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Ohhh My.....God?
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:26 PM
WISHIMAY
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:44 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:56 PM
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:03 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:25 PM
DREAMTROVE
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:21 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:26 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:50 PM
MAL4PREZ
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Oh, what, you missed the numerous "lists" going around already? Terrorism watchlist, etc. We're already there. We've been there for a while.
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:26 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:40 AM
Quote:The title says it all. They are comparing atheists to child molesters, and saying they need to be monitored.Quote:Brothers and Sisters , I have been seriously considering forming a ( Christian ) grassroots type of organization to be named "The Christian National Registry of Atheists" or something similar . I mean , think about it . There are already National Registrys for convicted sex offenders , ex-convicts , terrorist cells , hate groups like the KKK , skinheads , radical Islamists , etc.. This type of "National Registry" would merely be for information purposes . To inform the public of KNOWN ( i.e., self-admitted) atheists .That's right atheists are like sex offenders, terrorists, and the KKK. I don't really have anything clever to say about it. It is just flat out revolting.Quote:Now , many (especially the atheists ) , may ask "Why do this , what's the purpose ?" Duhhh , Mr. Atheist , for the same purpose many States put the names and photos of convicted sex offenders and other ex-felons on the I-Net - to INFORM the public !To inform the public? Why exactly? Well, to harass atheists, of course:Quote:My family and I would sure like to know how many of those 109,000 are ADMITTED atheists ! Perhaps we may actually know some . In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism . Or perhaps they are radical atheists , whose hearts are as hard as Pharaoh's , in that case , if they are business owners , we would encourage all our Christian friends , as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be "feeding" Satan .In other words, they want a list of all the atheists in their area so that they can harass them with right wing religious propaganda or worse yet, do them financial harm. And they can't possibly see why atheists would be bothered by such harassment and financial extortion. Why, the only reason an atheist would be against being listed on such a registry is because they would be ashamed of their "atheist religion." This is another form of eliminationism, wherein you eliminate the group you hate through intimidation, harassment, and economic blacklisting. I am not an atheist. I am a Christian. And I don't think you have to be an atheist to get chills down your spine to know that there are so-called "Christians" who think like this. To think that these people consider themselves of the same faith I follow, and would still think to harm thy neighbor with harassment and economic extortion simply because they don't believe the same things is chilling. 8:53 AM PT: Thanks for the Rec list, folks. 8:58 AM PT: I am going to give a Hat Tip to my friend at a message board I frequent for bringing this to my attention. She goes by the username Raven there. Update: some have commented below that this man only has a small following, and suggest that I've overblown the threat. My response to that is that Westboro Baptist Church only has a small following. Should we ignore them? You can believe this: with the growing extremism on the right this idea will eventually catch on with the Dominionist, sure as a wacko like Michele Bachmann caught on with the right. I believe our job here is to note these threats, and begin developing a serious response so we won't be caught off guard when these ideas make it to "mainstream" dominionism. A lot of comparisons to what the Nazi's did to Jews in the comments. Those comparisons are accurate, but for a chilling contemporary analogy, entlord in the comments suggests the comparison to lists of abortion doctors that the religious right fanatics have passed around. This is the most apt comparison because this is the way the contemporary religious right operates. They make these lists as a means of harassment with the ultimate hope of encouraging their violent followers to take matters in their own hands. Make no mistake about it, this is not merely about discovering a chance to proselytize, and it's not merely about economic black-listing and extortion, this is about the dreams of more right wing violence. And now, Even Crazier Stuff from i like bbq in the comments:Quote:The arrogance displayed by the evolutionist class is totally unwarrented. The facts warrent the violent expulsion of all evolutionists from civilized society. I am quite serious that their danger to society is so great that, in a sane society, they would be, at a minimum, denied a vote in the administration of the society, as well as any job where they might influence immature humans, e.g., scout, or youth, leader, teacher and, obviously, professor. Oh, by the way… What is the chance evolutionists will vote or teach in the Kingdom of God? ~ Tom Willis, Creation Science Association.That takes the cake in violent eliminationist rhetoric. Willis doesn't even try to dress up his rhetoric in code language. It is absolutely vile. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/28/1011322/-Christian-fanatics-want-national-registry-of-atheists-%7C-Update:-Even-Crazier-Stuff only one man (currently), and it IS DailyKos, so those things need to be taken into account. But, "In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism" oh gawd help me; I've been the target of that from everything but Mormons to so-called "Christians". To go through it again...jezus, please NO! Aside from which, they'd have to make a list of all buddhists, since we have no "god". Nonetheless, I think it's a scary thought and a perfect example of ultra-religions right-wing fanatcism. I think it will never come to pass. Would take a LOT of work just to identify all of them (and us buddhists)...and money, too. Just one more crazy spouting off his craziness, but scary nonetheless! The wording alone makes me shudder, not to even mention the mentality!
