The 4400: Cancelled (Dead Zone may follow).

UPDATED: Saturday, January 19, 2008 14:45
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:23 AM


Haven't seen a post on this but on the 4400's USA Network official site it states that the show has been cancelled. It is no more.
It came from a post on the board from Scott Peters so appears to be pretty official.
There is a petition to try and keep it going, if you are interested.

Word is that The Dead Zone may follow. Nothing official yet though.

That's two shows I like that won't/may not have a proper ending. I wish they'd allow at least a two hour movie to try and wrap the stories up a bit, get some kind of proper closure.

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."


Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:29 AM


That sucks. The 4400 was just getting to a very interesting place at the end of last season.

Very dissapointing. Especially given the success of Heroes, which covers a lot of the same ground, but blatantly rips their stories off from old comics. At least The 4400 had an original take.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."


Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:48 AM


That really bums me out to hear that. That and BIG LOVE and ENTOURAGE were my only two summer series I actually watched. And while I wouldn't call HEROES a knock-off of THE 4400 (I think it's more a case of two similar shows running parallel of each other at the same time, like STUDIO 60 and 30 ROCK. Same idea, different approach), THE 4400 was getting really good at the end. Admittedly most of the 4th season was a bit of a wash, but that final episode really went above and beyond. And that ending, which was perfectly awesome in it's own right, is the second best use of "Where is My Mind" by The Pixies, with FIGHT CLUB obviously being the best one.

Maybe they can do what Joss did and maybe do a comic book miniseries that ties up all the loose ends.

"And it starts with a sentence that might last a lifetime, or it all might just go down in flames. If I let you know me, then why would you want me? Each day I don't is a shame. Each day I don't is a great shame."

Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack


Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:44 AM



Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Maybe they can do what Joss did and maybe do a comic book miniseries that ties up all the loose ends.

I'm thinking more along the lines of a TV movie. I haven't kept up as much with The Dead Zone, but a two-hour movie could probably help tie-up the remaining loose ends with The 4400, if handled correctly.

As for the cancellation, it seems USA is vying for F*x's title. One show is bad enough, but both?


"This is my timey-wimey detector. It goes ding when there's stuff. Also, it can boil an egg at 30 paces, whether you want it to or not, actually, so I've learned to stay away from hens. It's not pretty when they blow."


Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:37 PM


I thought the 4400 season finale could work perfectly well for a series finale. It implied a fair amount of resolution, IMHO.

Personally, I'll be glad if DZ is cancelled, too. This last year was the worst, at least as much of it as I could watch. They show started out being so good, but really lost it.

"Your gratuitous jello awaits." - Dr. Helen Magnus, Sanctuary


Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:43 PM


Personally I hope every show gets canceled. Then we might have a better chance of getting Firefly back, especially since Joss is sucking up to FOX again.


Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:14 AM


Confirmed: The 4400 and Dead Zone both canceled because "we need to give our new shows a platform to grow."

WTH does that mean?



Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:32 PM


No...did they? I was sure that this one would stick! There wasn't an actor on that show that I didn't like, and the stories and characters were great. I hope we get a miniseries/TV movie after that excellent finale. I'd hate to see it all just drift away.

I'm losing my optimism with television in general...it's like the networks are totally unaware that there are people who watch their shows. It seems like all their decisions are made from little offices that have no touch with the outside world, and they just get bored with certain shows.

"My way of being polite, or however...well, it's the only way I have of showing you that I like you. Of showing respect." Simon Tam, Jaynestown


Friday, December 28, 2007 6:16 PM


Speaking of The 4400 and The Dead Zone...

...here are a couple of theories on the science of each show:

The 4400 -

Promicin interacts with a person's natural brainwide neurotransmitters, neuroelectrical pulses and the neuronal wiring in their cerebellum to cause the brain to create a special electromagnetic field that exist as a semi-sentient energy-based lifeform. The lifeform takes form as an inconspicuous energy pattern linked to the natural electromagnetic field of a person's body. Since the EM field lifeform permiates a person's entire body, it innately possesses an intrinsic understanding of all aspects of physiology (including DNA) to a degree that is beyond human comprehension. The semi-sentience of the EM field is tied into a person's own consciousness and as a result, its actions are based on the person's subconscious will. Because of this connection, the EM field takes signals from a promicin-positive's psyche, as well as their individual genetic structure, stress hormones, and immune system messengers to alter the person's physiology in a way that imbues them with a superhuman ability that might be useful to that particular promicin-positive in their daily life. As a result, every person develops a relatively unique superhuman ability after taking promicin and that ability is actually connected to their personality along with their inherent physiology and environment (both natural and social).

