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Originally posted by RawDeal:
WHAT PG-13. Those holes must be kidding. What can we see that's even remotely cool with a rating like that.

C'mon people, two badass aliens are going battle it out using snowballs? Give me a break. I was even looking forward for AVP, but now....

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are all rated PG or PG-13.

Come to think of it, I think that the Alien films got worse in quality even as they got more violent. The first film, while it has its flaws, is the least violent of the bunch-- it relies on its characters and fear of the unknown to shock its viewers. The chest-buster sequence is violent, true, but it is shown--flashed, rather-- across the screen very quickly, and Ridley focuses more on the horrified crewmembers and then the monster rather than the blood and gore. Aliens relies on the frenzied cameras of the Marines to create a sense of disorientation for the audience.

The Alien movies don't really scare me-- I know that the aliens are make-believe. They're more of an adventure/action fest, with the continuing tragic story of Ripley and her struggle against the Aliens and the Company. (One of the worst things about Alien:Resurrection was that it cut the Company storyline out completely. It was as bad as if the River/Blue Sun storyline was cut out of Serenity )

That said, personally, I'm looking forward to AvP. But you knew that already.

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Originally posted by FilmCritic3000:
Well, I had no plan to watch Paul "I'm A Hack" W.S. Anderson butcher two franchises with his paper-thin characterizations. Now comes the word (via me just seeing a TV spot on surprise! FOX) that it's going to be rated PG-13. Way to betray two film series's roots. While not the greatest movie in the world, New Line Cinema at least got Freddy Vs. Jason right, with a hard R rating and plenty of what genre fans want: gore. Another demerit in the long line of catering to the almighty dollar. I have connections that would allow me to see this "thing" for free at the theater but in all honesty, (especially now with the PG-13 rating), I can't find a compelling reason to waste my valuable time. Your thoughts?

FilmCritic3000

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Originally posted by Variation23:

'Course Joss wrote that one and, seems to me, developed some of the ideas that Firefly was based on. There's probably a whole thread on this somewhere in here but I just thought I'd mention it.

Figure I'll watch AVP too. At some point anyway.

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Originally posted by Variation23:

'Course Joss wrote that one and, seems to me, developed some of the ideas that Firefly was based on. There's probably a whole thread on this somewhere in here but I just thought I'd mention it.

Figure I'll watch AVP too. At some point anyway.

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I liked some things about Alien:Resurrection (Cole, the mercs, General Perez, the funny dialogue), but what I disliked, I disliked with a passion (no Weyland-Yutani, Michael Wincott's character getting killed off in such a incredibly stupid manner, the ending of the starship crashing into Earth, which would have probably killed everyone on the planet).

Frankly, though, I don't see why everyone is so disappointed as to AvP's rating, and so quick to judge it as a namby-pamby film because of it. Like I said, a film doesn't have to have tons of gore and blood splashed about to be exciting and suspenseful. I'm not going to call it a cop-out or a bad film until I go see it in the theatres and say at the end, "Boy, that was a bad film, PG-13 OR R rating."

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Originally posted by Variation23:
'Course Joss wrote that one and, seems to me, developed some of the ideas that Firefly was based on. There's probably a whole thread on this somewhere in here but I just thought I'd mention it.

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Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:
Not sure if Joss' script got anywhere near the screen - at least in a form that he recognised.

This is off course the same P T Anderson that made Resident Evil PG-13. If you are making that movie - you need to do the gore.

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Originally posted by JuTin:
Secondly, P T Anderson made Boogie Nights - Paul W S Anderson made Resident Evil which was rated R and it was even censored from it's original NC-17 version.

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Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:

Not sure if Joss' script got anywhere near the screen - at least in a form that he recognised.

This is off course the same P T Anderson that made Resident Evil PG-13. If you are making that movie - you need to do the gore. I'm not a huge horror fan, nor a huge Alien fan truth be told, but if you're going to do it, do it properly.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Originally posted by DeSangro:
I have to disagree with you about the gore. I don't think that a horror or fright flick needs to have a ton of gore to be exciting or frightening. I have not seen any of the Halloween films, but from what I hear, the first one was the best-- extremely chilling, but with minimal blood 'n' guts. Likewise with the first two Alien film-- not all that gory by today's standards, but on average, they're the ones that people (including myself) enjoyed the most.

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