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After Many Gaffes, Debates Are Romney’s Last Stand

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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At a time when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney needs to be closing the narrow gap in the polls with President Obama, his gaffes over the past two weeks have only compounded the problem—and risk putting the presidency out of reach. It will take a dramatic and swift turnaround—one the campaign promised would begin on Monday—to shift the momentum in the Republican’s favor.

A weekend report in Politico about discord among Romney’s top campaign aides, and the subsequent surfacing of a video of Romney telling wealthy donors last May that the 47 percent of Americans who “pay no income tax” are victims living off government support, add up to a devastating picture of the would-be president less than 50 days before the election. Romney had planned to revitalize his campaign and shift the focus back to the economy this week after the embarrassing debacle stemming from his ham-handed attacks over how the administration has managed unrest in the Middle East.

These fresh revelations underscore some of the worst criticism raised by Democrats and Republicans alike about his core beliefs and skills as a politician and government leader, making it increasingly hard to overturn the sense in the zeitgeist that Romney—as portrayed last weekend by “Saturday Night Live”—might as well be Obama’s secret weapon.

Romney defended his remarks captured by a hidden video camera—and released by the grandson of former president Jimmy Carter--as largely pertaining to campaign strategy. “We were, of course, talking about a campaign and how he’s going to get close to half the vote, I’m going to get half the vote, approximately, I hope,” he told Fox News in an interview that aired Tuesday, adding, “I want to get 50.1 percent or more.”

His team has scrambled with damage control, denying any discord in the campaign, writing off his comments at the May fundraiser as inartful, and loudly insisting the former Massachusetts governor remains on track to win in November. But almost nothing they say has diminished these three troubling political realities:

--Romney has bumped up against a glass ceiling in the polls. Romney has trailed Obama since October 2011, according to the average of head-to-head polls by RealClearPolitics. Among the seven decisive battleground states, Romney currently leads in just one: North Carolina.

--Success in business does not always translate into success in politics. Romney vowed to run the government the way a CEO would run a Fortune 500 company, but his own corporate-style campaign organization has stumbled badly – especially in the planning of the national convention and Romney’s acceptance speech. Senior strategist Stuart Stevens has alienated many members of the campaign’s Boston brain trust, and the long knives are out for him.

--Romney is stuck in the worst of all possible worlds -- saddled with the label of either Gordon Gekko or Panderer-in-Chief. If he spoke from the heart in his surreptitiously recorded comments to backers in Boca Raton, Fla., while he was still locking up the GOP nomination, then he probably is the disdainful capitalist who once callously said he wasn’t concerned about the very poor because they had a social safety net to protect them. Or, if he was simply imprecise and his statements don’t reflect his philosophy -- as he explained to reporters Monday evening –- then he opens himself to being a shameless chameleon eager to curry favor with the GOP base any way he can. Neither label is positive.

All of this adds to the pressure Romney faces with three presidential debates in October and the blitz of campaign advertising in the run-up to the election. Even before the release of the video, a spate of polls show Romney’s support has suffered because voters already view him as a stilted and unsympathetic patrician. Despite his public speeches, interviews and ads, he has not convinced the majority of the country that he truly cares about the middle class. Texas Gov. Rick Perry and other GOP rivals during the primary season charged that Romney engaged in “vulture capitalism” that led to the destruction or outsourcing of many middle-class factory and manufacturing jobs.

Obama leads Romney 56 percent to 37 percent on the question of who would do more to help the middle class, a split that has held relatively steady for the past three months based on a survey released last week by The New York Times/CBS News. The same poll shows that most voters think the president understands their problems and tells them what he genuinely believes, while less than half of those surveyed view Romney as similarly empathetic and sincere.

At a time when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney needs to be closing the narrow gap in the polls with President Obama, his gaffes over the past two weeks have only compounded the problem—and risk putting the presidency out of reach. It will take a dramatic and swift turnaround—one the campaign promised would begin on Monday—to shift the momentum in the Republican’s favor.

