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Obama Administration Expands Oil Drilling

POSTED BY: ANTHONYT
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 14:59
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Monday, July 16, 2012 5:24 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/26/obama-to-allow-more-ar
ctic-drilling/?iref=obnetwork


Hello,

Political backbone always seems to fade in the face of money. The conservatives who wanted to expand exploration and drilling are likely very pleased with Obama's decisions in this regard.

--Anthony

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Monday, July 16, 2012 5:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


This is news to you, I take it. We've been protesting this for weeks now and yes, it pisses the hell out of me.

Bottom line is yes, our Woos in Chief has done it again, damn his eyes. It's not the first time, nor will it be the last...all we can do is keep on fighting.

We had a candidate for Congress this past primary who would have fought for us...we JUST found out, after a looong time of counting votes, that he lost by a couple of hundred votes, dammit. His opponent is a good guy and will protect our Coast, but he wouldn't have gone as far as Soloman I have no doubt. He'll win in the Fall...the Republican candidate barely beat out Soloman and was waaaay behind the Republican. (Oh--here in California, any two people of any party can win the primaries, so if Soloman had beat him out, the election would have been between two Dems.) We need far more like them in the House and Senate--we'll keep giving 'em to you from CA, but that's all WE can do. Either one of these two candidates will fight against drilling and encourage more sustainable energy sources HERE, anyway. It's up to the rest of the country to learn facts and change minds...(hahahahah--like that's gonna happen any time soon).



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Monday, July 16, 2012 6:04 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Political backbone always seems to fade in the face of money.

Political backbone? Isn't that an oxymoron?

-----
So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
is all the sad world needs.
- Ella Wheeler Wilcox, poet (1850-1919)

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Monday, July 16, 2012 1:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


'Cause oil drilling in sensitive locations under harsh conditions is ALWAYS an effing brilliant idea!

Shell drill ship slips moorings, drifts toward Alaska shore
http://news.yahoo.com/shell-drill-ship-slips-moorings-drifts-toward-al
aska-215158030.html

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Monday, July 16, 2012 5:34 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, CTTS, kinda like "government accountability"...

And yeah, Sig, that too...I won't read the link, tho', if you don't mind: I've been trying to ignore that story ever since I heard about it...

This whole new arctic-drilling thing just makes me sick whenever I don't manage to keep from thinking about it. For particular irony, it involves the "Chukchi Sea". The Chukchis were the people who "created" the Siberian Husky; I learned a lot about them when we got Tashi, our first husky, and so it kinda feels personal in a way...and blasphemous, too...

We have only to wait for the Sword of Damoclese to come down on THAT one!



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Barrow, Alaska (CNN) -- Edward Itta, a powerful Eskimo leader, looks out at the icy Arctic Ocean stretched out under a fuzzy orange sun that refuses to set this time of year.

"This is our garden," said the former mayor of the North Slope Borough, a county-style government covering an area as big as Wyoming.

Itta's garden, the Arctic Ocean, is filled with the whales, seals, walruses and fish the Inupiat Eskimos still need to survive.

But many Inupiats think "their garden" is being threatened by an international oil rush to get at what may be a treasure trove of more than 25 billion barrels of crude.

Itta's lynchpin decision on whether to fight Shell Alaska's efforts to begin exploratory drilling in the Arctic was among the most difficult of his 67 years.

Running his hands along the edge of a traditional boat -- much like the Inupiat people have used for thousands of years to hunt whale -- Itta remembers environmental oil disasters such as 1989's Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizon.

But he also talks about the critical economic needs of the region's 9,500 people -- 11% of whom live below the poverty line. "I struggled with myself and prayed a lot," says Itta.

Shortly before Itta left office after serving a maximum term, he reached a compromise with Shell that opened the door for drilling to begin later this year.

Practical and personal considerations influenced Itta's decision, he says. Growing up, he had no electricity, no running water. "You'd get back and forth from where you need to with dog teams."

"I started dealing with looking at my grandkids and my kids and what I had gone through ... and I wanted them to have what I have, if not better."

If production dips from the region's Prudhoe Bay wells and pipeline, "our tax revenues go way, way, way down," Itta admits. In an era when reliance on foreign oil is seen as a security threat, President Barack Obama's support of offshore drilling also helped Itta decide. "I think it's inevitable that action is going to happen out here -- in the name of national security if for nothing else."

