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Holmes fell through the cracks

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Thursday, August 2, 2012 13:30
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Thursday, August 2, 2012 8:17 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Apparently he's another one that fell through the cracks. There are too many "cracks" in the system which could have prevented some of these things, which is a shame. I'll bet she's kicking the hell out of herself now, or at least I hope she is, rather than just rationalizing "it wasn't my problem".
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The psychiatrist treating the accused Colorado movie theater gunman was so concerned about his behavior that she mentioned it to her colleagues, saying he could potentially be a danger to others, CNN affiliate KMGH reported Wednesday, citing sources with knowledge of the investigation.

The psychiatrist's concerns surfaced in early June, nearly six weeks before the July 20 killings inside a movie theater in Aurora, sources told the Denver station.

A court document filed Friday revealed Holmes was a patient of University of Colorado psychiatrist Lynne Fenton before the attack.

Sources told KMGH that Fenton contacted several members of a "behavioral evaluation and threat assessment" team to say Holmes could potentially be a danger to others, the station reported.

The "BETA" team consists of "key" staff members from various university departments who have specific expertise in dealing with assessing potential threats on campus, the school says on its website.

Sources told KMGH that university officials never contacted Aurora police with Fenton's concerns before the July 20 killings.

"Fenton made initial phone calls about engaging the BETA team" in "the first 10 days" of June but it "never came together" because in the period Fenton was having conversations with team members, Holmes began the process of dropping out of school, a source told KMGH.

Sources told the station that when Holmes withdrew, the BETA team "had no control over him."

KMGH said sources did not know what Holmes told Fenton that sparked her concern.

"It takes more than just statements," one source told the station, explaining that Holmes would have had to tell Fenton "something specific" before she would have to report it to law enforcement.

"He would have to tell her he had taken steps to make it happen," another source told the station.

One source also told the station that the team may not have been convened because while Fenton had "serious concerns, there may not have been an immediate threat."

It's not clear if Fenton continued treating Homes after he dropped out of school, whether she referred him to another medical professional or had any further contact with him, KMGH reported, citing sources familiar with the investigation.

I understand that his having dropped out put him beyond their purvey, but I wish in cases like this the authorities could at least be notified. It's a shame they weren't. He had to have said SOMETHING to her to cause her to call the team...wish we knew what it was, but we never will.

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 11:44 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Yep, that was one of the first things I spotted while partisans were screaming at each other...
I figure it for typical buck-passing rationalization, no one wants to be left holding the bag, or being responsible, which is sadly understandable cause we really don't HAVE a proper procedure for this which protects both the patients rights and anonymity, should they possibly present a threat - and when misconstrued by accident or on purpose, the latter being common in divorce/custody cases, it opens the psych/therapist/whatever and their practice to lawsuit.

There is also a substantial LACK of trust and credibility, since these kind of interventions are often used for bullshit reasons on teens as a prelude to shipping them off to a hellcamp, usually without just cause or even the most basic of examination or diagnosis, so you have that factor too - kind of like the boy who cried wolf, that.

I mean, if you knew a cop who'd planted dope on people for years, wouldn't you find him a little hard to believe if/when he really DID find dope on someone ?

-Frem

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:30 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




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7:00 Unidentified officer 1: "That white car in the rear of the lot, is that a suspect (James Holmes sitting calmly in his car parked closest to the fire exit door)?
Unidentified officer 2: "Yes, we've got rifles (on the ground), gas mask (on the ground), (?) now I've got an open door going into the theater."
Unidentified officer 1: "Hold your position, hold your suspect." (presumed arrest of James Holmes without violence, all 100 witnesses and survivors are under arrest)

POLICE SCANNER LOG AURORA POLICE AND FIRE FULL LOG AND TRANSCRIPT REPORT PROFESSOR JAMES HOLMES WAS NOT THE SHOOTER
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2012/07/dark-knight-rising-for-new-w
orld-order.html



Eyewitnesses said the actual shooter in police uniform was 6 inches shorter than Professor James Holmes (what's the alibi for Darth Cheney?). No eyewitness saw Professor James Holmes shoot anybody. Professor James Holmes never confessed to shooting anybody. Professor James Holmes has no memory of shootign anybody. Professor James Holmes was so intoxicated on prescription medications he was incapable of shooting anybody. The guns, gans mask and police uniform were not found in the possession of Professor James Holmes.

Professor James holmes was paid a $176,000 grant from Obama in 2012, for mind control research. Professor Holmes previously was employed by Pentagon's DARPA program to use mind control to make Super Soldiers that kill without conscience and have no memory (just like Professor Holmes).

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"He was in full riot gear... He looked like he was from a SWAT team."
-Witness Jennifer Seeger, MSNBC

"The shooter was dressed from head-to-toe in SWAT gear... with Kevlar. He looked like one of the cops. That's what was really confusing to us."
-Jennifer Seeger, three feet away from shooter in theater, CNN

"America's top military leaders drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for war. Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war."
-ABC News, 1 May 2001
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf



http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21212797/alleged-theater-gun
man-was-referred-threat-assessment-team


The Post Office ate my alibi....... It's called CYA -- Cover Your Ass in the Air Force. Dr Fenton ran the US Air Force psych wards in San Antonio Texas, where veteran soldiers sued for being using in MKULTRA mind control experiments.

It's also called planting evidence by the FBI, busted over and over running false-flag terror attacks as confessed in Operation Northwoods.

NY Times: 'FBI Foils Its Own Terrorist Plots'
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-he
lped-along-by-the-fbi.xml


Fake terror plots, paid informants: the tactics of FBI 'entrapment' questioned
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror
-plots


FBI nabs five mastermind geniuses after teaching them how to blow up a bridge in Cleveland
www.naturalnews.com/035757_FBI_terror_plots_false_flag.html



It's also called "plausible deniability", when government criminals commit heinous crimes the sheeple cannot even comprehend. The bigger the crime, the better for (im)plausible deniability.

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"But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."
—Jew Adolf Hitler Schicklegruber Rothschild, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

"We need to brainwash people to think about guns in a vastly different way." -Obama's US attorney general Eric Holder, who gave 20,000 guns to the Mexican mafia to murder 10,000s cops, politicians and journalists in Operation Fast and Furious

"I am convinced that there are more threats to American liberty within the 10 mile radius of my office on Capitol Hill than there are on the rest of the globe."
— Congressman Dr Ron Paul MD

"I'm Barack Obama, the Marxist professor. I spent the last two years of high school in a daze. I drank beer heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically. Look I uh, when I was a kid , I inhaled, frequently. that was uh, that was the point. Now you know that guy ain't shit. Sorry ass motherfuckers got nothin on me, nothin. Shit's gettin way too complicated for me. There are white folks, then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you. You can put lipstick on a pig. You ain't my bitch nigger, buy your own damn fries. That's just how white folks will do ya."
-Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro, Dreams From My Father MP3






Don't be sheeple, be a man. Hell, even Nikovich12 already is one.

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