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Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

The 2012 presidential election is still a long way away, and Sarah Palin hasn't even decided if she will make a run for the White House, but a second straight poll brings troubling results for the former Alaska governor if she does launch a bid.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll indicates that nearly six in ten Americans say they wouldn't even consider voting for Palin if she runs. Eight percent of the people questioned in the survey, which was released Friday, say they would definitely back Palin in 2012 if she runs and 31 percent say they would consider supporting her.

The 59 percent who flatly rule out Palin is 16 points higher than the 43 percent in the survey who say they wouldn't consider voting to re-elect President Barack Obama in 2012. It's also 17 points higher than the 42 percent of the public who said they wouldn't vote for then Sen. HIllary Clinton in the last presidential election.

The poll also indicates that 27 percent of people voted for the John McCain-Palin ticket in the 2008 election, as well as nearly three in ten Republicans and four in ten conservatives, and four in ten evangelical white Protestants say they wouldn't consider Palin for president.

According to the poll, Obama leads Palin 54 to 39 percent in a hypothetical matchup if the 2012 presidential election were held today.

The ABC News/Washington Post survey comes a day and a half after the release of an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll that indicated Obama leads Palin by 22 points in a hypothetical general election showdown. Obama's advantage over Palin in the two new polls is larger than in other recent surveys.

The NBC/WSJ poll also indicated that Palin's negative rating has climbed to 50 percent, higher than anyone else measured in the poll.

The ABC/Washington Post poll was conducted Dec. 9-12, with 1,001 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/17/poll-six-in-ten-say-th
ey-wont-consider-palin/#more-140149


I say again, Oh, please, DO run her!!!


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Monday, December 20, 2010 1:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Yeah, not a biased poll there.

She's free to run on her own, so it won't be anyone else's choice to 'run' her.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 20, 2010 10:45 AM

ESTEAD


Hi Niki2-
I think you and the article's author are misreading this poll. For his part, given some of his fuzzy language, it seems intentional.

A simple look at the numbers shows Mrs. Palin is gaining substantial ground. The poll states that 73% refused to consider Mrs. Palin as a VP candidate just 2 years ago, and now the number that refuses to consider her a presidential candidate in 2012 is considerably lower at 59%. Nearly a 15 percentage point gain for a higher position. Considering her mid-term successes, it doesn't seem unfathomable to believe she could further change those numbers over the next year. Especially since congress still isn't listening to the people.

Thank you.


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Monday, December 20, 2010 10:58 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by estead:
A simple look at the numbers shows Mrs. Palin is gaining substantial ground.


A big part of Palin's surge is due to the overall surge of Conservative Reagan Republican values that she represents. Mike Huckabee has seen a similar surge.

Another factor is her grass roots campaigning which has been nonstop since she left the Alaska governor's office. I remind you such support is a lagging indicator in national polls (as evidenced by Dewey's landslide defeat of Harry Truman in 1948).

Some people like to point out her TV as a weakness. I've watched her show and it is nothing of the sort. The show displays an intellegent and capable woman and mother, her amazingly average family, their work ethic, and wraps the whole thing up in Alaskan wilderness beauty. I suggest that folks who dislike Palin wont like the show and wont watch it. If the average American sees it, regardless of Palin's politics they wont come away with it with anything less then a more positive feeling about Sarah Palin (and Alaska).

All that said, I don't think Palin is a good fit for the run for President. I note I would vote for her over any other candidate, but if asked I will advise her to seek another path such as Chairperson of the GOP, Alaska Senator, or just a kind of kingmaker/'party elder' any of which might give her an opening anytime over the next 3 or 4 Presidential election cycles.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Monday, December 20, 2010 12:27 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, not a biased poll there.

She's free to run on her own, so it won't be anyone else's choice to 'run' her.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "




AURapt, you have to understand she is a one party cheerleader....she sees the GOP as the only op to her libs (despite her Jon stewart get together)...she has no clue about the conservative anti-establishment republican party....that all conservatives will vote for...ya know tea party types.Her dems have nothing like it and is why they try to make the tea party types "extreme"...she is well aware that Sarah steals women and old men from the dems...leaving them with niggers and EIC tax filers...I like sarah's chances....especially against Obama.


Well, it's true........

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Monday, December 20, 2010 1:06 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
A big part of Palin's surge is due to the overall surge of Conservative Reagan Republican values that she represents.


Yeah, like stupidity, hypocrisy, incompetence, lack ability to form coherent sentences without assistance, bloodthirst, rabid support for "allies" who stick it to us every chance they get, a severe lack of respect for the constitution and any principle based on freedom while espousing a desire for tyranny and oppression...

Yep, Conservative "values" indeed, only to some, those are VICES.

Still, I don't care much for the Democrats neither, but when one makes it clear and bloody obvious they *want* to make this country into an authoritarian fascist dictatorship, how the HELL can they expect anything but grief from someone who swore an Oath to uphold and defend Constitutional Principles, I ask you ?

