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J.J. Abrams to direct next "STAR WARS" flick

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Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:10 PM

WHOZIT


http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/j-j-abrams-to-direct-new-star-wars-mov
ie-for-disney


He'd better hit a home run with this flick, I thought the "STAR TREK" reboot was just so-so.


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Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:50 PM

BYTEMITE


Ha, tvtropes already picked up that scoop. Wikieditors are fast.

So long as he keeps Star Wars light-hearted with character focus, should be okay. Snarky world-wise smugglers/mentor figures paired up with wide-eyed idealists, sprinkle with mysticism and glow sticks, and you got yourself a flick. Plus Abrams is a friend of Whedon, so I don't see problems here.

Something tells me the Star Trek fans and Star Wars fans are about to collide in a serious way. Start saying that his work on one franchise is detracting from the other. Well, no love lost between those crowds.


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Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:24 PM

ECGORDON

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If he does the same sort of job on SW that he did on Trek, then I guess that's one more movie I won't bother watching. :)

Then again, he couldn't do much worse than what Lucas did with the last three.



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Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:07 PM

STORYMARK


Sounds good to me. I think its a great Fit!




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Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:35 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


This really is more about the writing than the directing, but I think JJ is probably the best director for the job.

And what was wrong with his Star Trek ? I'm not a trek fan so maybe I'm immune to the subtleties but really given the usual rubbish that Star Trek films are, his was oscar worthy!


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Friday, January 25, 2013 3:38 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Great, he helped ruined Star Trek and now can do the same for Star Wars. At least it was not Bay.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 4:06 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Hey M52NICKERSON.

I just wanted to ask because I'm genuinely confused. Was his Star Trek really that bad to Trek fans? Because I honestly thought it was way better than any of the previous star trek films. (apart from Wrath of Khan)

So to an uninitiated Star trek viewer can you or someone else please point out why it was so bad? And why you think he ruined it?

I'm not trying to be confrontation by the way, I'm just curious.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 6:24 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Great, he helped ruined Star Trek



If by "ruined" you mean "made the most popular film in the entire series - which a relative few oldschool fans hate" then, sure.

Ill admit the script for Star Trek was weak, but that had a lot to do with the strike at the time. I thought he nailed the characterizations, myself.

And really - my biggest problem with it was that it felt too much like.... a Star Wars film. So, his moving on to Star Wars proper seems like a hell of a good fit to me.




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Friday, January 25, 2013 6:26 AM

ZEEK


Well I have been boycotting him for the disaster that was Lost. Even though he really wasn't at the reigns. He still tacked his name to it and didn't step in to fix it. I may have to go against my own values for Star Wars though.

As long as he doesn't make a movie full of loose ends and plot holes he's probably not a terrible choice. They need to cut him off at some point though. Alias really got convoluted and ridiculous when they kept giving him more seasons. Give him one movie or maybe one trilogy and then find someone new.

In the end I'm more concerned with the continuity with the expanded universe. If they disregard the books I'll be pretty disappointed.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 7:56 AM

STORYMARK


Alias (and to an extent Lost) were both hobbled by idiotic network mandates.

Of course, I think its beyond hyperbolic to call either a disaster anyway (though I get the animosity towards Lost - I just dont share it).




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Friday, January 25, 2013 8:56 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Great, he helped ruined Star Trek



If by "ruined" you mean "made the most popular film in the entire series - which a relative few oldschool fans hate" then, sure.

Ill admit the script for Star Trek was weak, but that had a lot to do with the strike at the time. I thought he nailed the characterizations, myself.

And really - my biggest problem with it was that it felt too much like.... a Star Wars film. So, his moving on to Star Wars proper seems like a hell of a good fit to me.






I didn't see the Star Trek movie, but my understanding was that the oldschool fans didn't like it as much because it wasn't so philosophical and ponderous, more action.

