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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:15 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sickening. I was really hoping Jerry would be able to overcome the current insanity, but in the end even he caved, and many of us will pay for it.
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Conceding defeat on his tax extension proposal, California Governor Jerry Brown unveiled a budget Monday that imposes deep spending cuts.

The plan, cobbled together with Democratic legislative leaders, calls for a total of $14.6 billion in cuts. Much of the bloodletting was agreed to in March, but this week's deal would add at least $2.5 billion in additional reductions.

Overall the Department of Health and Human Services would be slashed by $5 billion, while the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation would see a cut of $1 billion. The state's two university systems would each lose $650 million in funding.

If tax revenue comes in lower than expected, the budget also would impose an additional $2.6 billion in cuts to higher education, corrections and in-home support services for the elderly and disabled.

The proposal would slash billions in spending for children, the sick, and the elderly, said Senate President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg. And it would hurt the state's economy, he said.

"This budget is the most austere fiscal blueprint California has seen in a generation," Steinberg said.

Since the budget does not call for tax increases, it requires only a majority of the Democratic-led legislature to approve it. However, Governor Brown and his fellow Democrats said they plan to put a tax measure on the ballot in November 2012 through a voter initiative -- bypassing the requirement for Republican consent.

Though they fended off Brown's tax extensions, Republicans immediately attacked the proposal, saying California needs a budget that will revitalize the economy and create jobs.

The proposal is a major shift for Brown, who has said for months that the state's $26 billion budget's gap should be addressed with a mix of spending cuts and tax extensions. He also was determined to fulfill his pledge to put the extension of personal income and sales taxes before the voters.

However, he could not convince four Republicans to join him so he could get the measure on the ballot. A budget containing a tax hike needs the support of two-thirds of lawmakers.

Republicans have refused to go along unless the budget also contained a spending cap, as well as pension and regulatory reform.

The latest proposal was put together less than two weeks after Brown vetoed a budget approved by the legislature, saying it was chock full of gimmicks and contained legally questionable maneuvers.

Lawmakers had raced to pass a spending plan by June 15 to meet a voter-imposed deadline that required the legislature to pass a balanced budget or forfeit their pay.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/27/news/economy/california_budget/index.h
tm?hpt=hp_bn4


Sickening. There's that required two-thirds majority, Prop 13 and budget deadline creating a situation where Republicans can hold us hostage once again. Makes me want to spit. By "revitalize the economy and create jobs" they of course mean "more tax cuts for the rich and corporations" , as is happening everywhere, and personally I think it's a recipe for disaster. Republicans:

The only sliver of hope is "they plan to put a tax measure on the ballot in November 2012 through a voter initiative -- bypassing the requirement for Republican consent". I hope they do, because I'm betting Californians will vote overwhelmingly to raise taxes; you can't solve the state's or the country's problems merely by slashing programs that help the PEOPLE.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:20 AM

BYTEMITE


What would you cut? Just asking.

Health and Human Services is an ouch, though the other two...

I mean, if you legalize marijuana, just how much money for the prisons and "rehabilitation" do you guys need, anyway?

You should totally rally around that. :D

As for colleges... Students are poor, but they also can apparently can afford going to college.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:30 AM

NIKI2

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I'm sure there's plenty of crap in California's government that could legitimately be cut, there is in any budget. I only know that, as is happening everywhere, the right is cutting safety nets wherever they can, refuses to even consider tax increases, and is, in my opinion, harming our state and our country.

And regulatory reform? I know the line "free market is constrained by regulation", and in some cases certainly that's true. But the right would have NO regulation if they had their way, and that would leave us open to many bad things.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:38 AM

BYTEMITE


...I didn't say anything about regulation reform.

...Am I getting caught in some cross wind between left and right again? Because I dislike it when people see things in my posts that aren't there. Here, and by SkyDiveLife on the Rain thread.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:58 AM

NIKI2

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The $1.4-billion in budget cuts proposed this week for California's public colleges could prompt a new year of protests that decry higher tuition, stagnant employee salaries, and the growing inability of Californians to afford college.

But as a barrier to student access, rising tuition may ultimately pale in comparison with a more fundamental shift: The state's colleges have started to shrink.

California's public-college enrollment declined by 165,000 during the past academic year, even as the number of people trying to get into college grew. Community colleges accounted for most of the decline, the largest in a single year since 1993.

