trek series. quick answer buddy: TECHNO BABBLE. Somehow he managed to eliminate imagination in the series(His early TNG stories were abysmal) in favor of scientific mumbo jumbo, that made the viewers response to his episodes "as boring as watching paint dry". He single handedly made Voyager sub par, and ran Enterprise into a wall.

-Xindi story ark in Enterprise.....yup that will do it.

Anyone got more to add?

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:14 AM

WHOZIT

I agree, how many times have I seen "Enterprise" and said to myself, I've seen this story before. I think the mistake they made with "Enterprise" was they were more interested in action and FX and less on personal storys of the crew. They should have began the show with more storys about 1st contacts and them bumbling around. (spilling soup in some big shots lap, etc) They could have had a little more fun.

I think this new "STAR TREK" may work since they're starting fresh. They're in going a different direction, I just hope they don't go to far off the path that made the original a "classic".

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:40 AM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Easy steps to make Star trek unwatchable:

Anyone got more to add?

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Umm, putting one second of it onto a tv screen.I'm sorry, but I must be one of the few people here that absolutely hates Star trek.It's all techno babble, with no discernible character specialties whatsoever.The original series was watchable, but that's about it.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:18 AM

LWAVES

Too many filler episodes where something goes wrong with the holodeck.
How many times have they been in mortal danger, seconds away from death, when someone has the 'bright' idea of re-routing energy from somewhere, modifying the amplitude (or whatever) of some gizmo etc etc. The main culprit of this being the deflector shield array thingy that seems so adaptable it could probably make you breakfast as well.

I really like TOS it's a classic. I like later DS9, some Voyager is okay (I stress the 'some'), Enterprise is lacklustre and rewrote too much history and TNG was badly acted and boring (see holodeck malfunctions as a major problem with this show).

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:40 AM

OPPYH

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Originally posted by lwaves:

How many times have they been in mortal danger, seconds away from death, when someone has the 'bright' idea of re-routing energy from somewhere, modifying the amplitude (or whatever) of some gizmo etc etc.

Haha...you just described 90% of Voyager(and alot of TNG).

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:32 AM

MEATPUPPET42

How TNG stayed on the air especially with that gay ass background music in the first season I will never know. They feed us this crap and cancel firefly WTF?

I love it! It's like wiping your ass with silk.

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:59 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Fanservice at the expense of plot - Enterprise was notorious for that kinda thing.

Kirk, well, kirk could get AWAY with that, it was part of his character, so much that being called up short on it (finally!) in ST6 rolled me outta the chair - and it never came at the expense of the story, so when Enterprise couldn't cut it on story, they went to that kinda stuff instead, and Voyager wasn't immune to it neither, grrr.

I hated that they took a promising storyline, the breaking of the vulcan strangehold and birth of the federation, and took it off in a really badly done arc which was a thinly veiled copy of the same lameass tripe 24(which I hated) ran off of, the aforementioned xindi arc.

And of course, the whole retcon/time travel thing, in combination with the technogibberish, which is yoinked straight out of the very worst comic book plotlines from the lowest historical point of their already pathetic quality.

But I think the absolute worst of it ?
Trying to take themselves too seriously - if you're gonna do space opera ham and cheese, then bring it ON, don't try to pretend it's art instead of entertainment!

I'd rather watch Shatner chewing the scenery than watch Enterprise try to turn obvious fanservice into some half-ass pretend-serious "relationship" right out of a truly abysmal soap opera...

I do gotta hand it to the 2009 Trek though, I never in a million years thought ANYONE could come up with a younger, convincing Kirk, but Pine laid the smack down, right down to the truly obnoxious personal arrogance that made Kirk charming, and grating, at the same time - and Karl Urban had me half convinced he *WAS* Deforest Kelly, seriously.

And that's Kirk, in a nutshell, innit ?

-F

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:45 PM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I'd rather watch Shatner chewing the scenery than watch Enterprise try to turn obvious fanservice into some half-ass pretend-serious "relationship" right out of a truly abysmal soap opera...

I do gotta hand it to the 2009 Trek though, I never in a million years thought ANYONE could come up with a younger, convincing Kirk, but Pine laid the smack down, right down to the truly obnoxious personal arrogance that made Kirk charming, and grating, at the same time - and Karl Urban had me half convinced he *WAS* Deforest Kelly, seriously.

And that's Kirk, in a nutshell, innit ?

*Penultimate post on this thread*

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:08 PM

ALIASSE

Rubbery-looking bodies. All of the cast of Enterprise had rubbery, orangey bodies apart from the doctor. *tries to half-look at screen, repulsed by site of rubbery, orangey bodies, switches off*

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Monday, April 12, 2010 5:51 AM

MENDUR

I'm going to go in a different direction.

Easy two-step to make Star Trek unwatchable:

1. Create a prequel series ("Enterprise") which locks certain events in place, then
2. Create a movie ("Star Trek") which gives everybody the same names but makes them act completely differently than the way they've acted for the last 40 years.

Would it have killed them to just create new characters to follow? For example: have the time traveller kill/disperse the entire original crew and find out who would have stepped up to the line of fire to take their places? Instead, we have actors doing impersonations of other actors in the role.

Heh. You may begin yelling at me ... now.

The Codex Menduri: http://mendur.blogspot.com

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Monday, April 12, 2010 8:31 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Mendur:

2. Create a movie ("Star Trek") which gives everybody the same names but makes them act completely differently than the way they've acted for the last 40 years.

They seemed pretty in-character to me an mosty of the millions who saw it.

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Would it have killed them to just create new characters to follow?

Killed them - no. But the whole point was to bring back the one dynamic that everyone, even non-fans, have an affinity for - the Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic. A new set of characters would not have fit the bill.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, April 12, 2010 1:44 PM

STEAMER

I LOVE that MP. Love it, love it, LOVE IT.

I also love the original series above and beyond all other Trek, but there's one easy step to making certain episodes truly unwatchable: concentrate on Shatner's antics in the third season along with the atrocious set design. It's painfully obvious they were having budget problems at that point. Or, oh, watch the episode with the space hippies. That is one episode I have steadfastly refused to watch since getting the DVD sets, as I don't want it to sour me on all Trek for good. :P

I blow my nose at you and towel your bottom! I fart in your general direction!

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Monday, April 12, 2010 3:42 PM

FREMDFIRMA

I always hated that ep too, it was a blatant sop to Roddenberry's intense dislike of folks who didn't share his worldview...

But, instead, I offer THIS.
(Make damn sure not be drinking anything)

The fact that it prolly makes ole Rod spin in his grave like a diesel generator just makes it that much funnier.

-EvilHippyFrem

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:40 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Maybe I have some Reaver genes in me or something, but hey, I liked Enterprise. I really liked Season 3's story arc with the Xindi, and I very much liked the non-Xindi episodes that year including "North Star" and "Carpenter Street." Season 4's 2-parter that took place in the "alternate universe" was outstanding as well. We get to see all the main characters showing their acting skills portraying bad folks in an evil empire. And back the the original Trek, c'mon, you can't sit here and bash any episode, even The Way To Eden, which had much to admire and love about it back in the day.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:20 AM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.

Quote:
Originally posted by Mendur:
I'm going to go in a different direction.

Easy two-step to make Star Trek unwatchable:

1. Create a prequel series ("Enterprise") which locks certain events in place, then
2. Create a movie ("Star Trek") which gives everybody the same names but makes them act completely differently than the way they've acted for the last 40 years.

Seconded!

I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.

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