What Good Sci-Fi am I missing? by Calhoun

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What Good Sci-Fi am I missing?

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Sunday, June 30, 2024 3:09 PM

Hate review by some?

'Initially Promising Dark Matter Sinks Under Weight of Prestige TV Bloat'

https://www.rogerebert.com/streaming/dark-matter-tv-review

Great show, is it perfect not sure, is it the greatest not sure. However it ranks in my Top10 for now easily.

The book had a great ending it was very like the ending of the show.

Yet I think the tv show did the ending a little better, it just adds a tiny but of extra something a moment with a character or a way to say another line of dialogue. The books seemed more finished but the tv show also has a great ending while leaving it a little open.

Blake Crouch as a Novelist or Writer might only be starting and yet to make his fantasy scifi book masterpiece but as an experience this tv show was great.

there is positives in entertainment
a failure of studios from Hollywood can learn a lot from this guy
it seems art can move forward and say something

Although this series is entertainment scifi I believe it is tell us something and maybe this tv series has a deeper meaning but it does not bash you over the head with a political statement because it is for you to decide what it says

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I took a gamble and had faith that they knew what they were doing and got us this far...

I would have liked it to do more quirky Twilight Zone stuff, how Currency was different or subtle hints on how language or slang might be different.

isnt it interesting your brain quickly knows Read vs READ or 'Reed' instrument vs 'Red' Color

Have you read many a scifi book? I had a drive went shopping and bought some stuff and had a speed read on some of the guys books so I had some idea what was coming
its one single book and an easy read

good books and the tv show maybe even better

‘Dark Matter’: Joel Edgerton & Showrunner Blake Crouch Dive Into Finale Spoilers, Season 2, ‘Star Wars’ & More
https://theplaylist.net/dark-matter-joel-edgerton-showrunner-blake-cro
uch-dive-into-finale-spoilers-season-2-star-wars-more-bingeworthy-podcast-20240628/

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Sunday, June 30, 2024 9:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Great show, is it perfect not sure, is it the greatest not sure. However it ranks in my Top10 for now easily.

I won't say that it's perfect. I don't know if Perfect is possible. But damn if it wasn't close.

It's easy to say the greatest show right after you finished it. Is it better than Breaking Bad or Battlestar Galactica or some other shows in my Top 10? Probably something I'd have to wait a while to comment on if I was really going for objectivity. Might even require a 2nd watch of all of them too.

Easily makes my Top 5 or even Top 3 though. I don't think rewatching things would change that.

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The book had a great ending it was very like the ending of the show.

Yet I think the tv show did the ending a little better, it just adds a tiny but of extra something a moment with a character or a way to say another line of dialogue. The books seemed more finished but the tv show also has a great ending while leaving it a little open.

I like that you mentioned how they left it a "little open". I'm about 99.9% sure that was done to leave the door open for a 2nd season, but that's something I never want to see happen. I like how much was still left to the imagination with the way they ended it, even though it was much closer to a Hollywood ending than leaving you with only Episode 8 would have. Is there a happily ever after? Maybe... But we've watched enough shows like Sliders to know that the "Utopia" worlds usually weren't all they were cracked up to be, don't we?

I think the most important part to them sticking the landing on that end was the scene where they were going to leave in the box and they had to walk through 50 different versions of Jason who came there to say goodbye. You could cut the tension with a knife. What a horrible end for 50 or so versions of Jason who hadn't already been murdered or died somewhere in the box and never even made it back home.

To make it that far and still lose... It was not anything close to fair for any one of them. Imagine having to live the rest of your life losing everything you cared about while another version of you didn't. It's like your wife leaving you and taking the kid for another man, but that other man is just the lucky version of you.

That had to be done. They couldn't end this show with a neat little bow wrapped around it. If that scene wasn't in the last episode I think I probably would have hated the way that it ended.

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Blake Crouch as a Novelist or Writer might only be starting and yet to make his fantasy scifi book masterpiece but as an experience this tv show was great.

there is positives in entertainment
a failure of studios from Hollywood can learn a lot from this guy
it seems art can move forward and say something

Although this series is entertainment scifi I believe it is tell us something and maybe this tv series has a deeper meaning but it does not bash you over the head with a political statement because it is for you to decide what it says

Pretty sure there were some politics in there. The "Utopia" world was essentially Obamaworld.

I can overlook it though. I was just happy to know that Jason and Amanda would see each other again, even though that would kind of break Amanda's heart all over again when she saw Daniella. It was pretty awesome to see that she still appeared to be doing great and that Ryan-1 found her, not even knowing that Jason-1 and Daniella-1 were on their way to find him shortly... And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even think that Jason-1 would have any clue that Ryan-1 was already here waiting for him too along with Amanda.

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I took a gamble and had faith that they knew what they were doing and got us this far...

isnt it interesting your brain quickly knows Read vs READ or 'Reed' instrument vs 'Red' Color

It is. My apologies though... I'm not connecting A to B here....?

Quote:
Have you read many a scifi book? I had a drive went shopping and bought some stuff and had a speed read on some of the guys books so I had some idea what was coming
its one single book and an easy read

good books and the tv show maybe even better

‘Dark Matter’: Joel Edgerton & Showrunner Blake Crouch Dive Into Finale Spoilers, Season 2, ‘Star Wars’ & More
https://theplaylist.net/dark-matter-joel-edgerton-showrunner-blake-cro
uch-dive-into-finale-spoilers-season-2-star-wars-more-bingeworthy-podcast-20240628/

When I was young I was a super avid reader. In my early 20's I read quite a lot again too. Tons of old sci-fi books that my dad had. Some really good stuff.