Quote:Brothers and Sisters , I have been seriously considering forming a ( Christian ) grassroots type of organization to be named "The Christian National Registry of Atheists" or something similar . I mean , think about it . There are already National Registrys for convicted sex offenders , ex-convicts , terrorist cells , hate groups like the KKK , skinheads , radical Islamists , etc.. This type of "National Registry" would merely be for information purposes . To inform the public of KNOWN ( i.e., self-admitted) atheists .
Quote:Now , many (especially the atheists ) , may ask "Why do this , what's the purpose ?" Duhhh , Mr. Atheist , for the same purpose many States put the names and photos of convicted sex offenders and other ex-felons on the I-Net - to INFORM the public !
Quote:My family and I would sure like to know how many of those 109,000 are ADMITTED atheists ! Perhaps we may actually know some . In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism . Or perhaps they are radical atheists , whose hearts are as hard as Pharaoh's , in that case , if they are business owners , we would encourage all our Christian friends , as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be "feeding" Satan .
Quote:The arrogance displayed by the evolutionist class is totally unwarrented. The facts warrent the violent expulsion of all evolutionists from civilized society. I am quite serious that their danger to society is so great that, in a sane society, they would be, at a minimum, denied a vote in the administration of the society, as well as any job where they might influence immature humans, e.g., scout, or youth, leader, teacher and, obviously, professor. Oh, by the way… What is the chance evolutionists will vote or teach in the Kingdom of God? ~ Tom Willis, Creation Science Association.
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:05 AM
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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:12 AM
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:39 AM
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by mal4prez: Cool! Who do you have to fuck to get on that list? OK, that line is borrowed from my sister, who said it of the anti-christ list that came out for Y2K. ----------------------------------------------- hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Oh, what, you missed the numerous "lists" going around already? Terrorism watchlist, etc. We're already there. We've been there for a while. Somehow, the gov't makin lists doesn't creep me out HALF as much as these people makin' lists... I suppose the gov't COULD wipe you out...but that gets messy...More'n likely they just wouldn't let you on an airplane- but these people would BUGGER you to death...and there is just nothin' worse than hypocritical buggering to make you wanna start shooting people.. P.S. I don't doubt that Kwicko I'm sure just compiling the list of the lists you are on would get tedious...Maybe that's why you're safe now...they say "Bring me the report on Kwicko" and some idiot is STILL just waiting by the printer... I'm on a few myself...btw. Nothing important, just enough to keep me on my toes!
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: "Merely for informational purposes"????? Sounds like someone else I know of talking, someone who had a lot of power, someone named HITLER. My best friend and I stumbled upon this whacky website that had all these ultra rediculous articles written by people like this, some including zombies. I said it had to be a joke webpage, I mean who really would write that stuff? But she thinks that the people who put it together are actually serious. Yikes, I bet this article is on that website. One can only laugh at stupidity until one realizes that people actually believe it. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: "Merely for informational purposes"????? Sounds like someone else I know of talking, someone who had a lot of power, someone named HITLER. My best friend and I stumbled upon this whacky website that had all these ultra rediculous articles written by people like this, some including zombies. I said it had to be a joke webpage, I mean who really would write that stuff? But she thinks that the people who put it together are actually serious. Yikes, I bet this article is on that website. One can only laugh at stupidity until one realizes that people actually believe it. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya Most of the gun websites I frequent have discussions about what they refer to as "Zombie Apocalypse". It's couched language that allows you to talk openly about shooting and killing lots and lots of people, because you're not REALLY talking about killing "people", but rather "zombies", so that's okay. But it has a meaning to these folks. I've little doubt Wulfie and his friends refer to shooting zombies when they're really talking about how much they wish they could just start shooting "liberals". That so-called Zombie Apocalypse is the underground code for when everything goes tits-up, society collapses, and it's every man for himself. "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:40 PM
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:55 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Somehow, the gov't makin lists doesn't creep me out HALF as much as these people makin' lists...
Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:40 AM
Quote: Yet, historically, governments kill far more people than religious extremists.
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