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Firefly Shout-Out in Law & Order?

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:42 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Just watching this week's episode of "Law & Order", and I couldn't help noticing the judge's name in the case - Judge Malcolm Reynolds. :) Think that was on purpose, or just a coincidence?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde


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Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:44 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Since he was a judge I assume he was wearing a black robe instead of a brown coat, right?




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Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:49 AM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


Martin, Melvin, Mark, or Mike Reynolds sound like everyday names to me, but Malcolm Reynolds? No, that was definitely on purpose. Which is awesome!


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Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:25 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Had to be on purpose - maybe ABC buddies of Nathan's?

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:05 PM

ECGORDON

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Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Had to be on purpose - maybe ABC buddies of Nathan's?


If it was on purpose it wouldn't be due to Firefly/Nathan fans at ABC since L&O is an NBC show.




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Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:24 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Had to be on purpose - maybe ABC buddies of Nathan's?


If it was on purpose it wouldn't be due to Firefly/Nathan fans at ABC since L&O is an NBC show.




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I kind of envision it as one or two "closet fans" on the writing staff who snuck it in there, kind of as a wink-and-a-nod to the staff at Castle and to Joss, as a bit of an appreciation, and a way of saying, "Hey, we're still thinkin' about y'all!"

In other words, I don't think it was a NETWORK decision, as much as just a small individual decision.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:49 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


According to IMDb.com that would have been a repeat from last year (Season 19, Episode 7), with Ned Beatty playing the judge. None of the writers credited have any connection to Joss, at least professionally, so probably just fans.




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Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:49 PM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Had to be on purpose - maybe ABC buddies of Nathan's?


If it was on purpose it wouldn't be due to Firefly/Nathan fans at ABC since L&O is an NBC show.




Nathan has buddies at NBC? Cool! I'm bad with my networks...

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Had to be on purpose - maybe ABC buddies of Nathan's?


If it was on purpose it wouldn't be due to Firefly/Nathan fans at ABC since L&O is an NBC show.




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I suspect they are all interconnected.
I think L&O is a Dick Wolf Production.
I think Sentinel was a Dick Wolf Production.
Sentinel was about a cop with Extra Sensory Perception, or heightened sensory detection, or super powered senses, and was played by Richard Burgi, who later played one Lt Womack who chases down a Firefly craft with River Tam on it, albeit looking for Pvt Tracey.
L&O was also a star vehicle for Richard Brooks, among others.
I would not be surprised if the writers (Joss being a Writers Guild bigwig) or Studio or Production company has other links to or fans of Firefly.

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:54 AM

AURAPTOR

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Clever catch.

Seems there's a constant " is it, or isn't it " guessing game going on w/ writers and the fans when it comes to shout outs , subtle or not, and favorite tv shows. Many times, there are just phrases which get associated to a show, a character, or what ever, but might not have any intentional reference to anything specific. The term 'heart of gold' comes to mind. Obviously, that's been around for a good while. But fans of Firefly might take such a remark and run w/ it, knowing full well its reference to the episode by the same title, even if there was no specific intent.

If a name like Malcolm Reynolds or Jubal Early comes up, or say , a reference to a universe of only shrimp....then I'd say odds are there's something to it.



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Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:56 AM

MSA


keep in mind the actor who played Jubal Early also played Paul robinette for several seasons on Law and Order....

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:26 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


He was Robinette? I never noticed...have to watch that again. I'm a die-hard L&O fan, all three (but none of the other failed attempts).

I'd have to vote for not a coincidence. As said, the name is too unusual. Writer fan, producer, Wolf or otherwise, it just had to be deliberate.




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Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:28 AM

SUASOR


And he also appeared in Drive, the cancelled series Nathan was starring in last year.

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Just saw this episode last night, I don't think I had ever seen it before.

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Friday, June 3, 2016 3:40 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I'm with Kwicko on this one. Could be the writers are fans and was giving a shout out to Joss and company, as well as to Firefly, in what I like to call an "extra" -
a character or phrase from another show referenced in the current show. Sort of like when Nathan/Castle wore his trademark duster with a gun strapped to his hip.

Writers find ways to sneak those in there.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Had to be on purpose - maybe ABC buddies of Nathan's?


If it was on purpose it wouldn't be due to Firefly/Nathan fans at ABC since L&O is an NBC show.




wo men ren ran zai fei xing.




I kind of envision it as one or two "closet fans" on the writing staff who snuck it in there, kind of as a wink-and-a-nod to the staff at Castle and to Joss, as a bit of an appreciation, and a way of saying, "Hey, we're still thinkin' about y'all!"

In other words, I don't think it was a NETWORK decision, as much as just a small individual decision.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde


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Saturday, June 4, 2016 11:05 PM

JO753

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It will be taken az a disloyalty and the riter will be fired.

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Sunday, June 5, 2016 4:07 AM

COSPLAYWITHCAPTMAL

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Just watching this week's episode of "Law & Order", and I couldn't help noticing the judge's name in the case - Judge Malcolm Reynolds. :) Think that was on purpose, or just a coincidence?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde




Very much on purpose. It's not unusual to have fans of Firefly writing shows or even video games. For example the Uncharted video game series has writers who are huge fans of Firefly and there are a few pretty nice references to the show. Not only does Nathan Drake look almost identical to Fillion but Greg Edmonson (the composer for Firefly) composed all the music to Uncharted. Malcolm Reynolds is not a common everyday name so if I had to put my money on it i'd say it's 100% on purpose and a nod to the show.

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Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:16 AM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It will be taken az a disloyalty and the riter will be fired.



Ah, that explains why Castle ended up sucking so bad.
They had to keep firing the writers.

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