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Friday, June 1, 2012 7:24 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Call them "unicorners." A liberal group says it has collected more than 19,000 e-mails requesting Arizona officials to confirm Mitt Romney is not a unicorn. Without such proof, the group Left Action argues with tongue in cheek, Romney may indeed be a unicorn -- his dark mane hiding a horn -- and therefore ineligible to be on the presidential ballot in November.] The farcical campaign mimics efforts by "birthers," and some top supporters of certain Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, to continually raise the already-settled issue of whether President Barack Obama meets the Constitution's requirements for citizenship. "I feel like we've tried logic with the birthers for too long," Left Action founder John Hlinko said Wednesday. "Now it's time to take their arguments to the logical extreme to show how absurd they are." While steeped in satire, the unicorn-birther matter touches on deeper issues as Obama and Romney head into the November campaign. Despite conclusive evidence to the contrary, the issue has remained alive, nurtured by the conservative blogosphere and getting raised repeatedly by Republican figures. Before campaigning with Romney on Tuesday, Trump bristled when told by CNN's Wolf Blitzer that he was beginning to sound "a little ridiculous" for characterizing the question of where Obama was born as a matter of opinion, rather than fact. "You are, Wolf," Trump fired back. "Let me tell you something, I think you sound ridiculous." When asked Monday about Trump's raising it, Romney said he believes Obama was born in the United States. "You know, I don't agree with all the people who support me, and my guess is, they don't all agree with everything I believe in," Romney said. "But I need to get 50.1% or more, and I'm appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people." It didn't matter that the White House last year released Obama's long-form birth certificate from Hawaii. Trump and others question whether the document is authentic, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona's Maricopa County -- known for his tough crackdown on illegal immigrants -- has sent a deputy to Hawaii to check it out. Bennett, a co-chairman of Romney's Arizona campaign, defended the request for proof from Hawaii, telling Arizona radio station KTAR last week that "I don't see anything wrong with verifying something so that as many Arizonans as possible have confidence that the people that appear on the ballot are entitled to be there." "If I embarrassed the state, I apologize," he said. When Hawaii later provided the requested proof, Bennett announced the matter settled and said Obama would be on the ballot in Arizona as long as he filed all the proper paperwork. Hlinko called the episode "asinine," saying it was the "straw that broke the camel's back" for inspiring him to launch the Romney-unicorn campaign. He created a website labeled www.MittRomneyisAUnicorn.com and spread the word using his network's Internet connections on Facebook and other sites. "What about the persistent rumors that Mitt Romney is in fact, a unicorn?" the website says, using italics for emphasis. "There has never been a conclusive DNA test proving that Mitt Romney is not a unicorn. We have never seen him without his hair -- hair that could be covering up a horn." Lampooning the logic of birthers, the website says: "No, we cannot prove it. But we cannot prove that it is not the case. And if Mitt Romney is or may be a unicorn, he is not constitutionally qualified to be president." On Wednesday, the website said it had more than 19,000 e-mails supporting an investigation by Bennett into Romney's possible unicorn heritage. Earlier this month, the Iowa state GOP wrote a passage into its proposed party platform calling on presidential candidates to "show proof of being a natural-born citizen," beginning with the 2012 election. In addition, Republican Congress members from Florida, Colorado and Missouri have publicly raised questions about Obama's citizenship in recent weeks. http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/30/politics/romney-unicorn/index.html?eref=rss_politics&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_allpolitics+%28RSS%3A+Politics%29&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner&iref=obinsite the birther theories and their stubborn determination to hold their beliefs despite all evidence to the contrary is asinine makes it a perfectly valid target for this "unicorn" thing. Both "arguments" are on about the same footing when it comes to common sense. Plus the unicorn thing is funnier than the birther bullshit. Text of page above from mittromneyisaunicorn.com: Quote:But what about Mitt Romney? What about the persistent rumors that Mitt Romney is in fact, a unicorn? There has never been a conclusive DNA test proving that Mitt Romney is not a unicorn. We have never seen him without his hair -- hair that could be covering up a horn. No, we cannot prove it. But we cannot prove that it is not the case. And if Mitt Romney is or may be a unicorn, he is not Constitutionally qualified to be president.Quote:1,200 emails were enough to get Bennett to launch an "investigation" of the president's birth, and come out with this statement. So 1,200 messages to him regarding unicorn Romney should be enough for him to launch an investigation on that front as well. www.mittromneyisaunicorn.com only sense spoken by anyone is the following, from RightWingNews:Quote:Perhaps it’s time to give up the Birtherism folks, and focus simply on voting Barack H. Obama out of office. No one can provide proof that Obama was, in fact, born outside of the US and is ineligible to be POTUS as a natural born citizen. As for Romney, he needs to either tell Donald Trump to STFU or GTFO when it comes to Birtherism. The Donald is not helping. So, please, Birthers, stop it. It was fun to “just wonder” why Obama wouldn’t release the BC (versus the Certificate of Live Birth). The time has ended. Move on. If you don’t have rock solid proof, you won’t find it. He was born in Hawaii to an American born mother. That’s all that is needed to be considered a natural born citizen. Find something else to focus on. http://rightwingnews.com/conspiracy-theories/is-mitt-romney-a-unicorn/Of course, they're not interested in intelligent advice, so it will go unheeded.