The combination of a growing college-age population and a reduced budget has turned what was once a model for college access into a much scarcer commodity. California State University at Long Beach, which has lost more students than most colleges, enrolled only 9 percent of applicants last fall.

http://chronicle.com/article/Facing-New-Cuts-Californias/125945/
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Six domestic violence shelters in California have been forced to close while dozens more are scaling back services after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger eliminated all state funding for the program that supports them.

Shelters in the Central Valley town of Madera, the Sierra foothill town of Grass Valley and in Ventura County in Southern California have closed. Others in the San Francisco Bay area, Los Angeles and Bakersfield are on the verge of closing.

Many centers are laying off staff and closing satellite offices that serve remote areas of the state as they cope with the budget cuts. A national domestic violence group describes California's as the deepest cuts to such programs nationwide, even as other states have reduced funding.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53692

Our education system used to be one of the best in the world. Now? Republicans are quite happy to slash and burn it into oblivion.
Quote:

Gang violence is the topic of debate, and the worry, in Sacramento on Friday. The ongoing budget crisis means that law enforcement is making cuts that many are afraid will translate directly into crime on the streets.

Crime victim groups worry the budget cuts are just the beginning of more gang-involved incidents.

"We should be outraged that our safety is going to be jeopardized because the state needs to save a buck," said Christine Ward with Crime Victims Action Alliance.

Democrats say they want to keep the temporary tax hikes going to avoid more cuts to public safety, while Republicans say they want cuts to come from somewhere else to keep public safety funded.

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/politics&id=8213901

I don't know where they think this magical "somewhere else" is, but obviously they don't give a shit about public safety.
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The California budget included $12.5 billion in spending cuts, with a 10 percent cut in take-home pay for some state employees and deep reductions in social services.

In terms of sheer dollars, the steepest cuts affect the most vulnerable in the state, including a $1.7 billion cut to Medi-Cal, the state’s health insurance program for poor families and disabled people; a $1.5 billion reduction in its welfare-to-work program; and $750 million cut from the agency that provides services to those with developmental disabilities.

The cost of health care was the focus of several hundred protesters who gathered on the Capitol steps after Mr. Brown’s announcement, demanding that the state adopt a single-payer health system. Inside, a group of advocates in wheelchairs also criticized a steep reduction in financing for in-home care.

“Some people are going to lose their lives on this,” said Greg Thompson, executive director of the Personal Assistance Services Council of Los Angeles County, which has some 185,000 people receiving in-home care. Mr. Thompson uses a wheelchair because of a spinal cord injury.

Under Mr. Brown’s plan, a raft of state functions — like fire and emergency response, court security, and housing for low-level criminals and oversight of adult parolees, among others — would become local or county responsibilities. The proposal was met with guarded support by county officials.

Realignment can only succeed if there are stable revenues to fund the new responsibilities being handed to counties,” said John Tavaglione, the president of the California State Association of Counties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/us/11california.html

As usual, it's the safety nets they want to do away with, in favor of keeping tax cuts for the rich.

You really think these are the answer? Don't tax the rich, instead put the entire burden on those who already can't afford it, and the cities, which are already suffering. But hey, they can't afford lobbyists and can't contribute tons of money to campaigns, so why not? This is what's happening nationwide, the passing of the buck; the national and state governments are divesting their responsibilities and passing them on to the cities and counties, which are even less able to foot the bill in this economy.

I have no DOUBT there are places we could cut the budget without dumping it all on these programs. But they're the ones the right wants to go after. You know, the old "I've got mine; fuck you!"


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:02 AM

SKYDIVELIFE


Never understood the idea that I have to give up what I've earned so you, (who have never earned) can have a better life.

Or, I have to give up mine so you (who have made poor life choices) can be "equal" to me.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:23 AM

NIKI2

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Okay, I'll answer your question specifically: What would I cut, rather than what they are cutting? A quick glance through our budget shows just a few:
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DIVISION OF APPRENTICESHIP STANDARDS

The objectives of this program are to promote, develop, and expand on-the-job training and apprenticeship programs and to provide consultation services to program sponsors.

