Language discussion-Outside the 'Verse by Tristan

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Language discussion-Outside the 'Verse

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 3:43 AM

A few of us in the 21st Floor thread discovered we have a common love for languages of all sorts...so I decided to create this thread so we can continue our discussions without bothering anyone else.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 3:49 AM

Yay! And Hafa adai!

So, we've discussed french, gaelic, chamorro, had some spanish thrown in there. What's next?

Know any Korean? Cuz I've got a bit of that up my sleeve.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 3:57 AM

No Korean...but I do know a smattering of Japanese...the obvious (thank you, etc) and the not so obvious (You stop now!).
Korean...that would be interesting! Whatcha got?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 4:01 AM

I can write it in the korean alphabet, it's a bit harder writing it phonetically.

Let's see:

An yung ha say yo. Chow ee da min Serenity em nee dah. Pan gap sam nee da. (*bows ever so slightly*)

That is: Hello, my name is Serenity. It is a pleasure to meet you. Or something like that.

We had a Japanese exchange pastor at our church for a week back in April. I only learned one word: ah koo gah may. Which means "longing". It's the name of this Japanese wooden doll that was given to me.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 4:04 AM

So how many of you good folks speak Welsh then?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 4:06 AM

you willing to give lessons?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 4:14 AM

Korean is pretty!
The Japanese phrases I learned were:

Anatay yamatay kouroosai! Which means Please stop now!

Also: I ishiite imasu--which means I Love You.

And then: Doshday *and* doshday-mo...which are Why and Why Not.
All of the above is phoenetic, of course.

Welsh? The only word I know in Welsh is "thull"...which is supposed to mean "full".

I would like to learn as well!
I have seen written modern Welsh, and Welsh from the middle ages...and it is a scary-looking language! But when you hear it spoken...wow!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 4:24 AM

lol.Those are very useful phrases.

For some reason, I can't remember I love you in Korean, but I can remember it in Turkish, which is Sevi seviyorum.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 4:42 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

No Korean

But I have a smattering of French, German, Italian, Greek and Gaelic. Can't write Gaelic tho. Oh and Welsh

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:25 AM

French does seem to have a large "following"...did you happen to take it while in school, FMF?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:29 AM

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mais oui!

but also had a nanny francais. Well actually, she was ethiopian, but she spoke French and Italian.

My problem now is that I start off in one language and end up in the other. So I speak Fritaliacais or Italiench.

I can cuss like a sailor in Greek and count to 11 (thanks to the lady that taught me all this at 4 in Athens - she thought it was funny to hear the sweet little american girl say F you!

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:39 AM

Mixing languages...oh, yes! I know just enough Spanish on top of the French I speak to get myself in trouble...I'll start out in French, and if I can't think of the word, I'll switch to Spanish; if I can't think of it in Spanish, I'll go down the list until I find it...may even end up in English

We used to have get-togethers in college where the rule was no English could be spoken...the longer the night got, the more fun it was trying to figure out what we were trying to say to each other!

FMF, the Ethiopian nanny...did she speak proper French (ie conjugate all the verbs) or was it Ivory Coast French?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:43 AM

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proper french

nuns taught her

scary things nuns

I have no birthplace. It no longer exists as it was! That is so weird. I was born in Asmara, Ethiopia!

Which is now of course once again Asmara, Eritrea

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:50 AM

Nuns...never had the chance to be taught by them, but I have heard the horror stories...

Curiosity is killing me...how did you end up being born in Ethiopia?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:54 AM

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My dad was a "Communications" person for the Navy. He went from enlisted to Officer (GO MUSTANGS!) During the cold war, the Navy manned a number of the "Communications" stations.

You name it, I have been there - at least on the European side. And all over the US east coast

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:02 AM

Shiny!
I spent my youth traveling all around Europe (home was around Paris, but we vacationed alot) back when there was still an Iron Curtain. Never made it to Africa, but I really wanted to go to Egypt.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:15 AM

Yay! Another Navy brat! Though I was only in Guam and then the US. But I've moved 26 times in nearly 29 years.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:18 AM

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24 moves
13 different schools

Whoo Hoo Navy Brats!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:22 AM

I was lucky...only about ten moves in 16 years. Been here in Alabama since 1987. Think I might stay.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:24 AM

You got me beat in schools. I went to 9 elementary-high school.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:25 AM

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where you b?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:27 AM

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Because we moved back and forth from Europe, we would have to stay with family, then move into our house. So I have about 5 schools that I went to for about a month.