Quote:But what about Mitt Romney? What about the persistent rumors that Mitt Romney is in fact, a unicorn? There has never been a conclusive DNA test proving that Mitt Romney is not a unicorn. We have never seen him without his hair -- hair that could be covering up a horn. No, we cannot prove it. But we cannot prove that it is not the case. And if Mitt Romney is or may be a unicorn, he is not Constitutionally qualified to be president.Quote:1,200 emails were enough to get Bennett to launch an "investigation" of the president's birth, and come out with this statement. So 1,200 messages to him regarding unicorn Romney should be enough for him to launch an investigation on that front as well. www.mittromneyisaunicorn.com only sense spoken by anyone is the following, from RightWingNews:Quote:Perhaps it’s time to give up the Birtherism folks, and focus simply on voting Barack H. Obama out of office. No one can provide proof that Obama was, in fact, born outside of the US and is ineligible to be POTUS as a natural born citizen. As for Romney, he needs to either tell Donald Trump to STFU or GTFO when it comes to Birtherism. The Donald is not helping. So, please, Birthers, stop it. It was fun to “just wonder” why Obama wouldn’t release the BC (versus the Certificate of Live Birth). The time has ended. Move on. If you don’t have rock solid proof, you won’t find it. He was born in Hawaii to an American born mother. That’s all that is needed to be considered a natural born citizen. Find something else to focus on. http://rightwingnews.com/conspiracy-theories/is-mitt-romney-a-unicorn/Of course, they're not interested in intelligent advice, so it will go unheeded.
Quote:1,200 emails were enough to get Bennett to launch an "investigation" of the president's birth, and come out with this statement. So 1,200 messages to him regarding unicorn Romney should be enough for him to launch an investigation on that front as well. www.mittromneyisaunicorn.com only sense spoken by anyone is the following, from RightWingNews:Quote:Perhaps it’s time to give up the Birtherism folks, and focus simply on voting Barack H. Obama out of office. No one can provide proof that Obama was, in fact, born outside of the US and is ineligible to be POTUS as a natural born citizen. As for Romney, he needs to either tell Donald Trump to STFU or GTFO when it comes to Birtherism. The Donald is not helping. So, please, Birthers, stop it. It was fun to “just wonder” why Obama wouldn’t release the BC (versus the Certificate of Live Birth). The time has ended. Move on. If you don’t have rock solid proof, you won’t find it. He was born in Hawaii to an American born mother. That’s all that is needed to be considered a natural born citizen. Find something else to focus on. http://rightwingnews.com/conspiracy-theories/is-mitt-romney-a-unicorn/Of course, they're not interested in intelligent advice, so it will go unheeded.
Quote:Perhaps it’s time to give up the Birtherism folks, and focus simply on voting Barack H. Obama out of office. No one can provide proof that Obama was, in fact, born outside of the US and is ineligible to be POTUS as a natural born citizen. As for Romney, he needs to either tell Donald Trump to STFU or GTFO when it comes to Birtherism. The Donald is not helping. So, please, Birthers, stop it. It was fun to “just wonder” why Obama wouldn’t release the BC (versus the Certificate of Live Birth). The time has ended. Move on. If you don’t have rock solid proof, you won’t find it. He was born in Hawaii to an American born mother. That’s all that is needed to be considered a natural born citizen. Find something else to focus on. http://rightwingnews.com/conspiracy-theories/is-mitt-romney-a-unicorn/
Friday, June 1, 2012 7:38 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Friday, June 1, 2012 8:35 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Friday, June 1, 2012 8:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: We DO need to see Ol' Mitt's birth certificate. Seems he was born somewhere called AMERCIA.
Friday, June 1, 2012 10:38 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Friday, June 1, 2012 10:50 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Friday, June 1, 2012 11:02 AM
Friday, June 1, 2012 11:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Hello, It is a code. Amer- C.I.A. ;-)
Friday, June 1, 2012 11:17 AM
Friday, June 1, 2012 3:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I don't get it...what wacky supporters does Obama have? Have I missed something? Sure, he's got the occasional nutcase, everyone does, but who are "all" these whackos he won't call out? They must not be wacky enough to make the news, 'cuz I've missed them.