And that basically describes Star Wars in a nutshell, so... I'm with Story here.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 8:57 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Bah. I was hopeful they would hand this to Joss after the success of Avengers. If anyone can restore the shattered legacy of Star Wars, I think it would be him. I'm less cray about Abrams; don't hate him, but don't think he's the best man for the job.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 8:58 AM

BYTEMITE


Since I mentioned the tvtropes:

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Contrary to popular misbelief, his involvement in LOST is extremely marginal: He was asked to help fleshing out a concept for a show when the guy who had the initial idea (then ABC chairman Lloyd Braun) was not happy with what the first guy asked to flesh out the concept (Jeffrey Lieber) had come up with. Abrams was never really committed to the show, and had another (rejected) pilot called The Catch that he was already working on, so another guy (Damon Lindelof) was hired to flesh out the concept for the show together with Abrams (they threw everything Lieber had previously come up with out of the window, effectively leaving only Braun's initial idea intact. Regardless, Lieber was later granted a ridiculous 60% creator's credit after taking legal action). Abrams wrote and directed the pilot and then went off to direct Mission Impossible III just as the first season was taking off, arguably similar to his abandonment of Alias for Lost. Lindelof, suddenly left alone with the Showrunner burden, considered quitting too, but was convinced by his former co-writer (Carlton Cuse) to stay. Cuse then joined the show as a second showrunner, and has been pulling the strings together with Lindelof ever since.

Abrams later briefly returned and wrote the season 3 premiere together with Lindelof, but apparently realized the show really wasn't for him. Regardless, he's still officially credited as an executive producer as of season 6 (the final season), even though he has repeatedly confirmed in interviews that he has nothing to do with the show anymore, and all he really does is approve everything Lindelof and Cuse come up with. (Lindelof even once joked that Jimmy Kimmel knows more about LOST than Abrams does.)

Now, guess who both the mainstream media and casual viewers still constantly refer to as the "mastermind" behind LOST. Hint: This article is about him.




http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/JJAbrams?from=Main.JJAbr
ams

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Friday, January 25, 2013 9:22 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
Hey M52NICKERSON.

I just wanted to ask because I'm genuinely confused. Was his Star Trek really that bad to Trek fans? Because I honestly thought it was way better than any of the previous star trek films. (apart from Wrath of Khan)

So to an uninitiated Star trek viewer can you or someone else please point out why it was so bad? And why you think he ruined it?

I'm not trying to be confrontation by the way, I'm just curious.

°...Well here I am.°



I know I'm in the minority for not liking the new Star Trek.

Storymark stated one of the problems. While the film was popular it was not a Star Trek film. It did not even look like a Star Trek film. Star Trek was almost always more about tackling ethical and moral questions than it was about action. The new movie changed that even more that some of the other movies in the series did.

Plus popular does not mean good! If it did we would all be discussing season 10 of Firefly right now.

One of my biggest problems with it is that it is a re-boot which seemed to go out of it's way to destroy the old Trek story line. Had it been a straight re-boot that would have been fine, but no it used a shitty time travel device to de away with the history of all the other series and movies.

Next you have the fact that bright lights and flashy CGI were more important to the film than any type of science. I know Trek has often mangled science in its story telling, but this movie does not even try. It all starts with a magical super nova which threatens Romulus and no one noticed well in advance or somehow can travel faster than light. Plus...Red Matter.

I could go on about how the new Enterprises main engineering section look like a water treatment plant, or about how Abrams took the idea of lens flares to a ridiculous place, or how simple things like why most of Star Fleet is made up of students...but why?


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Friday, January 25, 2013 9:52 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:


One of my biggest problems with it is that it is a re-boot which seemed to go out of it's way to destroy the old Trek story line. Had it been a straight re-boot that would have been fine, but no it used a shitty time travel device to de away with the history of all the other series and movies.



No, it didn't. They specifically address it in the dialog of the film itself. Nothing is re-witten - it's a new, divergent timeline, ala the Mirror Universe.

Now, I can understand the complaints of those who felt there was a lack of the philosophical/ethical issues that Trek often deals with - but its hardly like they've done that with each and every story. Wrath of Khan was not a deep philosophical treatise, nor were many of the best episodes of all the varried series.

"Wagon-train in space" does not always require Socrates, so to speak.