Also - I have a letter from the state department - not a birth certificate, and if I had wanted, I could have had dual citizenship.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:39 AM

Right now I live in South Carolina. Where are you?

I was born in a US territory, so it wasn't an issue, but I always get hassled about my birth certificate, because it's usually the first one anyone's ever seen from Guam.

I did have a bit of a run-in at the Canadian border once. I was in HS and terrified. I was on a tour bus and they decided to stop our bus and ask each of us if we were US citizens. Only the Border Guard asked me if I had been born in the Continental US, to which I replied "No, sir" and then he demanded to know where I was born, if I was a US citizen and wanted to see my birth certificate. It was all fine and good, but for a minute is was terrified they weren't going to let me into Canada!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:41 AM

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You threat to Canada you!

I always have problems. I have a letter on the old tissue paper from a typwriter and a picture of me at 3 months. The problem is that the letter is dated 3 months after my birth - so there are ALWAYS issues!

I am now in Foley, AL. Outside of Mobile.

I loved SC. #2 was born at the Charleston Naval Hospital during Desert Storm. Ahh the memories!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:43 AM

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my favorite quote

"plus ca change c'est plus les meme chose"

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:45 AM

Yeah, typewriter tissue paper would be a problem. I just had to go apply for a passport and the woman at the post office tried to give me grief over my birth certificate, so I can't imagine trying to show them a piece of paper and a picture! lol

South Carolina's not the place for me. I liked it better up north, Philly and the like. But, I'm here now, so I'm making the best of it!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:52 AM

Anniston, AL. I-20 between Birmingham and Atlanta.

I guess I was lucky in being born in the Continental US, but I have always had a valid passport. In case I needed to get out of the country quick-like

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:12 AM

Tristan, Spelling is way off on the Japanese, but understand what your getting at.
For example the correct way to spell I love you in the romanization of Japanese is: ai shite iru or more polite form ai shite imasu. Anyways glad you picked up some of the words. Hope that helps ya out. Anyone wants to learn Japanese, just give me a hallor.

mata, Ookami yori

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:14 AM

Ookamikawahara, thank you!
Was I close on the other two? I learned them from a friend in high school...but they never gave me spellings...

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:20 AM

Nope, a bit off, I will go through in a sec and try and help correct them. Don't worry even Japanese citizines are a bit off in spelling things in English from Japanese. Some examples are shi prounced like she, they will shorten it to si. or chi, sometimes they will write it as ti. So gets a bit weird if your not familar with it.

mata, Ookami yori

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:21 AM

Thank you!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:32 AM

Tristan
No prob, your welcome
The first one I can tell you part of it.
anata yameta kourosai. anata is you, yameru is the verb to stob so polite form for stop is yame or in this case w/ the past tense yameta and I'm not sure what kourosai is doing.
why is doshite and whynot/by any means is doshitemo. So hope that helps you out.

mata, Ookami yori

Suren, I be aimen to be misbehaven here

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:34 AM

So I am WAAY too lazy to read everything that has already been posted. Sorry! But I got to the point where you were talking about mixing languages.
Last summer I had the fantastic opporunity to live in Germany with my cousin. I spent two weeks in Italy before hand--and learned some Italian phrases--and then went to France and ended in Germany for the rest of the summer.
Talk about mixing languages!! I got so, SO messed up! I was saying "grazie" in France, "enstchuldegung" in Rome (German for "excuse me"), and I have a funny story about trying to order food at McDonald's in Frerman(French/German--my own creation). And then I had to come home and speak English!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:34 AM

Ayup, thank you much!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 8:51 AM

Mattie, ouch!

One thing I did like about ordering McDonald's in France was the beer! I got a Big Mac meal with a beer! In a cup with a straw, even! How shiny is that!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:39 AM

very shiny, if you like beer.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:43 AM

A beer in a cup? With a straw?! Haha! I can imagine cheap wine or something like that in France, but beer... That's funny! After I came home I got a job in a restaruant and worked with a whole bunch of people who speak Spanish. That was fun! My brain has been so muddled by foreign languages--not that that's a bad thing, it's actually made for an entertaining time.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:49 AM

Serenity, normally I am not a beer drinker (Guinness being the exception, but as my brother calls it, it's more of a beer milkshake), but in the US, you can't get alcoholic beverages at a drive-through...it was a novel experience!

