FOX leaning towards renewing 'Dollhouse' by Haken

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FOX leaning towards renewing 'Dollhouse'

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UPDATED: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 08:00
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Sunday, April 5, 2009 10:38 PM

Likes to mess with stuffs.

The Airlock Alpha website is reporting that FOX is leaning towards renewing 'Dollhouse.'

http://www.airlockalpha.com/news426236.html

Interesting development, but it's still a rumor at best at this point.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 2:57 AM

2BY2GINGERBLUE

I hope this is true I really enjoy the show. I don't watch it on fridays, but purchase it on itunes and watch it at the gym.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 4:31 AM

ZEEK

Well it is getting better. So, I can see that logic. But Fox + logic? Does not compute.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 4:48 AM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

I always said to give this show the chance at a season 2. If buffy had been judged solely on the merits of season 1, it would never have become great later.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 6:35 AM

MSA

Fingers crossed:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 7:57 AM

SINGATE

There's a ray of hope. I keep seeing talk of this being cancelled along with TSCC and Castle. If all 3 go I won't have much left to watch.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 8:22 AM

EMMAZULE

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Well it is getting better. So, I can see that logic. But Fox + logic? Does not compute.

Haha, well, it is possible for a network that's changed hands a lot to start doing things differently on occasion.

Well, internal politics may also play a role, to be a little more honest, as well. While it is true that one of Dollhouse's advocates was fired from Fox recently as part of "restructuring of the entertainment division"...

...this same advocate is the one who thought it would be a good idea to premiere the show on Friday the 13th at 9PM in February. As opposed to the original plan of an earlier-in-the-week timeslot, premiering in January alongside the latest season of 24, which is a huge hit and would have provided a much bigger lead audience than Sarah Connor. Then again, it gets better ratings than its lead, so, hmm. And rumor has it it had more than just him arguing for it PLUS there is the simple truth that it's both comparatively inexpensive to produce (as the site you link points out, because the show didn't have the usual pilot episode - instead jumping straight into writing and production - the extra funds that would normally go towards developing a pilot went instead towards constructing the set that they use in every episode, saving them a right bundle of money), and because it's mostly Fox-produced, it's cheaper for them to license than shows like Sarah Connor.

If it comes down to money and some of the folks in charge still like the show at this point and feel that the last guy made a mistake scheduling it the way he did, both renewal and a new timeslot might indeed happen, in other words.

My only hope is that they don't schedule it in such a way that it runs into too many other things I (or for that matter too many other people) watch or DVR. I'm willing to just DVR two shows and timeshift one or both but I would rather not have the hassle of picking which of three shows to give up... thankfully I don't think this would actually be a problem, since me and my household only go so far as to DVR certain things, and some of them are on Fox so they shouldn't compete and some of them get repeated later in the week so we can just shift when it tapes, but I just hope it doesn't become a hassle. :| 'Cause I mean, I'm not going to stop watching Dollhouse, because it's just getting good and I'm starting to really like it now, but it would still be annoying to have to fiddle with the DVR settings too much, you know? :P

This is good, good news though as far as I'm concerned. This is like practically the first week anybody has bothered to be anything but The Sky Is Falling about this show! So glad to see it's not necessarily all doom and gloom, because I would hate for all the It's Like Totally Canceled You Guys talk to become a self-fulfilling prophecy :P

Also, them shifting the timeslot is... I mean it could go any number of ways obviously depending on how other networks schedule their own shows, but what it partly means is that they think there's still enough of an audience to not only warrant the budget for a few more episodes but that it's also better than replacing it entirely with something else. Which IMO is good news, or failing that at least not actually bad. God knows it's better than they offered Firefly in the end, no?

Maybe somebody over there really DOES like Joss now...

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Monday, April 6, 2009 8:33 AM

EMMAZULE

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:
There's a ray of hope. I keep seeing talk of this being cancelled along with TSCC and Castle. If all 3 go I won't have much left to watch.

TSCC is more likely to get canceled, to be honest. Dollhouse? Who knows at this point. But TSCC is unlikely to get a third season and even less likely to survive past that, sad to say.

Point one: Part of the reason TSCC even got a second season was because Warner Bros (which owsn the Terminator franchise) allowed them a discount on the license for the show, partly to promote WB's "Terminator:Salvation" movie, that comes out this summer. Once it's pout, though, WB will have no inherent reason to keep the license cheap. So, TSCC will likely be more expensive to produce next season.

Point two: its ratings went down when it got moved. While you or I can obviously see this as "well, clearly it's the timeslot's fault", from a managerial perspective, the show has already started losing value for its advertisers and thus has started to lose money.

Point three: it gets lower ratings than Dollhouse despite having had an extra season to grab an audience. Its audience is also (though Fox allegedly does not use these figures) thought by some calculations I've seen to be less stable from week to week than Dollhouse's audience is, with Dollhouse having a shocking high audience stability if you account for overnight viewings, etc..

Point four: Dollhouse is actually, apparently, cheaper to produce on the whole and definitely will be by next season.

TSCC, in short, is probably humming a dirge right now. Dollhouse, not so much... but we'll have to wait and see on both.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 8:00 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
I always said to give this show the chance at a season 2. If buffy had been judged solely on the merits of season 1, it would never have become great later.

But Buffy also wasn't on Fox.

I'm not trying to be snarky, but you're comparing apples to bears. What qualified as a "hit" for a fledgling network like the WB wouldn't be a gnat on a cow's ass at one of the Big Four networks. As such, the show has to deliver big numbers, and damned quick. The WB just didn't have the resources to bring something in to replace Buffy right away, or they might well have done so.

I love Joss's work, but Dollhouse is boring to me, and I don't like any of the characters. Pretty much every episode I see, I'm thinking, "If they killed this character right now, I'd be fine with that." And that list of characters includes Echo at this point.

Sorry, but that's how I feel about it. Pick up the pace, or cancel the sumbitch now.

Mike

Just lying smiling in the dark,
Shooting stars around your heart,
Dreams come bouncing in your head
pure and simple every time.
Now you're crying in your sleep;
I wish you'd never learnt to weep.
Don't sell the dreams you should be keeping
pure and simple every time.
"Pure", by Lightning Seeds

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