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Anyone wanna take bets on Wisconsin recalls?
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 12:45 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Joe Heim, a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin-LaCrosse, said Democrats appear to have more enthusiasm but it's a tossup at this point. "It looks right now like two seats are leaning Democratic and two are in the tossup category," he said. "Two of the races were leaning Republican up until this week, which seems to be picking up a trend that the Democrats may do better than expected." More at http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wisconsin-recall-vote-embolden-dems-limit-gop-cost/story?id=14256641
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 12:53 PM
Quote:The Government Accounting Board (GAB), apparently changing their regulations as they go along, has effectively shut down citizen-run exit polls in today’s Democratic Primary Recall Election in Wisconsin. Despite having the GAB Regulations (§§5.35 (5), 7.37 (2) ) in hand plus a letter from Kevin Kennedy, head of the GAB, both clearly allowing exit polling, the GAB today, through GAB member David Buerger, has said that the group is “electioneering” because candidates names appear on the polling “ballot.” He further dictated that no voter would be allowed to touch an exit poll ballot, that pollsters can only verbally ask the voters their responses. This despite the fact that Edison-Mitofsky, the polling company commissioned by the Media Consortium to conduct Exit Polling nationally over the last many years, uses written polling ballots that the voters fill in themselves. The polls were being run by concerned Wisconsin citizens volunteering under the guidance of Election Defense Alliance and Protect California Ballots, two non-partisan organizations with the mission of restoring transparency to our elections. Both organizations have run non-partisan exit polls many times in the past in close to a dozen states. Neither group has ever been harassed in such a way before. “This is reasoning beyond specious”, said Jonathan Simon, Director of Election Defense Alliance. “Exit polling in this country has been going on for decades. To call it ‘electioneering’ simply because candidates names appear on the poll ballot, when all names appear without any advocacy involved, is absurd. This is concealment in OUR elections. Public participation is being forbidden!” “If exit polling has now conveniently been relabeled as ‘electioneering’ this spells the end of exit polling in America and one of the last few mechanisms for evaluating the legitimacy of official vote counts,” added Sally Castleman, National Chairperson of Election Defense Alliance. “The implications for upcoming primary and general recall elections are of the utmost importance” said Simon. “This encroachment on the public right of observation and participation must be challenged forcefully and immediately.” “The irony of ‘Government Accountability’ is beyond belief,” Simon added. Voters leaving the polling station in Menominee Falls were reporting to the pollsters that they were not being allowed to vote without photo ID. When one of the volunteers tried to explain that the law says a photo ID is REQUESTED but not REQUIRED for this election, the Village Clerk reprimanded her for “interfering.” In another related story, robo-calls, reportedly coming from Virginia, are being made to Democrats throughout the primary districts today telling them not to vote today because an absentee ballot is in the mail. http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/07/wisconsin-gab-shuts-down-citizen-exit-polls-in-todays-recall-elections/ WONDER I can't get any info on exit polls!
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 4:22 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 4:42 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 7:06 PM
Quote:"The race to determine control of the Wisconsin Senate has fallen in the hands of the Waukesha County clerk, who has already distinguished herself as incompetent, if not worse. She is once more tampering with the results of a consequential election and in the next hours we will determine our next course of action. For now, Wisconsin should know that a dark cloud hangs over these important results."
Quote:Recall Elections: Waukesha County Suspiciously Witholding Election Results Ed Schultz on MSNBC is reporting that Waukesha County has told reporters that they are withholding their election results until tomorrow. Waukesha County is part of the heated district race between Sandy Pasch and Alberta Darling. John Nichols told Ed that there is no reason for such a delay and that Waukesha County should be able to report as quickly as everyone else. You may remember Waukesha County and Kathy Nicholaus who just happened to lose and then later find enough votes to give the election to the Republican-backed David Prosser in the April Wisconsin Supreme Court race. This BS was supposed to be resolved after that election, but apparently Wisconsin and the GAB are happy to have a flaky and untrustworthy County Clerk in Kathy Nicholaus. State Senator Jon Erpenbach told Rachel Maddow tonight that "Waukesha County should have been one of the first counties reporting" and is now an issue. Ed said that several sources have told him this may lead to an investigation to protect the integrity of our elections, and I hope it does. Ed also reported that Democrat Chair Mike Tate has issued a statement saying that Kathy Nicholaus "is tampering with our elections," and they will plan their response in the next hour.
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:13 AM
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Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:21 AM
Quote:The Democrats need to win 3 of 6 GOP seats in the recall elections to gain control of the Wisconsin senate. Assuming the Wisconsin 2008 presidential election.... 1) recorded vote shares and election fraud (expected) in the recall elections, the Democrats will win 1 or 2 GOP seats. 2) recorded vote shares and zero election fraud in the recalls, the Democrats will likely win 3 GOP seats. 3) True Vote shares and zero fraud in the recalls, the Democrats would likely win 6 GOP seats. http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=1713869 much says it all. As to the Dems pulling back; hey, we all know Democratic politicians are total wooses...if they weren't, we wouldn't be in the state we are NOW, would we?
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