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Fringe Moving to Firefly's Friday Night Death Slot

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Monday, November 22, 2010 4:03 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Sci-Fi Victims of the Fox Friday Death Slot: www.aintitcool.com/node/47519

Fringe will be paired with reality show Kitchen Nightmares. www.fringetelevision.com/2010/11/fringe-to-move-to-friday-night-in.htm
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The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 22, 2010 4:46 PM

FLORALBUNNY

Do they not like it? I watch every week. It's been very interesting.

bun

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Monday, November 22, 2010 5:08 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Actually, Fringe will occupy the time slot that John Doe had, 9pm/8 Central. Firefly was on an hour earlier.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:58 AM

LWAVES

Is the show actually any good?
I mean it as a genuine question as I saw the pilot and wasn't bowled over by it so never went any further. It reminded me too much of The X-Files which I still love and I didn't want to take on another show to watch so it lost out. But more recently I have been thinking about catching up.
How does it compare to X-Files?
Is it like any other show or does it stand alone?

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:25 AM

STORYMARK

I really dig it. It's not really much like the X-File at all, beyond the surface detail of there being an FBI agent and strange occurrences. The basic premise (and this is a bit of a season 1 spoiler) is that

Select to view spoiler:

there is a second, parallel/alternate dimension Earth, and that the barrier between the two Earths has been broken. The breaking of that barrier is destroying reality on the "other" Earth, and so they have begun a covert war against our world, thinking if they destroy us, their world will be safe

. There's a lot more to it than that, particularly regarding the character backgrounds and such, but that's the over-arching premise.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:55 AM

CYBERSNARK

Plus it includes a card-carrying Mad Scientist and the walking embodiment of snark as lead characters.

Seriously, the show is worth watching for Walter alone.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:18 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Even worse, there's rumors that "The Good Guys" isn't on the new Fox schedule.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:34 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Plus it includes a card-carrying Mad Scientist and the walking embodiment of snark as lead characters.

Seriously, the show is worth watching for Walter alone.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

True, Walter kicks serious ass.

Which was a pleasant surprise for me, as I was only familiar with Noble from Lord of the Rings, where he was not exactly an endearing fella.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:36 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Even worse, there's rumors that "The Good Guys" isn't on the new Fox schedule.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

That's because it was already canceled

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/19/running-wilde-and-the-good
-guys-effectively-canceled/72899:

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:55 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

As more and more people move to DVR devices, is the time slot really that important anymore?

I ask because I really don't know, and have only anecdotal and personal experiences to go by. I don't watch TV in "real time" anymore - I DVR it and watch on MY schedule. So I might watch Fringe at 6:30 on a Saturday, or 9:00pm Sunday. Most of the people I know are the same way - that's why I ask. Or do so few people have DVRs that it's an insignificant ratings statistic?

This Space For Rent!

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:58 AM

STORYMARK

DVR ratings are factored in, but not weighed as heavily. It's all about the ad buys, and those who DVR skip most ads, so they're not worth as much, in the eyes of the suits.

Fringe's ratings have been dropping since midway through last year. It could be dropping viewers, or they could be time-shifting more. But either way, it's an expensive show that's not making money.

I just hope they get to wrap it up. 3 seasons isn't so bad.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:59 PM

TRAVELER

As has already been said, Walter kicks ass. Olivia and Peter do their share.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:53 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
As more and more people move to DVR devices, is the time slot really that important anymore?

Online viewing, either the network's website or Hulu, counts for more, since you can't fast forward through the commercials there.

I'll add my vote for Fringe, consistently one of the best shows currently in production. Yes, John Noble as Walter Bishop is the high point, but there are many other elements I love as well. They may have lost viewers this year due to the focus on the alternate universe, but I think it is getting better each week. I do hope they are warned ahead of time if this will be the last season.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:31 PM

HKCAVALIER

Quote:
Originally posted by lwaves:
Is the show actually any good?
I mean it as a genuine question as I saw the pilot and wasn't bowled over by it so never went any further. It reminded me too much of The X-Files which I still love and I didn't want to take on another show to watch so it lost out. But more recently I have been thinking about catching up.
How does it compare to X-Files?
Is it like any other show or does it stand alone?

For me, it's hands down the best show since our beloved FF, but you gotta be in it for the long haul to get the full epic narrative. The characters are beautifully written with mountains of humanitas and badassery to spare.

Imagine Firefly only different--not the plot, but the characters and the relationships--

1.) Mal and River are the same person, or rather, River starts out thinking she's Mal and over the course of two seasons discovers that she's River.

2.) Book has lost part of his mind (literally) and channels Wash on a regular basis. Over the course of two seasons, he discovers that before he lost his mind he was basically Niska, and then he tries to undo all the atrocities he committed when he was Niska.

2.) Practically everyone is, or was once, or will become, or has a counterpart in an alternate universe who is/was/will become--a badass.

3.) Hard science fiction in prime time! Whoohoo! The entire series is a meditation on science and responsibility that would make Mary Shelley proud.

4.) The pilot, on the badass scale is kinda on the lowest rung (think Shindig or something like that). It felt kinda long and did all that "setting things up" stuff that folks are obsessed with in pilots. It gets awesome immediately there after. The season 2 episode "White Tulip" guest starring Buckaroo Banzai himself rates up there with Out of Gas and Ariel for me. As good as tv sci fi gets.

