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Zombie Invasion!

POSTED BY: BYTEMITE
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Thursday, March 4, 2010 1:01 PM

BYTEMITE


What do you do?

My plan hinges on the disease/curse only spreading through saliva and blood mixing, and requires peanut butter.

Lots of it.


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Thursday, March 4, 2010 1:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Ruh-Roh. That puts just about everybody at risk. Who doesn't like peanut butter?! :)




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Thursday, March 4, 2010 1:29 PM

BYTEMITE


Triple useful as a food source, an anti-biting defense, and a nutritional oral preventative for people who have been infected and are changing.

Yeah, so what zany ideas do the rest of you have?

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 1:31 PM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
What do you do?

My plan hinges on the disease/curse only spreading through saliva and blood mixing, and requires peanut butter.

Lots of it.




Wait, your plan requires peanut butter or the disease spreading requires peanut butter? Smooth or chunky? Jif or Skippy ?

Whaddya Do Zombie Apocalypse Conundrum:

1. Hunker/Bunker down with gov surplus, freeze dried vitals, or

2. Be mobile, scavenge, and not get boxed in.

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 1:39 PM

BYTEMITE


Extra Creamy. I believe it will increase the stickiness factor, which is all important in preventing zombie bites.

Theoretically, glue could also work, but is not as versatile, because not everyone eats glue.

>_> <_< :) (kidding)

From what I've seen, the people with a working truck/vehicle survive, so long as they don't have sex in the back seat during the crisis.

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 2:02 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Stay mobile. Odd as it sounds, a good 4WD *VAN* is damned handy for this. Lots of DRY storage room inside, the same ruggedness as a 4WD truck, since it's built on the same frame and drivetrain, and you can sleep inside it, safely locked away from the zombie hordes.

4WD van pros: Dry and lockable storage for you and your goodies. Windows to shoot out of. Go-anywhere capabilities. Lots of room.

Cons: Not very nimble, and not very thrifty on fuel.


Alternatively, a SMALL, front-drive car can be a boon. I've taken Honda Civics places where nobody but Jeep drivers and FJ40 owners would go. But you really can't carry much with you, and you really can't sleep in it. And like it or not, everybody's going to need sleep, even if there are zombies about.

Small vehicles pros: long range on not much gas; nimble and quick for getting out of tight fixes.

Cons: Not much room for people or supplies; can't sleep in it.



And now I've gotta lay in a supply of restaurant-size cans of peanut butter into my SHTF (Shit-hits-the-fan) larder and bug-out bags. (And I'm only partially joking).





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Thursday, March 4, 2010 2:15 PM

BYTEMITE


Don't forget vitamin supplements.

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 6:34 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Don't forget vitamin supplements.




Oh, definitely. And you know what EVERYONE forgets when thinking about this kind of stuff? SPICES. Sure, go invest in gold; see how much food that gets ya when society collapses. I'll take a full set of spices (black pepper in the XXL size, please, and don't scrimp on the salt), because someone who can cook whatever's around and make it tasty is going to be able to get along with just about anyone... :)




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Friday, March 5, 2010 12:02 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh indeedy.

Also, toilet paper - I used to have a waterproof bag that'd carry four rolls, and every field deployment I brought three rolls of standard issue and one of the premium stuff, which I would sell to those poor unprepared morons by the square, and even once blackmailed an officer over his preference for the premium roll.


Bonus: while you've still got a lot of it in the waterproof bag, it makes a damn nice pillow.

(which also keeps anyone from stealin it!)

-F

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Friday, March 5, 2010 3:58 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Stay mobile. Odd as it sounds, a good 4WD *VAN* is damned handy for this. Lots of DRY storage room inside, the same ruggedness as a 4WD truck, since it's built on the same frame and drivetrain, and you can sleep inside it, safely locked away from the zombie hordes.

4WD van pros: Dry and lockable storage for you and your goodies. Windows to shoot out of. Go-anywhere capabilities. Lots of room.

Cons: Not very nimble, and not very thrifty on fuel.


Alternatively, a SMALL, front-drive car can be a boon. I've taken Honda Civics places where nobody but Jeep drivers and FJ40 owners would go. But you really can't carry much with you, and you really can't sleep in it. And like it or not, everybody's going to need sleep, even if there are zombies about.

Small vehicles pros: long range on not much gas; nimble and quick for getting out of tight fixes.

Cons: Not much room for people or supplies; can't sleep in it.



And now I've gotta lay in a supply of restaurant-size cans of peanut butter into my SHTF (Shit-hits-the-fan) larder and bug-out bags. (And I'm only partially joking).




Trouble with being mobile is keeping mobile. It might be a good solution in the "early days" when one needs to assess the zombie outbreak proportions, but foraging for fuel and peanut butter can eat up fuel... and peanut butter. It can also get you into the worst trouble, the one you really want to avoid: other humans. Zombies are predictable, mooooaaaannnn, slow-ish, & head shot, and that's about all. People? Mad crazy buggers - you never know what's in their off hand.

I would say you go mobile at first, get a sense of the local dangers plus it helps you look for a place to build from. Survival of the race (we can discuss the pluses and minuses) depend on a stable living situation, agriculture, and procreation. Lots of boinking in fact (yeah, no cars), gotta run up the zombie killer army asap. Sooner we get rid of of the hordes the sooner we can get back to building (notice I don't say "re-building") a better civilization. And then the real work of getting Firefly back on the air starts.

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Friday, March 5, 2010 10:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Way I figure it, staying mobile early on is right. And if I've got it figured right, then early days is the only time to really worry. At least I hope so.

Anyone ever address what the zombies eat when they run out of brains? Do they just naturally waste away and die? Do they just forage forever?

How long do you have to outrun them? All your life, or just 'til they fall over after running out of your slower compadres?

But yeah - stay mobile early on, and be on the lookout for a stable and defensible place - preferably AWAY from any (former) population centers. Top of a mesa might be a good place, if you can get to water and supplies without too much trouble.

Make it harder for zombies to come to you, and they'll likely not bother. And you get the drop on 'em.




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Friday, March 5, 2010 11:36 AM

BYTEMITE


The initial problem with zombie physiology is that they are dead. They can have holes in their digestive system such as that whatever they eat falls out of them before digestion, and even if the food were digested, they have no beating heart or moving blood to move the nutrients around to cells.

Yet despite not having food, and therefore not having fuel for chemical reactions to create ATP which effects the myosin walk which governs muscle contraction, zombies can still walk, albeit stiffly and slowly.

As such, the conclusion is that zombies neither need to eat or breathe. The drive to eat is separate from the need to eat, which zombies lack. The origin of the drive to eat is uncertain, as zombies are brain dead and brain cells can generally be expected to be necrotized. The drive to eat may come from directed behaviour in otherwise dead cells through the zombie virus. The other possibility is a curse, but unfortunately there is no scientific basis to discuss the effect of a curse, even though in a zombie story curses can be real.

The preoccupation with brains is likely an efficient manner to spread the infection/curse by introducing the virus/curse into the victim's systems and by removing and destroying the higher functions of the brain that might attempt resist the effects of the virus or which might result in decisions by the host to damage themselves into uselessness before the virus/curse can take over.

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