What's interesting about Itta's shift toward his final decision is how far he traveled.

In his own words, Itta moved from "hell no" to "OK."

"Not only no ... but HELL no!" Itta emphasizes. "Even one time I said, 'I'm going to fight this, and they will have to do it over my dead body.' "

In this age of polarized politics and unwavering ideology, you have to wonder what was that internal journey was like.

Itta is no stranger to the oil industry. He spent some time working as a roustabout in Alaska's Prudhoe Bay, the nation's largest oil field.

But Itta viewed Shell's plan at first as "another threat to our way of life up here."

"We are the Arctic, because we are the land, we are the ocean we are one and the same," says Itta. "That's how we look at our environment -- how our culture has managed to get to this day and age, through thousands of years in one of the harshest environments."

"Our subsistence for the winter, it all comes from the ocean, the fish and whale. It's going to ruin our ocean," said 79-year-old Abagail Nashupuq of Point Hope, Alaska.

Under the agreement negotiated by Itta, the borough agreed not to sue Shell if the company maintains constant scientific research and halts drilling when whales are in the region. They've agreed to fund a scientific environmental monitoring program with local coastal communities getting from $3 million to $5 million a year, Itta said.

Despite the agreement, Itta still says he opposes offshore drilling "mainly because I don't think enough mitigation measures have been even thought of or done to safeguard our waters and our way of life."

The tipping point in reaching the agreement, Itta said, was something his father once told him.

"You're going to be on a fool's errand if you think you are going to please everybody," he said. "Give it your best shot, seek advice and once you think you've found that -- go with it and don't look back."

"So that's the point where I said, 'OK, it's a compromise.' That's the right way: they have to give. We have to give."

Final word on whether to allow exploratory drilling is now up to the Department of Interior.

"I think I can rest easy that I have done the very best I could to bring our issues as Inupiat Eskimos to the forefront, in a way the oil industry understands -- the permitting agencies understand," Itta said. http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/17/us/alaska-offshore-drilling/index.html?h
pt=hp_bn1

Personally, I think he's being terribly, terribly naive. I don't think Shell is being honest in what it is promising, and I think, in those dangerous waters, a spill is pretty inevitable. I wonder how he'll feel about it then.

Hell, it's already going "wrong":
Quote:

Shell has been forced to postpone drilling, which was scheduled to begin this month, until August by an unexpectedly thick ice pack.

The delay cuts valuable time for Shell, which is operating under U.S. permits that require the company to stop drilling in the seas by the end of October.

On Saturday, one of the ships that Shell plans to use to drill slipped its mooring and drifted close to one of Alaska's Aleutian Islands. It was the latest in a string of incidents to arise around the controversial project.

Questions also were raised in June about the durability of one of Shell's underwater oil spill containment vessels in severe weather, which resulted in the vessel that was headed to one of the drilling sites to be temporarily held at port in Washington.

Opponents also fear that floating ice will make any spill in the region a potential disaster.

"Nobody knows how to contain or clean up a spill in the harsh and remote seas of the Arctic," said Frances Beinecke, Natural Resources Defense Council president, in a written statement. If a "blowout occurs late in the drilling season, there won't be time to stop it before the winter ice chokes the site, leaving oil to gush uncontrolled for months." Same

Absolutely sickening, to me. Oil isn't the answer, it's finite, and still we keep trying to wrest it from the earth, rather than using our brains and recogizing we HAVE to switch to renewable sources. But people will cling to what's familiar and politicians will cling to Big Oil until we've wrested every smidgen of oil and "natural gas" from the land, and encountered many more disasters. THEN what will they do??

I heard Obama at a town hall yesterday. A guy asked what he was going to do about the fracking where he lived--it was one of those vowel states, Iowa or Ohio or something. The Woos in Chief went on and on about how important natural gas is and did a real sell job, then mentioned that we have to do it "responsibly". What a crock!



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:59 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


That article about Baro was interesting, in my house we're into Alaska and Native concerns etc. We're addicted to Flying Wild Alaska on Discovery. I think he perceives it as the lesser of two evils, we'll see what happens though.

I have Kathy Bates on speed dial, mwa ha ha ha (in exaggeratedly evil voice)

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