Friday, June 1, 2012 4:19 PM
Quote:So Obama is someone you guys want for President
Quote: Wait a minute. I've read this somewhere before.
Saturday, June 2, 2012 3:32 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: The unicorners are exactly as valid in their concerns as the birthers are in theirs. Donald Trump has seen no proof that Mittens is NOT a unicorn, after all, and any proof he may think he's seen could be easily faked; people do that all the time. ;)
Saturday, June 2, 2012 3:48 AM
WHOZIT
Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:29 AM
Quote:I think there is a vital difference between absurd parody or satire and what the birthers are doing. Nobody will believe that Romney is a Unicorn, and it was never intended to be believed by anybody. But many people question Obama's legitimacy and it is intended that they do so.
Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:41 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: I'm not entirely sure that's true of anyone here. Is there anyone here who actually WANTS Obama for President? I have the feeling most people who plan to vote for him just kind of feel stuck with him as the least bad of bad choices.
Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:55 AM
Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:03 AM
BYTEMITE
Quote:I don't get it...what wacky supporters does Obama have? Have I missed something? Sure, he's got the occasional nutcase, everyone does, but who are "all" these whackos he won't call out? They must not be wacky enough to make the news, 'cuz I've missed them.
Quote:BOTH sides?! What have the Dems done exactly that indicates they want this bullshit? It's purely on the right, you know so, and it's convenient for Romney to play along.
Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:23 AM
Quote: If Obama lied in the past, claiming to be foreign born so as to game the system,( for college scholarships, literary notoriety, etc ) then that's a legit issue. He won't release ANY of his college records
Quote:and then his publishing company's bio is revealed, stating his Kenyan birth...
Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:36 AM
Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: The unicorners are exactly as valid in their concerns as the birthers are in theirs. Donald Trump has seen no proof that Mittens is NOT a unicorn, after all, and any proof he may think he's seen could be easily faked; people do that all the time. ;)
Quote: So incapable of defending Obama on his record, seems some on the Left have resorted to a childish spasm of idiocy, worthy of The Onion, but less funny.
Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Oh no I have jumped the gun
Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:32 AM
Saturday, June 2, 2012 9:51 AM
Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:07 AM
Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Quote: If Obama lied in the past, claiming to be foreign born so as to game the system,( for college scholarships, literary notoriety, etc ) then that's a legit issue. He won't release ANY of his college records I'm looking for the goalposts - IT'S BEHIND YOU MAN. COMING UP FAST. Quote:and then his publishing company's bio is revealed, stating his Kenyan birth... I'm sure publishing companies are the official word in everything and never profit from controversy.
Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: So Obama is someone you guys want for President; a guy so cowardly he won't call out the wackiest supporters he's got who go on delusional rants? He knows, of course, that it's a dog whistle to the crazier elements of his base, and what does THAT say about a potential President, too? Why would any serious candidate align himself with these deluded fanatics? The unicorners are patent idiots, riding whatever wave of attention they can garner; why doesn't Obama say ANYTHING to them? It's not as if the unicorners have or can contribute to his campign. It's pure political shikanery, and we all know it.
Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:15 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, June 4, 2012 6:45 AM
Monday, June 4, 2012 6:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: This thread is just asking for Byte to put up more silly pictures, the title is begging and pleading with her, oh Byte, pleeeeeeeeease. :)))))) I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.
Monday, June 4, 2012 6:58 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I don't get it...what wacky supporters does Obama have? Have I missed something? Sure, he's got the occasional nutcase, everyone does, but who are "all" these whackos he won't call out? They must not be wacky enough to make the news, 'cuz I've missed them. Just quoting (with the names changed to protect the guilty) your response to Trump's birther crap, which he believes about as much as the Unicorners believe their crap. Just publicity stunts on both sides. You haven't figured this out yet?
Monday, June 4, 2012 7:06 AM
Quote: But I doubt she has any more rainbows and unicorns to post, or she'd have posted them by now. ;)
Monday, June 4, 2012 11:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Quote: But I doubt she has any more rainbows and unicorns to post, or she'd have posted them by now. ;) Well, there are LOTS of unicorn pictures out there, it's pretty much impossible to run out of unicorn pictures. But in order for the theme to remain funny, each new picture has to have another twist. If I just posted a bunch of unicorns, stretched out the page and dropped a hundred or so internet slowing pictures in here, that might still be funny, but more annoying.
Monday, June 4, 2012 11:57 AM
Monday, June 4, 2012 1:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: >_> It's a uni-corner. I know you were joking but I don't get the reference. ._.
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