The Dead Zone -

In the laws of physics, there are four known fundamental forces. The four forces are: the electromagnetic force, the weak nuclear force, the strong nuclear force, and gravity. The strong nuclear force holds together positively charged protons and neutral neutrons in the nuclei of atoms. The weak nuclear force controls the radioactive decay of atoms. The other two forces can operate on larger scales. Electromagnetism attracts negatively charged electrons and positively charged protons to each other, creating atoms and molecules and all matter. Gravity governs all matter, drawing it together, creating the structure of every star system and the universe.

There also exist a fifth force, a quantum potential force field that pervades all space. This force acts on us at all times. It acts on every particle in every atom in our bodies. And on every particle in every atom in everything else in the universe. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the universe together.

Every particle is accompanied and governed by a wave in this quantum potential field. This quantum potential wave is part of a physical force field, like a gravitational field, that affects the course of particles. This force does not decrease with distance, unlike other forces. A single quantum potential wave can control two entangled particles, no matter how far apart they go. So the quantum potential force violates both locality and independence. The quantum potential field conveys any change instantaneously over all of space because it carries information about the whole universe.

Simply put, the quantum potential field is a continuous field throughout the universe that acts instantaneously throughout the universe. It is not created by or concentrated around matter, unlike other forces. Although the quantum potential force guides particles, it is not generated by them. Unlike the other forces, the quantum potential has no known physical source.

Because the quantum potential force permeates all space and is not affected by distance, it in essence entangles or interconnects all particles. The universe is not a collection of objects, but a web of vibrating interconnected patterns governed by this quantum potential force. Just as space and time are interconnected as part of a space-time continuum, everything is connected as part of a single continuum. The entire universe is one single, complex entity. The whole universe is enfolded in everything and each thing is enfolded in the whole; and it is the quantum potential force that controls and connects all things.

The emergent property of human consciousness is not only one piece of the unified universe, it is actually an expression of the fifth force as it interconnects with the quantum structures of the complex neurons of the human brain. Thus, the human mind is a projection of the unifying force in the universe and therefore has an omnipresent and universal aspect that can be considered the "metaconscious mind". Most people are neurologically incapable of casually perceiving the metaconscious. However occasionally the metaconscious and the subconscious might interact with each other, which explains the rare clairvoyant intuition that some people every once and a while have.

Because of Johnny Smith's abnormal neuronal wiring, his subconscious and metaconscious are permanently interconnected in an extraordinary way that enables him to tap into and consciously perceive the quantum potential field on a broad level. As a result, his subconscious mind can perceive through the seemingly chaotic physical universe to the true order and nature enfolded in the universe. On a subconscious level, he observes this order and is a part of it. He is connected to all things and is unconsciously aware of literally everything in the universe, right down to the position and velocity of every particle in the universe at any given moment (clairvoyance, clairsentience). This enables his subconscious mind to ascertain their past locations (retrocognition) and even deduce their probable future interactions (precognition). Johnny's mind can store this much information because along with the neuronal, the metaconscious mind also works on a quantum level that extends beyond the mere organic.

Johnny's power is object-based. When in physical contact with an object, the metaphysical bond in the fifth force between Johnny and the object strengthens. Just as various things in our subconscious are picked up by our conscious mind, knowledge that is especially notable to Johnny's psyche is picked up by his conscious mind as a result of the strengthened bond. Essentially by touching a physical object, he is able to "read" moments from the history of where that object has been and where it might be in the future (psychometry). This gets a little more complicated when the "object" is a human being, but the principle is the same: by touching a person, Johnny can see glimpses of where that person has been in the past, and where they might, or possibly, or probably will be in the future. The future is not written in stone, so Johnny is sometimes able to change that future by altering a situation in the present.

Johnny is able to view the past or future of an object or person in "third person omniscient" as an objective observer, or "first person singular" by seeing through the other person's eyes. In his visions, Johnny only sees reality - what actually happened, what actually will happen (if he doesn't act). He does not see perceptions, delusions, hallucinations, etc.

Johnny's power has a psychological element. In other words, it is mediated by Johnny's mind, and Johnny's mind is not always a pure channel. An element of doubt is always present and adds an element of tension to the use of Johnny's power -- he can never be 100% certain of the truth of any vision. But he still has to act according to his own conscience and the information he has been given.

Johnny occasional has visions that involve his own future. In effect, his brain is in touch with his own body. Thus, when Johnny's subconscious senses something traumatic in his own isolated future, the message it sends Johnny through visions and nightmares does not have to be stimulated by any outside source. It can come from within Johnny himself.


Friday, January 18, 2008 8:40 AM


Perhaps you should have said "a couple of theories on the pseudoscience of each show".


A lot of the belief that smart people are right is an illusion caused by smart people being very convincing ... even when they are wrong.


Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:45 PM


For the 4400th time: stop cancelling good shows! :)

"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam






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