A weekend report in Politico about discord among Romney’s top campaign aides, and the subsequent surfacing of a video of Romney telling wealthy donors last May that the 47 percent of Americans who “pay no income tax” are victims living off government support, add up to a devastating picture of the would-be president less than 50 days before the election. Romney had planned to revitalize his campaign and shift the focus back to the economy this week after the embarrassing debacle stemming from his ham-handed attacks over how the administration has managed unrest in the Middle East.

These fresh revelations underscore some of the worst criticism raised by Democrats and Republicans alike about his core beliefs and skills as a politician and government leader, making it increasingly hard to overturn the sense in the zeitgeist that Romney—as portrayed last weekend by “Saturday Night Live”—might as well be Obama’s secret weapon.

Romney defended his remarks captured by a hidden video camera—and released by the grandson of former president Jimmy Carter--as largely pertaining to campaign strategy. “We were, of course, talking about a campaign and how he’s going to get close to half the vote, I’m going to get half the vote, approximately, I hope,” he told Fox News in an interview that aired Tuesday, adding, “I want to get 50.1 percent or more.”

His team has scrambled with damage control, denying any discord in the campaign, writing off his comments at the May fundraiser as inartful, and loudly insisting the former Massachusetts governor remains on track to win in November. But almost nothing they say has diminished these three troubling political realities:

Romney has bumped up against a glass ceiling in the polls. Romney has trailed Obama since October 2011, according to the average of head-to-head polls by RealClearPolitics. Among the seven decisive battleground states, Romney currently leads in just one: North Carolina.

Success in business does not always translate into success in politics. Romney vowed to run the government the way a CEO would run a Fortune 500 company, but his own corporate-style campaign organization has stumbled badly – especially in the planning of the national convention and Romney’s acceptance speech. Senior strategist Stuart Stevens has alienated many members of the campaign’s Boston brain trust, and the long knives are out for him.

Romney is stuck in the worst of all possible worlds -- saddled with the label of either Gordon Gekko or Panderer-in-Chief. If he spoke from the heart in his surreptitiously recorded comments to backers in Boca Raton, Fla., while he was still locking up the GOP nomination, then he probably is the disdainful capitalist who once callously said he wasn’t concerned about the very poor because they had a social safety net to protect them. Or, if he was simply imprecise and his statements don’t reflect his philosophy–as he explained to reporters Monday evening– then he opens himself to being a shameless chameleon eager to curry favor with the GOP base any way he can. Neither label is positive.

All of this adds to the pressure Romney faces with three presidential debates in October and the blitz of campaign advertising in the run-up to the election. Even before the release of the video, a spate of polls show Romney’s support has suffered because voters already view him as a stilted and unsympathetic patrician. Despite his public speeches, interviews and ads, he has not convinced the majority of the country that he truly cares about the middle class. Texas Gov. Rick Perry and other GOP rivals during the primary season charged that Romney engaged in “vulture capitalism” that led to the destruction or outsourcing of many middle-class factory and manufacturing jobs.

Obama leads Romney 56 percent to 37 percent on the question of who would do more to help the middle class, a split that has held relatively steady for the past three months based on a survey released last week by The New York Times/CBS News. The same poll shows that most voters think the president understands their problems and tells them what he genuinely believes, while less than half of those surveyed view Romney as similarly empathetic and sincere.

Perhaps most devastating, more than 53 percent of respondents have said since February that Romney’s policies favor the rich. Other surveys by Monmouth University and Fox News show his favorability remains just below the critical 50 percent threshold.

The video obtained and published by the liberal outlet MotherJones on Monday also undermines a key selling point for Romney—that he’s a data-driven numbers cruncher who can work his magic on the federal government.

Throughout his talk, he repeatedly misrepresents important stats, claiming, for example, that half of new college graduates cannot find work. The actual unemployment rate for all Americans between the ages of 16 to 24—regardless of education level—is 17.1 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

One of the more baffling aspects of the Romney campaign is the amount of disarray and internal backbiting that usually becomes public very early in the campaign season or after the election. According to the POLITICO article, Romney—an executive obsessed with tables of organization and PowerPoint presentations—created a team with few lines of authority or accountability – and seven distinct power centers tugging against one another.