Mattie, wine...hmm. What wine would go best with a Big Mac and fries?

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:58 AM

Tristan, I'd probably get a beer, too, just cuz I could and I don't like beer at all.

In Florida, they have these "drive thru" beverage places. They sell soda and chips and things, but mostly they sell beer and wine coolers and whatnot. The place is like a big garage, but with cases of beer on the sides, instead of all the mechanic equipment. So, you could literally drive inside, roll down your window, tell the colege kid working how many cases of Bud you wanted,he'd go grab them and load them in your car and then you'd drive away.

The whole concept just cracked me up. I mean, you don't even have to get out of your car!!

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 3:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
you willing to give lessons?

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I always had a fancy to bein' a school teacher...'cept for them pesky kids!

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 3:10 AM

yeah, pretty much how I feel about it.

Though, I think I might enjoy being a ESL teacher somewhere. If I ever had the opportunity.

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Friday, June 9, 2006 4:30 AM

Mattie, bonjour! Nous semblons avoir avons laisse ceci aller! C'a ete quelques jours, et je manque la conversation deja...comment va-tu? Que s'etait produit dans votre partie du monde ?

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Friday, June 9, 2006 4:49 AM

Tristan, bonjour a tu! J'ai manque nos conversations francais aussi. Les choses on ete plutot occupees pour moi. Mais, je ferai toujours l'heure pour francais! J'ai ete travaillent e allent a l'ecole et a toutes mes soirres on ete reserves avec des activites d'amusement. Je suis tres herueux cependant parc qu'il pleut aujurd'hui!! J'aime la pluie--encore plus quand il a fait tres chaud!
Et vous? Entrer de choses sont-il bien dans votre partie du mondue?

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Friday, June 9, 2006 5:20 AM

Je voudrais qu'il pleuve ici! C'est tres chaud ici et tres humide! Je n'aime pas la chauler, et il est tres mauvais pour mon jardin.
Je suis au travail, mais c'est vendredi! Je n'ai rien a faire c'est weekend excepte pour faire l'armure!
Tu es aux universite? Si tu es, qu'etudies-tu?

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Friday, June 9, 2006 5:36 AM

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J'ai un jour splendide ! J'ai déjà pissé outre de 2 fournisseurs aujourd'hui ! Ils ont raccroché sur moi. Ainsi il est "m'a laissé parlent à votre surveillant!"

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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Friday, June 9, 2006 5:53 AM

FMF, bonjour, et bienvenue aux conversations francaises dans le 'verse!
Vous avez pisse outre de deux ? Bon debut au jour!
Certains n'ont aucun sens d'amusement de nos jours, eh? Penses juste dans cette façon, les week-end approches!

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Friday, June 9, 2006 5:57 AM

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Je pense que c'est la manière parfaite pour un début ABANDONÉ (FORSAKEN) le week-end ! Quel meilleur que pissant outre des lutins sur votre chemin à l'enfer dans un handbasket. En outre, j'ai besoin de plus d'aggravation pour envoyer mon asthme de l'étape 3 à l'étape 4 - limite d'hôpital ! Ha Ha

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Friday, June 9, 2006 6:20 AM

Bien sur! Nous sommes abandonne (Forsaken) et nous visons a bruler!

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Friday, June 9, 2006 6:27 AM

Tristan, je suis tres desole c'est tres chaud et humide pour vous! Votre jardin pauvre!
Oui, je vais a l'universite. J'etudier l'hisorie d'art (?) et l'anglais--c'est une double commande. Je ne sais pas que je voudrais faire avec les commandes, mais j'ai l'heure decouvrir.
Quel genre de jardin vous developpez-vous?
Parfois il fait beau de ne pas avoir des plans pour le week-end. Je suis sur qu'il sera fantastique pour vous!

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Friday, June 9, 2006 7:08 AM

Ne inquietez pas. Je n'emploie aucun de mes trois degres, mais j'ai eu plaisir a les gagner!
Mon jardin est juste petit, et juste recemment plante.
Merci de vos pensees; 'espere que tu as un week-end merveilleux, aussi!
Pour l'amusement, que faites-tu?

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