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Monday, November 19, 2012 4:43 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:On "The Daily Show" recently, Jon Stewart grilled Mike Huckabee about a TV ad in which Huckabee urged voters to support “biblical values” at the voting box. When Huckabee said that he supported the “biblical model of marriage,” Stewart shot back that “the biblical model of marriage is polygamy.” And there’s a big problem, Stewart went on, with reducing “biblical values” to one or two social issues such as abortion and gay marriage, while ignoring issues such as poverty and immigration reform. It may come as some surprise that as an evangelical Christian, I cheered Stewart on from my living room couch. As someone who loves the Bible and believes it to be the inspired word of God, I hate seeing it reduced to an adjective like Huckabee did. I hate seeing my sacred text flattened out, edited down and used as a prop to support a select few political positions and platforms. And yet evangelicals have grown so accustomed to talking about the Bible this way that we hardly realize we’re doing it anymore. We talk about “biblical families,” “biblical marriage,” “biblical economics,” “biblical politics,” “biblical values,” “biblical stewardship,” “biblical voting,” “biblical manhood,” “biblical womanhood,” even “biblical dating” to create the impression that the Bible has just one thing to say on each of these topics - that it offers a single prescriptive formula for how people of faith ought to respond to them. But the Bible is not a position paper. The Bible is an ancient collection of letters, laws, poetry, proverbs, histories, prophecies, philosophy and stories spanning multiple genres and assembled over thousands of years in cultures very different from our own. When we turn the Bible into an adjective and stick it in front of another loaded word, we tend to ignore or downplay the parts of the Bible that don’t quite fit our preferences and presuppositions. In an attempt to simplify, we force the Bible’s cacophony of voices into a single tone and turn a complicated, beautiful, and diverse holy text into a list of bullet points we can put in a manifesto or creed. More often than not, we end up more committed to what we want the Bible to say than what it actually says. Nowhere is this more evident than in conversations surrounding “biblical womanhood.” Growing up in the Bible Belt, I received a lot of mixed messages about the appropriate roles of women in the home, the church and society, each punctuated with the claim that this or that lifestyle represented true “biblical womanhood.” In my faith community, popular women pastors such as Joyce Meyer were considered unbiblical for preaching from the pulpit in violation of the apostle Paul's restriction in 1 Timothy 2:12 ("I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent"). Pastors told wives to submit to their husbands as the apostle Peter instructed in 1 Peter 3:1. Despite the fact that being single was praised by both Jesus and Paul, I learned early on that marriage and motherhood were my highest callings, and that Proverbs 31 required I keep a home as tidy as June Cleaver's. This didn’t really trouble me until adulthood, when I found myself in a childless egalitarian marriage with a blossoming career and an interest in church leadership and biblical studies. As I wrestled with what it meant to be a woman of faith, I realized that, despite insistent claims that we don’t “pick and choose” from the Bible, any claim to a “biblical” lifestyle requires some serious selectivity. After all, technically speaking, it is “biblical” for a woman to be sold by her father to pay off debt, “biblical” for a woman to be required to marry her rapist, “biblical” for her to be one of many wives. So why are some Bible passages lifted out and declared “biblical,” while others are explained away or simply ignored? Does the Bible really present a single prescriptive lifestyle for all women? http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/17/my-take-the-danger-of-calling-behavior-biblical/?hpt=hp_c3
Monday, November 19, 2012 10:06 AM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, November 19, 2012 11:13 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: ...or is there something else at work?
Monday, November 19, 2012 11:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I don't use the "one man one woman thousands of years" statement, because it doesn't quite hold up when phrased that way.
Monday, November 19, 2012 1:36 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Monday, November 19, 2012 2:48 PM
OONJERAH
Monday, November 19, 2012 4:45 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:02 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: I like bacon, oppose gay marriage, don't think creationism should be taught in science class, believe God created the heavens and the earth, enjoy working on the sabbath, but oppose polygamy. I'm pretty sure that all makes me a moderate on the whole old testiment biblical thing. Oh, and 'thou shalt not kill unless somebody is trying to kill thou or break into thine home to taketh thy Playstation' (its a loose translation). H Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:11 AM
CANTTAKESKY
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Is it the power of men in the Church that allows them to pick and choose what to preach, as a way of exercising control over their flock, or is there something else at work?
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by canttakesky: Anyone who pretends to follow the whole Bible literally, without picking and choosing, is lying.
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:06 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:33 PM
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