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Steve Jobs Dead at 56

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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




:(


Just breaking news. Sad.

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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:10 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.



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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I feel ya, PR.


iSad.

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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


He was only 56?

Impressive what has been done because of him and others in that short period of time.


Is he really dead?


God... do I feel old now........... :(

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 5:41 PM

DREAMTROVE


Sad. I didn't know he was so young.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 5:46 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


God is dead?

And yet, the world goes on...

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:00 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


I wonder if the Occupy Wall Street folks are Tweeting their joy at the death of a corporate one-percenter on their iPhones.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:24 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if the Occupy Wall Street folks are Tweeting their joy at the death of a corporate one-percenter on their iPhones.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Oh, I knew someone could politicize it.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:31 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Well that's one less corporate jet user for Obama to blame all his problems on.









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Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:45 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if the Occupy Wall Street folks are Tweeting their joy at the death of a corporate one-percenter on their iPhones.




I wonder if there are conservatives celebrating the deaths of soldiers in battle, since they've now successfully gotten those "leeches" and "moochers" off the government tit and cut the size of the government.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:51 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if the Occupy Wall Street folks are Tweeting their joy at the death of a corporate one-percenter on their iPhones.



For the win!

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 4:28 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, just about anything and everything posted here will be turned into partisan idiocy. I wish this weren't. I cried when I heard, for many, many reasons. End of an era, for one; the concept that anyone will come around as inventive as him any time in the near future is slim, in my estimation. Makes me feel old, too...the first Mac I worked on was one of those cute little boxy things we got as a side note to a merger in the law firm where I worked; hubby and I turned it into an entire department (and the company upgraded of course, after they saw the potential) and did wonderful things with them. I could afford to have one back then and adored it.

Jobs was one of the few people who ever created things we didn't even know we wanted, and many couldn't imagine being WITHOUT them once they had them. That's unusual. I was hearing the news stories on several stations last night, and I agree with them; they put him up there with Ford, Bell, Franklin and others for first making something available to the public which changed society in a major way. I agree.

My husband just got an iPad, and has been all but giddy (which is virtually unheard of for him) as he discovers all the neat things it can do. Jobs was the first to conceive of the idea of computers in the home, something everyone else rejected as absurd at the time.

As to "giving back", by the way, for those who like to argue that the rich have nothing for which they "owe" society,
Quote:

Apple was the biggest contributor for the (Product) Red fund-raising brand to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, giving tens of millions of dollars.
He's no Bill Gates, but he did his share.

Another reason for sadness for me is, while I've long since ceased being able to afford a Mac, I've always loved them (in many ways they made my job as desktop publisher possible). I'm not sure what the future holds for Apple now, and I'd hate to see it go under as it almost did before without him.

Then I found out he was the first to come up with the concept of "fonts", and I cried again. That hits me personally, as I've got a love affair with fonts, and have ever since that first little Mac, which freed me from the bloody green-on-black Courier.

Rarely has one individiaul been not only so closely tied with his company's products, but been so personally involved in every damned one of them, even after making his millions and becoming the head of a huge corporation.

I grew up with Jobs, so for me, yes, it is the end of an era. And a sad day; the world has lost something it may never see again, especially as American innovation seems to be on the wane.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Thursday, October 6, 2011 4:42 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if the Occupy Wall Street folks are Tweeting their joy at the death of a corporate one-percenter on their iPhones.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Oh, I knew someone could politicize it.




When the news came out of Steve Jobs' death, I had just been watching a news report on the Occupy Wall Street folks; wearing their A&F shirts and North Face jackets, sipping their Starbucks, and texting on their iPhones. The correlation wasn't hard to make.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 4:59 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I've long since ceased being able to afford a Mac


Check out the Mini; that's how I afforded a Mac. All the power in about 1/4 the package for nearly 1/2 the price.


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 9:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Thanx Rose, but it's a no-go for me. I have a computer; until/unless that dies, that's all I got. I'm used to PC by now, it's been a couple of decades since I had my one-and-only Mac. I can live with it. Personal preference and financial constraints don't mesh too much anymore, if we want anything left for our OLD old age...


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Thursday, October 6, 2011 9:28 AM

HERO


More bad Jobs news for President Obama to deal with.

That said I love my Ipad, its the greatest thing ever and I want to thank Steve Jobs, all the Apple designers, and all the foriegn factory workers for giving it to me.

And why isn't he frozen somewhere waiting for a cure like Walk Disney is?

Hmmm...Bush era, Jobs. Obama, no Jobs.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:05 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
And why isn't he frozen somewhere waiting for a cure like Walk Disney is?


Maybe because that's an urban legend. (The sort that isn't true; Walt isn't frozen, he's dead and buried.)


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


So, last night I tune into Attack of the Show, and immediately I see Kevin Pereira's face. He's not smiling, he's talking in reserved, steady tones, and I can tell something's up.

I had not heard the news yet of Steve's passing, but I knew the folks on ATOS weren't putting on an act. Didn't take long to figure it out, and man... They really did take it rough. My first instinct was that someone on the show had passed, so somber was the tone on the set.