Nor is it true that all old-school fans disliked the reboot. I personally know a LOT more old fans who liked the reboot than those who didn't. Which is not to dismis the complaints of those who didn't like it - but to pretend that view is anything approaching universal is simply fallacious.

Yes, it was a big, splashy adventure film - which argubly saved Trek from fading into irrelevence. The franchise as it was was running on fumes, financially and creatively. The reboot gave it a shot in the arm that was desperately needed. Something as expensive to make as Trek cannot survive by catering to a small audience exclusively.

Personally, I think Trek is better suited to TV anyway - so having Abrams move over to Star Wars strikes me as a very good thing - aside from feeling he'll make a damned good Star Wars flick - Im hoping his stepping away from the films will open the door to a new TV series. Here's hoping.




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Friday, January 25, 2013 9:57 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by m52nickerson:

Quote:

Storymark stated one of the problems. While the film was popular it was not a Star Trek film. It did not even look like a Star Trek film. Star Trek was almost always more about tackling ethical and moral questions than it was about action. The new movie changed that even more that some of the other movies in the series did.


Hey M52Nickerson. Cheers for the reply.

I see your point and no film is without fault I guess, but for me the whole Star Trek film franchise had found itself in a rut , where the same old thing was being pedalled over and over, and really for non Trek fans it had started getting really tiresome. As a sci-fi fan I found myself being overlooked, and the films as they progressed seemed more inclined to cater to the hardcore Trek fan rather than the cinema goer. Hitting the same old marks in order to appease the fan base. Perhaps that was a good thing, I don't know, but even taking this into account I can't really think the franchise was so strong in the first place for Abrams to ruin it? Was it?

Still that said I now understand why you dislike the new one. For me personally it's rekindled my interest in Star Trek, something which had pretty much disappeared after Star Trek III.

Abrams does seem to divide the cinema going public though, so I guess it's just one of those things.

Cheers for the clear up.


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Friday, January 25, 2013 10:53 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
No, it didn't. They specifically address it in the dialog of the film itself. Nothing is re-witten - it's a new, divergent timeline, ala the Mirror Universe.



Okay, I may have missed that. Again I think a clean reboot would have been better.

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Now, I can understand the complaints of those who felt there was a lack of the philosophical/ethical issues that Trek often deals with - but its hardly like they've done that with each and every story. Wrath of Khan was not a deep philosophical treatise, nor were many of the best episodes of all the varried series.

"Wagon-train in space" does not always require Socrates, so to speak.



Your right not every show or movie did. Wrath of Khan did have some questions about creating life with the Genesis device. Plus it's action was about as far from the new move as you could get. The slow "submarine" battle in Wrath of Khan was the best.

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Nor is it true that all old-school fans disliked the reboot. I personally know a LOT more old fans who liked the reboot than those who didn't. Which is not to dismis the complaints of those who didn't like it - but to pretend that view is anything approaching universal is simply fallacious.



I never said otherwise. I know I'm in the minorty.

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Yes, it was a big, splashy adventure film - which argubly saved Trek from fading into irrelevence. The franchise as it was was running on fumes, financially and creatively. The reboot gave it a shot in the arm that was desperately needed. Something as expensive to make as Trek cannot survive by catering to a small audience exclusively.



Well perhaps it was time for it to go. I'm not a big fan of keeping things going if it means gutting what it once was. Even if you wanted an action film to get newer and younger fans it still did not have to be one with plot problems and an overall crappy story line.

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Personally, I think Trek is better suited to TV anyway - so having Abrams move over to Star Wars strikes me as a very good thing - aside from feeling he'll make a damned good Star Wars flick - Im hoping his stepping away from the films will open the door to a new TV series. Here's hoping.



Perhaps. I will not hold my breath. It will not only depend on Abrams as a director but will also depend on the script. If it is just another generic action movie with a Star Wars costume on I will be disapointed.

Maybe at this point i'm just old a grizzled. Remember I'm the person that does not want a Firefly reboot. Perhaps I will just stick with Dr. Who these days.