PAROLE OPERATIONS - ADULT COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAMS

Parole Operations - Adult Community Based Programs utilizes a variety of rehabilitation and assistance programs designed to promote successful reintegration of parolees, while protecting public safety. These programs include, but are not limited to, Drug Treatment, Transitional Housing for Parolees, Parolee Services Centers, and Police and Corrections Teams. The Program also includes a full continuum of transitional programs, including evidence-based substance abuse treatment, preparation for inmates released on parole, and community-based continuing care upon parole. Parolees who did not receive in-prison treatment are also eligible for community-based residential and outpatient treatment.

Arts Council

The California Arts Council consists of eleven members, nine appointed by the Governor and one appointed by the President pro Tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the Assembly. The Council establishes general policy and approves program allocations


ADULT EDUCATION, VOCATION, AND OFFENDER PROGRAMS - ADULT INMATE ACTIVITES

The Adult Education, Vocation, and Offender Programs - Adult Inmate Activities provides inmates with activities and programs such as the canteen, photo project and handicraft. These programs allow inmates to productively participate in activities while incarcerated. For inmates, these programs create a sense of accomplishment and provide inmates an opportunity for employment while incarcerated.

Commission on the Status of Women

The Commission on the Status of Women is an independent, non-partisan agency working to advance the causes of women. Toward that end, the Commission influences public policy by advising the Governor and the Legislature on issues impacting women and educating and informing its constituencies-thereby providing opportunities that empower women and girls to make their maximum contribution to society
BOARD OF PAROLE HEARINGS - ADMINISTRATION

The Board of Parole Hearings - Administration handles administrative duties in support of the Board's headquarters and field operations. The Administration is comprised of the Executive team; the Administrative Services Division, which handles the business services functions for the Board; and the Workforce Development Unit tasked with ensuring compliance with the numerous court mandates affecting parole and hearing processes.

BOARD OF BARBERING AND COSMETOLOGY

The Board of Barbering and Cosmetology licenses barbers, cosmetologists, electrologists, estheticians, and manicurists after determining, through an examination, that applicants possess the minimum skills and qualifications necessary to provide safe and effective services to the public.

ACUPUNCTURE BOARD

The Acupuncture Board licenses and regulates individuals practicing acupuncture pursuant to the Acupuncture Licensure Act. Acupuncture is a theory and method for treatment of illness and disability and for strengthening and invigorating the body.

All probably worthy programs, but compared to what they ARE cutting?

How about duplication?
Quote:

Department of Consumer Affairs, Bureaus

The Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) is responsible for promoting and protecting the interests of millions of California consumers by serving as a guardian and advocate for their health, safety, and economic well-being and by promoting legal and ethical standards of professional conduct

Department of Consumer Affairs, Boards

The Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) is responsible for promoting and protecting the interests of millions of California consumers by serving as a guardian and advocate for their health, safety, and economic well-being and by promoting legal and ethical standards of professional conduct

and
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Department of Fair Employment & Housing

The Department of Fair Employment and Housing is responsible for protecting the people of California from unlawful discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations, and from the perpetration of acts of hate violence.

Fair Employment & Housing Commission

The Fair Employment and Housing Commission is a quasi-judicial body responsible for the promotion and enforcement of the state's civil rights laws concerning discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations; family, medical, and pregnancy disability leave; hate violence, and threats of violence

EACH of those two are individual agencies with employees, etc.m it's not that one is under the other. Both exist supposedly independently of the other. Why do we need both?

That's just a quick sampling, there are TONS more if I cared to look through the entire budget. We have some lovely, forward-looking programs in California, but until we are back on our feet, I think what they ARE cutting is more valuable than much of what I saw in the budget.

The budget itself is at http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/agencies.html --they call it the "Governor's Budget", but it's not, it's what the LEGISLATURE decided on, and you can be sure there is stuff in there that individual legislators want to save at the expense of something else..




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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:27 AM

NIKI2

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Byte, you didn't say anything about regulation reform, I was quoting from the article: "Republicans have refused to go along unless the budget also contained a spending cap, as well as pension and regulatory reform." In other words, the Republicans won't accept the budget unless it includes regulatory reform...which in their book always means "less regulation". That was my point.

I don't know about cross-winds, as you and I are the only ones posting in this thread. As for Sky in the other thread, he seemed to be just determined to snark, whatever WE wrote. I think it's a stupid thing to do and said so, it has nothing to do with YOU.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:35 AM

NIKI2

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I see he's continuing it here. What he has to say is nothing but a snark, and in no way adresses the actual issues:
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Never understood the idea that I have to give up what I've earned so you, (who have never earned) can have a better life.