( The show after Ryan Dunn died, that was pretty tough to watch , as Jessica Chobot, Ryan's co-host on G4's Proving Ground was on to talk about her fallen friend )

This show seems almost as sad, though folks were more in disbelief than the kind of hurt of suddenly losing someone they knew on a personal basis.


Steve Jobs did some really cool stuff that has helped out a whole lot of people.

Thanks, Steve.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 2:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Yeah, just about anything and everything posted here will be turned into partisan idiocy. I wish this weren't. I cried when I heard, for many, many reasons. End of an era, for one; the concept that anyone will come around as inventive as him any time in the near future is slim, in my estimation. Makes me feel old, too...the first Mac I worked on was one of those cute little boxy things we got as a side note to a merger in the law firm where I worked; hubby and I turned it into an entire department (and the company upgraded of course, after they saw the potential) and did wonderful things with them. I could afford to have one back then and adored it.

Jobs was one of the few people who ever created things we didn't even know we wanted, and many couldn't imagine being WITHOUT them once they had them. That's unusual. I was hearing the news stories on several stations last night, and I agree with them; they put him up there with Ford, Bell, Franklin and others for first making something available to the public which changed society in a major way. I agree.

My husband just got an iPad, and has been all but giddy (which is virtually unheard of for him) as he discovers all the neat things it can do. Jobs was the first to conceive of the idea of computers in the home, something everyone else rejected as absurd at the time.

As to "giving back", by the way, for those who like to argue that the rich have nothing for which they "owe" society,
Quote:

Apple was the biggest contributor for the (Product) Red fund-raising brand to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, giving tens of millions of dollars.
He's no Bill Gates, but he did his share.

Another reason for sadness for me is, while I've long since ceased being able to afford a Mac, I've always loved them (in many ways they made my job as desktop publisher possible). I'm not sure what the future holds for Apple now, and I'd hate to see it go under as it almost did before without him.

Then I found out he was the first to come up with the concept of "fonts", and I cried again. That hits me personally, as I've got a love affair with fonts, and have ever since that first little Mac, which freed me from the bloody green-on-black Courier.

Rarely has one individiaul been not only so closely tied with his company's products, but been so personally involved in every damned one of them, even after making his millions and becoming the head of a huge corporation.

I grew up with Jobs, so for me, yes, it is the end of an era. And a sad day; the world has lost something it may never see again, especially as American innovation seems to be on the wane.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off






Pfizer has tons of pills for that condition.

Seriously, Jobs dying was making you cry?

You're a tough woman who (according to the source) has everything she needs in life. (except for a macbook, perhaps :smokin)

People die.

Sure, I shed a tear when my aunt, uncle and grandfather all died 5 years ago from cancer, when my other uncle (who was like a brother to me) died 4 years ago (after hours of being on a hospital bed prolonging the agony after he shot himself in the head), and my uncle who gave me my acoustic guitar died of bladder/lung/brain cancer died last year.....

I know most posters here are atheists, and by and large I'm agnostic at best, but I do find some comfort in believing that they're still out there somewhere after death.

If I'm wrong about that, what have I got to lose?


It's not as if I go to church or vest any time/money into the belief.

It is what it is.

RIP Steve. Good show my man.....

~6

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 2:50 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if the Occupy Wall Street folks are Tweeting their joy at the death of a corporate one-percenter on their iPhones.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Bravo. Just never can pass up the op to be a douche, can ya?

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if the Occupy Wall Street folks are Tweeting their joy at the death of a corporate one-percenter on their iPhones.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Bravo. Just never can pass up the op to be a douche, can ya?



Jobs did do away with the corp philanthropy program, when he came back to Apple. And he never revived it.

The idea that big corporations are some how expected to 'give back' to society by shoveling sums of their hard earned profit to this or that arbitrarily selected group, instead of investing it back into the company, is nonsensical. Such programs are little more than a shake down. Apple, and all other big corporations GIVE by producing something of value, while employing lots of people who earn a living, pay taxes and then go out and buy other goods and services.

Gotta admire a man who sticks to his convictions, huh?

It's not being a 'douche' to call things as they really are.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 9, 2011 3:19 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


It was disappointing to hear that Steve Jobs has died. He was one of the last great inovators and inventors it seems. I hope that we'll have many more of them immerge, but people don't seem to be interested in forging new trails anymore it seems.

I don't understand people's need to politicize everything either, we're talking about someone dying here, why does it have to be tainted by more political stuff? Oh well, we could all agree to ignore it next time, I think that's what I'm going to do.

SixString, some people are just more emotional than you, that's just life, some people are more intense and have stronger feelings about the world and connections therein and are more sentimental. I can tell that you aren't very sentimental about certain things, it ain't a crime, I suspect that there are some things out there that you would be more sentimental about. Everyone's different. I didn't cry about it, but it was sad since he was only middle aged and he died from something that is pretty incurable right now, so finding out you have it is pretty much a death sentence.

And I'm not one of the "most" who are atheists, just making that clear to you.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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