5.) All this set in the present day, with oodles of naturalism and dark conspiracies that actually get explained during the course of the show so they can move on to new storylines! Whoohoo again!

6.) WARNING: It will effectively ruin the X-files for you. After Fringe, X-files looks veerrrrrry dated indeed.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:29 AM

LWAVES

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
For me, it's hands down the best show since our beloved FF, but you gotta be in it for the long haul to get the full epic narrative.

Thanks HK and the others for the great respones. I think I'm gonna have to get me this show.

The long haul isn't a problem, I love shows like that. I'm a big fan of new BSG and Lost.

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The pilot, on the badass scale is kinda on the lowest rung. It felt kinda long and did all that "setting things up" stuff that folks are obsessed with in pilots. It gets awesome immediately there after.

That's partly why I asked coz I'd heard it got a lot better. If it wasn't for time constraints at the time I would have watched further but it wasn't to be.

Cheers again.

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

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Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:05 AM

SISTER

I truly love this show. I will watch it, wherever they put it. I received the first season DVD's for my b-day.

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Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:29 AM

HEDGEHOG

FOX president:"muahahaha another one bites the dust"

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Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:14 AM

CYBERSNARK

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Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:29 AM

HEDGEHOG

Walter for president :D.He makes more sense than most of politicians :p.I really hope they dont cancel Fringe just started to enjoy it and we all need another x-files type show

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Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:40 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Inside Joke as First Friday Episode of 'Fringe' is Entitled 'Firefly'
by Catherine Lawson, posted Dec 9th 2010 7:40AM
www.tvsquad.com/2010/12/09/inside-joke-as-first-friday-episode-of-frin
ge-is-entitled-fir/

When Fox announced last month that it was moving 'Fringe' to Friday nights at 9PM ET -- a.k.a. "The Death Slot" -- fans immediately feared the worst, despite the show's producers saying the move was a positive one.

Now, blastr.com reports that in a cheeky self-referential nod to fans' fears and the fate of other shows in the dreaded slot, the first Friday night episode is called 'Firefly.' http://blastr.com/2010/12/fringess-1st-friday-night.php

Remember 'Firefly'? Joss Whedon's post-'Buffy' space western launched in 2002 to great acclaim, but after falling (Friday night) ratings Fox canceled it after airing only 11 episodes. Gulp.

Despite its short life on network TV 'Firefly' launched the careers of stars Morena Baccarin ('V') and Nathan Fillion ('Castle'), and the show's writers have gone on to work their magic on series like 'Battlestar Galactica,' 'Haven,' 'Supernatural' and 'Warehouse 13.'

This kind of in-joking is nothing new to 'Fringe' producers, who often have their tongues firmly in their cheeks. Previous episode titles have paid homage to numerous influences, ranging from Philip K. Dick and 'Blade Runner' ('Do Shapeshifters Dream of Electric Sheep?'), to the boardgame 'Clue' ('Olivia. In the Lab. With the Revolver.') and the poet Robert Frost ('The Road Not Taken').

Although Fox has said it has no plans to cancel 'Fringe,' ratings have declined recently and fewer than 5 million people watched a recent episode, which is definitely not a good sign. By comparison, Fox canceled 'Firefly' after the audience dropped to just under 4.5 million.

At least the nod to 'Firefly' shows that 'Fringe' producers know the trouble they could be in come January when their show moves to the pit of despair, Friday nights.

'Fringe' airs tonight, 9PM ET on Fox.
New episodes will air Friday nights, 9PM ET on Fox from January 21.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:02 AM

FOLLOWMAL

I second and third all the high praise above.
Fringe is excellent for so many reasons.

Walter is #1. He's priceless.
Olivia is #2. She's kickass and stellar.
Peter is #3. He's loyal to a fault and it's endearing.

This is my favorite show currently. I LOVE Castle, but I can't miss Fringe. I was sad when I heard they moved it to Friday and when I told my Mom who likes it too...she sighed and predicted it's death as most of us have.

I hope they go out with a bang and can wrap up the story- until then I'm there, no matter where they move it or what time.

Naming the first ep on Friday "Firefly" is cheeky.
Good for them!

http://www.kidsneedtoread.org/

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Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:12 AM

FOLLOWMAL

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

Had to trek over to youtube to see it, but it was so much fun watching JUST Walter's moments. :)
Thanks.

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Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:21 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Quote:
Originally posted by FollowMal:
I hope they go out with a bang and can wrap up the story . . .

Firefly is in its ninth season in the alternate universe. The Fringe producers should call in the Firefly cast to make a short clip from an episode on the other side. Wash could still be alive!

Fringe' airs tonight, 9PM ET on Fox.
New episodes will air Friday nights, 9PM ET on Fox from January 21.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:23 AM

FOLLOWMAL

Quote:
Originally posted by two:
Quote:
Originally posted by FollowMal:
I hope they go out with a bang and can wrap up the story . . .
Firefly is in its ninth season in the alternate universe. The Fringe producers should call in the Firefly cast to make a short clip from an episode on the other side. Wash could still be alive!

Fringe' airs tonight, 9PM ET on Fox.
New episodes will air Friday nights, 9PM ET on Fox from January 21.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

Sounds like an excellent episode. Perhaps they could call it Serenity X2? ;)

http://www.kidsneedtoread.org/

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