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Friday, January 25, 2013 11:08 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:

Well perhaps it was time for it to go. I'm not a big fan of keeping things going if it means gutting what it once was. Even if you wanted an action film to get newer and younger fans it still did not have to be one with plot problems and an overall crappy story line.



Well, you know there was a writer's strike, right? And "gutting what it once was" is still the minority opinion. I don't feel it was guttet in the least - it was just, at worst, focusing on an aspect that was always there - just not the aspect you persoanlly wanted the focus to be on.

But yes, a lot relies on the script. And this one is being written by a guy who won the Oscar for his very first script, and isn't known for turning out generic stuff of any genre... Thus, I think its a bit premature to assume the script will be that.




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Friday, January 25, 2013 11:08 AM

BYTEMITE


Eh, the script from what I hear is something to do with a new character who's supposed to be Luke's daughter (something I'm not too excited about yet) and ignores the EU, which is good and bad.

The EU is convoluted to excess and I stopped reading stories when two of the main authors started having an ego contest killing off each other's characters. On the other hand some of the EU stories are gold and would be perfect for a movie adaption, to the point where you can not only visualize it but also hear the soundtrack.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 11:11 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Eh, the script from what I hear is something to do with a new character who's supposed to be Luke's daughter (something I'm not too excited about yet) and ignores the EU, which is good and bad.



Anything you've heard about the script is pure speculation. Nothing has been released, at all.

Which is not to say it couldn't be that (I think its a safe guess to think they'll stick to the Skywalkers to some degree), but its ALL speculation right now.




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Friday, January 25, 2013 11:54 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Well, you know there was a writer's strike, right?



Yes, but a director like Abrams has enough say to get some things changed, which he should have. More so because he is a writter. Strike or not in the end the movie that got made was lacking.

So far the only thing that Abrams has been a part of that I really liked was Armageddon.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 1:52 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
If he does the same sort of job on SW that he did on Trek, then I guess that's one more movie I won't bother watching. :)

Then again, he couldn't do much worse than what Lucas did with the last three.





He could only massively improve what Lucas has done since the early 80's, imo.

But when you turn a warehouse into a iconic starship's engine room, and it still LOOKS like a warehouse... color me not so impressed.

I'm hopeful.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 2:52 PM

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My main complaints against Abrams' Trek has very little to do with the changes to Trek continuity and characters, and almost everything to do with the fact it had a weak script that was poorly acted, no logical character development, and a preponderance of action and flashy CGI to try to hide all its faults.

I'm a semi-Trekkie, not a fanatic about the franchise. I like TOS, most of TNG and DS9. There have been quite a few bad Trek films (and a couple of the series I can do without as well). But Star Trek 2009 was simply a bad movie, period.






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Friday, January 25, 2013 6:21 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Well, you know there was a writer's strike, right?



Yes, but a director like Abrams has enough say to get some things changed, which he should have. More so because he is a writter.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



Thats not how it works. The script they had when the strike started is what they had to shoot. Making changes was simply not allowed.




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Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:32 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Originally posted by Storymark:
Thats not how it works. The script they had when the strike started is what they had to shoot. Making changes was simply not allowed.



No, he chose not to. While it would have pissed off the union he and the writers were members and could have made changes. Thing is the most Abrams has expressed that he wanted to change where some lines. So the overall script that was competed before the strike was what they wanted.

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Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:09 AM

WHOZIT


I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamill and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?

STAR WARS Episode VII: Return of the Fat Old Jedi who is now doing Cartoon Voices for Scale.

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Monday, January 28, 2013 6:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamilton and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?

STAR WARS Episode VII: Return of the Fat Old Jedi who is now doing Cartoon Voices for Scale.



Do you remember the original Star Wars? Obiwan and Darth Vader looked like they were trying to swat flies with desk lamps. An old jedi master doesn't have to be lean and mean. Grant Luke is pretty much a badass in the expanded universe well into old age. I still think they could bring him in to be more of a mentor than an active combatant.

Han Solo is more difficult in that regard. I guess they can still have him pilot the Falcon, but it gets a little ridiculous trying to picture him being an active scoundrel at Harrison Ford's age.