Or, I have to give up mine so you (who have made poor life choices) can be "equal" to me.

Totally ignoring the fact that I EARNED and worked my entire life for thirty years (thereby PAYING INTO the system), and that by far THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE receiving assistance work, as well as the fact that "poor life choices" really has nothing to do with it for the majority of people who suffer from having been laid off in a high-unemployment economy. There's also the fact that cutting education has nothing to do with EITHER, nor does public safety.

Why don't you go play with yourself, Sky, you're not making sense and your remarks aren't valid. I notice a remarkable absence by Wulf and Raptor; are you one of their sickpuppies, or are they just leaving you to do their job? Because you sound exactly like them: snarking by assuming anyone getting ANYTHING from the government has never earned and/or has made bad life choices. It's stupid.

And I need to stop paying any attention to him, before he really gets my goat. Which, of course, is his purpose.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:41 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDiveLife:
Never understood the idea that I have to give up what I've earned so you, (who have never earned) can have a better life.

Or, I have to give up mine so you (who have made poor life choices) can be "equal" to me.




I mean, I'd prefer voluntary systems of welfare and charity myself, and I give to both out of my paycheck. But you're talking about accident victims with spinal chord injuries there as "poor life choices" and "lazy" to paraphrase.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:44 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

I don't know about cross-winds, as you and I are the only ones posting in this thread.


Yeah, okay. It was just getting a little frustrating.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:46 AM

NIKI2

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He's playing games, both here and in the other thread. He obviously has no desire to actually communicate. Boy, do I understand about "frustrating"; you'll get used to that after some time here, it's pretty common. Just ignore him; responding just gives him the attention he apparently craves and encourages him.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:50 AM

SKYDIVELIFE


Niki2 wrote: "Why don't you go play with yourself, Sky, you're not making sense and your remarks aren't valid. I notice a remarkable absence by Wulf and Raptor; are you one of their sickpuppies, or are they just leaving you to do their job? Because you sound exactly like them: snarking by assuming anyone getting ANYTHING from the government has never earned and/or has made bad life choices. It's stupid."

I don't really understand your resentment to my comments. IF you've earned what is yours, and havn't used the system to take from other people, then you might have a grievance.

"people who suffer from having been laid off in a high-unemployment economy."

Well, there is "high un-employment" because the COST of hiring people is so high. What with the protection of lawyers against lawsuits, and the cost of ObamaCare...most companies cannot afford to hire more people. Then, you have to make sure your workplace is diverse..

Add to the fact that most laid-off workers can make 1/2 of what they were earning on un-employment and noone is hiring or even looking for a job.

"And I need to stop paying any attention to him, before he really gets my goat. Which, of course, is his purpose."

Im not trying to get your goat. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your arguments. If showing you how foolish some of your opinions are is "getting your goat"... well, thats on you and not on me.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:55 AM

BYTEMITE


Hmm, I like your proposed cuts. Especially the ones about the inmates and rehabilitation: as I said, if you took drug convictions out of it, the cost for those programs would go WAY down.

Not sure about your consumer council but yeeelch, they're cutting a housing commission? I've heard HORROR stories about housing expenses in California.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:58 AM

BYTEMITE


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Add to the fact that most laid-off workers can make 1/2 of what they were earning on un-employment and noone is hiring or even looking for a job.


Wow. Their wages musta been crap. I can see how that could be though, if you're talking minimum wage. It'd make sense, and they're most likely to loose their jobs anyway.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:05 AM

NIKI2

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Okay, one last response, then I'm OUTTA HERE!
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Well, there is "high un-employment" because the COST of hiring people is so high. What with the protection of lawyers against lawsuits, and the cost of ObamaCare...most companies cannot afford to hire more people. Then, you have to make sure your workplace is diverse..

Add to the fact that most laid-off workers can make 1/2 of what they were earning on un-employment and noone is hiring or even looking for a job.

Bull-fucking-SHIT! The first paragraph is nothing but parotted talking points. What you call "ObamaCare" hasn't even gone into EFFECT yet, and lawyers and lawsuits have nothing to do with the cost of hiring workers. The second is just plain biased crap; MANY people are out there looking for work, taking odd jobs like mowing LAWNS to have something, taking temp jobs, jobs way below their abilities, doing anything they can to not lose their homes, to feed their families and make it through. I know some of them, and they spend five days of every week interviewing and looking for work.