When an entire political party shows blatant and unadulterated contempt for those principles, how can I not consider them an enemy "foreign or domestic" then ?

And yeah verily, I hold Obama to that shit too, for he's violated the hell out of himself, but be damned if imma respond to someone exploiting abuses and usurpations by tossing control back to the fuckers who committed them in the first place.

Fuck that noise.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


As to polls, they have consistently shown her lack of support, whatever the source of the poll:

2008:
Quote:

A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds: 39% say she is ready to serve as president if needed, 33% say she isn't, and 29% have no opinion. That's the lowest vote of confidence in a running mate since the elder George Bush chose then-Indiana senator Dan Quayle to join his ticket in 1988. In comparison, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden was seen as qualified by 57%-18% after Democrat Barack Obama chose him as a running mate last week.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-30-palin-po
ll_N.htm


2009:
Quote:

Palin’s 23 percent favorability rating in Monday’s CBS News poll is nearly identical to the 24 percent favorability rating she registered in mid-July, soon after she announced that she would step down from her post as governor of Alaska. Palin received a 38 percent unfavorable rating in the CBS poll released this week.

A Washington Post-ABC News poll released Monday showed that Palin is viewed favorably by only 43 percent with 52 percent holding an unfavorable view of the former governor. Fifty-three percent in the poll said they “definitely would not” vote for Palin if she ran in 2012 and 60 percent she is not qualified to serve as president.

In a CNN/Opinion Research poll also released Monday, only 28 percent of those poll said Palin is qualified to be president. But among Republicans, 54 percent said Palin is qualified to be president.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29643.html

February 2010:
Quote:

Sarah Palin has upped her national profile in recent weeks, but a new poll shows that the extra attention hasn't done her any favors. In the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, the amount of people with a favorable view of Palin has dropped to its lowest point ever recorded by the pollster. More than 70% of respondents said she's not qualified to be president.

Palin's numbers don't improve much when just Republicans are asked to give their opinion of her, the poll found. The Post reports just 45% of conservatives consider Palin qualified to move into the Oval Office. Last November, 66% of conservatives said she was qualified.

Only 37 percent of Republicans have a "strongly favorable" view of Palin. Among all Americans, her overall favorable/unfavorable split is 37/55, the lowest it's been since ABC and the Post added her to national polls in Sept. 2008, when John McCain made Palin his running mate on the GOP ticket.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/palins-poll-numbers-hit-his
toric-lows-even-among-gopers.php


Poll at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_021010.ht
ml?sid=ST2010021100035


April 2010:
Quote:

Ms Palin's unfavorables are much higher than those for any of the Democratic candidates in 2006. Hillary Clinton, whose 40% unfavorable rating was deemed by many at the time to render her candidacy moot, had a favourable/unfavourable margin of +9%; Ms Palin's is -9%. The only potential Republican presidential candidate more unpopular than Ms Palin would appear to be Jeb Bush, who no doubt has his brother to thank.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/04/sarah_palin_
0


Poll graphic at:

July 2010:
Quote:

The figures are in and it reads: Sarah Palin Not So Popular At The Polls. Her own party backs her but even 20% of those see her as unfavorable. In a general election she will not fare so well. Back in 2008, the independent and swing voters did not back her and will not in the next election. More Americans view her in a negative light (47 percent) than a positive one (44 percent). What's more, only nine percent of Americans haven't formed an opinion of the former Alaska governor, making it difficult for her to correct that deficit.
http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/2010/07/16/sarah-palin-not-so-popular
-at-the-polls
/

November 2010:
Quote:

In a new Quinnipiac poll of GOP 2012 front-runners, Palin would lose a head-to-head matchup with Obama, if it were held today.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/1122/Poll-Sarah-Pa
lin-can-t-beat-Obama.-But-Mitt-Romney-can


Poll at: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1538&What=&strArea=;&str
Time=0


November 2010:
Quote:

The latest poll numbers for Sarah Palin show that her fans are conservative men, and women of all stripes despise her.

The key stat in the Sarah Palin poll numbers is that 74% of all US women – including 50% of Republican women – think Palin isn’t qualified to be president.

In addition, 66% of all men and 40% of GOP males think Palin isn’t qualified to be President either.

http://a11news.com/2575/sarah-palin-poll-numbers/

December 2010:
Quote:

A Wall Street Journal-NBC poll finds that Palin would lose a hypothetical presidential election against Obama by 33 to 55 percent. Even after Palin's already rough year of polling, pundits are treating these two new batches as exceptional: nails in the coffin of her 2012 presidential hopes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/atlantic/20101217/cm_atlantic/aspalintanksinpo
llsarepresidentialhopesover6244


Poll at http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/WSJpoll121510.pdf

That’s just a sampling, but it shows a pretty consistent picture that Sarah Palin wouldn’t be a good candidate in 2010. The Republican and Tea Party base love her (to a degree), but the general public doesn’t buy her. Ironically, that means she would have at least a decent chance of winning the NOMINATION but virtually none of winning the general.

I keep hoping she’ll run...



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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