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Monday, January 28, 2013 8:16 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamilton and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?




Im pretty sure Disney can afford a gym and a few personal trainers, should they decide to use those actors.

And they've already been pretty clear that new characters would be the focus, and anyone showing up from the older films would be smaller roles, so you unpucker.



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Monday, January 28, 2013 8:28 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Thats not how it works. The script they had when the strike started is what they had to shoot. Making changes was simply not allowed.



No, he chose not to. While it would have pissed off the union he and the writers were members and could have made changes. Thing is the most Abrams has expressed that he wanted to change where some lines. So the overall script that was competed before the strike was what they wanted.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



Again, not how it works. Sure, he could have made changes against the stike, and thus been kicked out of the guild, and had the signatory status removed for both his production company and the studio - which then would invalidate writer's contracts on other projects.

Just becuase you *think* he could have - doesn't make it so.





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Saturday, February 2, 2013 4:42 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamilton and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?




Im pretty sure Disney can afford a gym and a few personal trainers, should they decide to use those actors.

And they've already been pretty clear that new characters would be the focus, and anyone showing up from the older films would be smaller roles, so you unpucker.



Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



New charcters...GREAT IDEA! Jar Jar Binks went over so well In my opinion (which is always brilliant) Lucas is out of ideas and dumped it, episodes 1 thru 3 have been panned by the hard core fans, If episodes 7 thru 9 look like bland reboots, J.J. and Disney will be skinned.

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
Hey M52NICKERSON.

I just wanted to ask because I'm genuinely confused. Was his Star Trek really that bad to Trek fans? Because I honestly thought it was way better than any of the previous star trek films. (apart from Wrath of Khan)

So to an uninitiated Star trek viewer can you or someone else please point out why it was so bad? And why you think he ruined it?

I'm not trying to be confrontation by the way, I'm just curious.

°...Well here I am.°




Then you are going to absolutely LOVE "Into Darkness".

I'm not being snarky.

I just got to see it, and it's pretty amazeballs.

I'm a Trek fan (not a full-on Trekkie, but I've watched since the original series originally aired), and I think JJ Abrams is the best thing to happen to the franchise since the originals. He "gets" the Trek universe, he keeps the smart-assery and snarkiness that we're used to from Kirk, Bones, and Scotty, he throws in lots of nods to original Trek episodes and characters (Mud, anyone? Tribbles, perchance?), plus he way amps up the action and suspense, and manages to do so while staying true to the material AND completely re-imagining it and making it new.

So yeah, I was fairly blown away.

If he can do half as much with the Star Wars franchise, it may go some way towards obliterating the damage done by those blights that are the three prequels.



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Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


So then, will all future Star Wars films take place on Earth, with an occasional jaunt off to "Space" or the "Stars", like all of the Star Trek films now need to be?

How boring.
Somebody should sent him the definition of "Star" because Earth isn't one and Sol doesn't realy count among warring or trekking concepts.

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Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:10 AM

WISHIMAY

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Kwicko was smoking something, Wrath of Khan was contrived, had an easy out every five freaking seconds because they were to lazy to bother to think about writing, and the main moments meant NOTHING. "I'm Khan! Ooookey, SO WHAT? There's no point of reference to why we should care...
Yeah, I'm scared for Star Wars...

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Monday, March 24, 2014 11:11 AM

ZEEK


I'm scared by the recent rumors that the protagonist is not going to be a Skywalker or a Solo. Any other force user just seems like they would pale in comparison to a descendant of Anakin Skywalker. The reasoning is what makes it gross. The rumor is the reason behind it is to get a more diverse cast. That's a great goal and all but story comes first IMO. If you want a non-white protagonist why not just have Luke's wife be some other race and their child can be mixed race. Easy peasy and the story doesn't have to suffer.

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Monday, March 24, 2014 6:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Great. Like that jar-jar character went over sooooo well. More PC is exactly what SW needs, as long as they never leave Earth for more than a few hours.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:01 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Is there any truth to the rumor that Kim Kardashian has been cast in the role of Jabba's revenge-seeking daughter Bertha The Slutt?

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