You write nothing but right-wing rhetoric gibberish which makes generalities not even TRUE, much less representative of the majority. You're starting to get my goat because of the stupidity of your remarks, since they are nothing but parrotted FoxNews-type idiocy and in no way address the subject at hand. If you had made ANY attempt to discuss the actual issue, it might be different. End of story.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:11 AM

NIKI2

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No, Byte, the Housing Commission is one of the things I would cut--given it's duplicative. Housing in CA is expensive, absolutely, but i don't think we need TWO agencies dealing with it (and there are sub-agencies under EACH, by the way). If you read the description of them, you'll see they supposedly do almost exactly the same things, as do the two above them. While I think protection against discrimination, etc., is a good thing (and they don't even do a good job of THAT, from my experince), I think at this time, in this economy, there are more important things to keep than duplicative agencies, each with their own employees.

Those agencies don't deal with the high cost of housing anyway, if you read their blurbs. There's no "agency" to deal with housing prices, those are supposedly "self-regulating" and anyone can ask for any price at any time. The market drives that, I don't think there's ANY government interference in the housing market.


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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:19 AM

BYTEMITE


Ah. Well, then, yes, those too.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:23 AM

AURAPTOR

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Maybe there's hope for California still, but I'm not bettin' on it just yet.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDiveLife:
Never understood the idea that I have to give up what I've earned so you, (who have never earned) can have a better life.

Or, I have to give up mine so you (who have made poor life choices) can be "equal" to me.





Yup, never understood why I should give up what I've earned so those leeches in the military can sponge off me, when they've done nothing to make anyone's life better.

On that, we're in complete agreement. After all, joining the military IS a very poor life choice, and I don't support such bad choices.

Glad you're on my side on that. ;)

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:19 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Niki, I agree with you on eliminating duplicate programs, those descriptions sound similar. I think we could consolidate those several parole programs and make it so one or two of them do all of that, thereby saving money. I think I wouldn't mind cutting, or greatly reducing, the women's program. In my city at least I've never heard anyone complain in recent years of not being treated fairly because they are a woman working. Now I'm not saying it _never happens, but in my experience its very limited and we are looking for things to cut, so I'd cut that since there are probably fair employment programs that cover other groups so we can have them cover any womens concerns too perhaps if needed. Other than that most of that sounded important in its own way. The arts council's description sounded rather vague, that may bear some consideration for cutting/consolidating with another arts program, because the arts are important, but there doesn't need to be unnecessary duplications.
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if I, or some random person, looked at the budget and decided what should happen, how much better or worse it would be than how the government does it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:56 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup, never understood why I should give up what I've earned so those leeches in the military can sponge off me, when they've done nothing to make anyone's life better.

On that, we're in complete agreement. After all, joining the military IS a very poor life choice, and I don't support such bad choices.


Ooooooo.
Oh noes, sacrelige! /snark.
And me bein me, imma throw a topper on it, cause sacred cows make excellent cheeseburgers.

You wanna talk about entitlement attitudes, where do these jackboots get off thinkin I owe them a goddamn thing when over the last 65 years they've prettymuch fought *against* freedom, rather than for it - at least so far as folks who elect governments we don't like or throw down our fascist-friendly puppet dictators.

That whole notion that they protect our freedoms is laughable when we've got a substantial chunk of the Dirty 3rd stationed right here on active duty aimed at US, should we dare excercise them a little too much or too strongly, and lip service aside, they'd just as quick stomp on us when the order came as anyone else.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/end-game-would-us-policetroops-fire-u
pon-us-citizens


You don't *defend* freedom by taking a flamethrower to it.

But I have a plan, don't you know....



The horrible part is that would probably WORK.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:59 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Riona, my point was that, in these times, there are tons of even GOOD programs that should be cut--at least until the economy gets back on its feet--RATHER than cuts to education, social services, etc. I'm all in favor of keeping art and helping inmates and so forth (and those were just after a casual search), but not when there are much more important things that ARE being cut, know what I mean?

And yes, I happen to agree about the womens' programs, I think maybe they've outlived their usefulness. I'm not blind to the fact that many jobs would be lost by cutting ANYTHING, but it's also true that, once begun, a commission, board, agency is rarely ended. It's the way of bureaucracy, eh?


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