As mishaps have piled up, Stuart Stevens, a veteran GOP campaign and media strategist, has taken the brunt of the blame for the unwieldy structure. A joke among frustrated Republicans is that the Romney campaign badly needs a consultant from Bain & Co. to strengthen it. Coupled with the video, the campaign squabbling has prevented Romney from having the conversation he would prefer to have with the country. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/09/19/After-Many-Gaffes-De
bates-Are-Romneys-Last-Stand.aspx#page1


The upcoming debates may make a difference, but given that Obama can attack him on what he said in private, his tax returns, plus his stances on a number of other issues, it doesn't look to rosy to me.

Okay, I've been having FAR too much fun; I could go on quoting from about every news source available about how screwed up Romney and his campaign are, but I'll spare you and go eat lunch instead. Too much fun is definitely unhealthy...

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:59 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Can you imagine the look on Romney's face when he realizes he won't be debating an empty chair?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:27 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Too goddamn easy - all Obama has to do is encourage Mitt to talk, really.
The damn fool has zero concept of when to stop digging, yanno.

-F

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:54 PM

HERO


Just today on Univision the President showed he can't answer substantive questions.

H



Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:10 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Too goddamn easy - all Obama has to do is encourage Mitt to talk, really.
The damn fool has zero concept of when to stop digging, yanno.

-F

Precisely.

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:14 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Hero:
Just today on Univision the President showed he can't answer substantive questions.

Neither can you; what's your point?
A president that can't answer substantive questions is preferable to one who's stated plainly that he's not gonna be working for almost half the country anyway if elected.
Oh, sorry, didn't meant to deflate your poke.


Yes I did.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured BS

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Friday, September 21, 2012 12:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by CHRISISALL:
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Originally posted by Hero:
Just today on Univision the President showed he can't answer substantive questions.

Neither can you; what's your point?
A president that can't answer substantive questions is preferable to one who's stated plainly that he's not gonna be working for almost half the country anyway if elected.
Oh, sorry, didn't meant to deflate your poke.


Yes I did.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured BS




Romney's likely to show up in blackface to court black voters. Hey, he thinks it worked with HIspanic voters...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, September 21, 2012 12:24 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Just today on Univision the President showed he can't answer substantive questions.



Actual Mitt Romney quote:

"I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in."






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, September 21, 2012 10:47 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Okay, first guffaw of the day prize: "Can you imagine the look on Romney's face when he realizes he won't be debating an empty chair?"


They're gonna need a LOT more warm fuzzies by debate time!

Or for that matter, Just let Romney debate HIMSELF! We'd get both sides of the argument, and he's bound to shoot himself in the foot at the same time: Winner, Obama! (Oh, I see Frem already got that one) ;o)


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Friday, September 21, 2012 10:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Mike; that "orange-face" made me do a double take. Is he trying to immitate the OrangeMan, or did Boehner just share his spray-on tan?

"Mitt Romney's Tan At Univision Forum Was Pretty Overboard (PHOTO)":



From the internet:

"Mitt is live on Univision and seems to have borrowed 47% of the country's spray tan products"

"Did Mitt Romney just paint his face orange to get the Latino vote?"

"Did Mitt Romney Seriously Just Wear Brownface to Appear on Univision?"

"Mitt Romney Dons Brownface For Forum With Mexicans"

"So! Self-tanner “accident”? Makeup lady what needs firing? Or did John Boehner take him tanning for a little pick-me-up? He has been having a very hard week"

"Romney accused of getting face overtanned for his Latino campaign stop at Univision"

"Critics say either Romney is taking tanning tips from Speaker John Boehner or he meant what he jokingly said at that fundraiser.--that is would help if he was Latino. The almost orange face sported at Univision was absent when seen on the campaign trail just a day before."




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