Off the top of my head...

To Your Scattered Bodies Go
Jesus on Mars
The Deathworld Trilogy
Footfall
Dream Park
The Great Explosion*
Legacy of Heorot

Tons of sci-fi short stories were read during that time too. I know I'm forgetting more books I read during that time than I've remembered here.

I haven't really read much in the way of fiction in a long time though. I know I did read something since I lived in my current house, but I don't remember what it was or how long ago. The last fiction book I actually remember reading was Steven King's collection Everything's Eventual, some time before 2010 is when that would have been.

Maybe I'll look for Blake Crouch's stuff off your recommendation. I'm sure my dad wouldn't mind reading him too if I do. Thanks for the info.

*Oh wait... The Great Explosion wasn't my Dad's. I let him borrow that from me. That would have been the last book I remember reading in my current house. I found the third part of it "And Then There Were None..." online while I was at work one night and read it on down time and it was one of the best things I ever read. My brother remembered that and maybe like 5 years later he tracked down an old hardcover novel of The Great Explosion which introduced me to 2 parts of that story I didn't even know existed. That was one of the best and most thoughtful birthday presents I'd ever gotten from anyone in my life, so kind of mad at myself for not remembering all of that until now, actually.

Thanks brother.

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Sunday, June 30, 2024 11:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Speaking of The Great Explosion, if you haven't ever read that, I would highly recommend it.

When I first joined this site I remember arguing that there's really nothing original out there and even though I loved Firefly and what Joss did, I think that he was HEAVILY inspired by Legacy of Heorot and some other Sci-Fi when he created the concept of the 'Verse itself. I had argued that this is because everything that we saw in Firefly could have been happening concurrently with every event that was happening on a remote planet that the cast of Legacy of Heorot were attempting to domesticate.

At the same time, on a far off distant planet, a man was teaching his son how to juggle geese.

Some of us traveled so far away from the governments to terraform a planet that it might take the Alliance another 200 years before they grew powerful enough to finally get around to "liberating" us. Maybe 500 years.

Maybe 1,000 years of solitude before they needed to expand further and take our resources?

Imagine all of those stories that could be told when the only limit is your imagination. No Multiverse Necessary.

Some of these planets could have civilizations that were over 1,000 years in the making before any one of them had ever met one of these now Biblical "Alliance" representatives. Seen by no living eyes and only fabled to have been the friends, family and co-workers of those who came here 12 generations before them. The original settlers of the only place they've ever known as home?

... incidentally, current polling indicated that before the first contact with the Alliance Representatives, roughly 4 out of every 5 citizens believed that The Alliance was real and that Space Travel was even possible. When polling was limited to only the 13 to 30 demographic, the number who believed The Alliance was not folklore had fallen dramatically to only 1 out of every 5 citizens.

It appears that the results of the infiltration of their planet by our sleeper operatives has gone beyond any of our wildest expectations this time. The day that we can claim we possess the ability to propagandize the youth of a planet fully to our designs in only 2 generations is yet to come... but 80.273% is a staggering increase of 1.2% above our previous record. We haven't seen anything like that in 2 decades. If we can replicate the success here and continue to make improvements at this rate, we could speed up the Liberation tenfold before our grandchildren retire.

Meanwhile... Progress IS progress. Every percent increase we make on the front end is half a percent decrease in work the bosses need to do on the back end.

Bonuses are going to be HUGE this year! Merry Fordmas!

I'd imagine the staggering amount of diversity of thought that would have been taking place in that Universe and how brokenly beautiful that would have been. The sheer amount of dissimilar thoughts from worlds who weren't aware of each other's existences or any of their unique views on any subject would be incalculable. That would have gone on for hundreds, or even potentially thousands of years. Right up until the day that The Alliance eventually expanded far enough to destroy the old culture and history of your People and made everyone the same.

Years later I read "And Then There Were None..." and as I was reading it, I was just weaving everything happening on that planet into the same universe shown to use in Firefly, and all the other connections I had made and integrated previously. Likely a different time than the events of Firefly as most of them were in my mind, but it really didn't matter if it took place 3 weeks before Mal bought Serenity or 1,000 years after Wash's funeral. These were all stories taking place in the same fictional universe.

Then one day, my brother gave me The Great Explosion for my birthday and well...

Now I had the blueprint and documented history of how interplanetary travel was invented in The 'Verse. And then I got a look into how the initial pilgrimages began. Then, for the second time, I was a witness to the beginning of the inevitable conformity of the entire universe.

... Or at least an attempt at the beginning of the inevitable conformity of the entire universe.

F.—I.W.

I was never taking a swing at Joss it when I said Firefly wasn't innocent of lacking originality despite how great it was. It wasn't a diss.

I thought it was pretty damn great what he did. So what that other parts of this story were already written about decades before he made Firefly? It doesn't even matter if his story wasn't consciously intended to be interconnected with any of this. His contributions to it were phenomenal additions no matter the catalyst, particularly the contribution of his characters and the criminally unfinished plotlines. The updates on his idea of what the government structure would look like long after it all began were appreciated too.

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