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The Pope bugs out.
Monday, February 11, 2013 9:09 AM
OLDENGLANDDRY
Monday, February 11, 2013 9:59 AM
BYTEMITE
Monday, February 11, 2013 11:34 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
HERO
Monday, February 11, 2013 11:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Not exactly a spooky prediction, Byte. First pope to resign in 600 years. Not a bad thing really, for the CEO of a multi billion dollar industry to not pretend to hang on to power while he declines.
Monday, February 11, 2013 1:13 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Monday, February 11, 2013 1:33 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Monday, February 11, 2013 2:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by GEEZER: Apparently, pretty much all the Cardinals that will choose the next Pope were appointed bt either John Paul or Benedict XVI, so I wouldn't expect them to choose anyone very liberal for the next Pontif.
Monday, February 11, 2013 2:56 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, February 11, 2013 6:19 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, February 11, 2013 11:17 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I didn't know popes could retire like that, I thought they had to be pope until they died or unless someone gets all the cardinals to kick him out/impeach him. I remember when he started as Pope he was reluctant, I don't think he ever really wanted the job. Neither would I. Goodness knows I'm no saint, and no pope either. I'm not even willing to be a pastor's wife, no thanks, too many people watching you and expecting too much of you, no one's perfect.
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:07 PM
Quote:There is growing disquiet among senior members of the church, which has itself been rocked by child abuse scandals, that the disgraced late TV presenter’s name remains on the list of recipients of one of the highest awards the Pope can bestow. The Archbishop of Westminster, the Most Reverend Vincent Nichols, has now written to Rome asking whether Savile’s Papal knighthood can be annulled in recognition of his victims’ “deep distress”. Church sources said there was no established process to remove a Papal honour posthumously because the award dies with the recipient. However, senior Roman Catholic clergy in Britain feel that the Vatican should look at whether it can do something to recognise its disgust at the “deeply shocking” series of allegations of child sexual abuse made against the former Jim’ll Fix It presenter. There is no guarantee that the church will be able to remove the honour and no fixed timetable for Rome to reply to the Archbishop of Westminster. A source said: “The honour itself goes when the person dies but nevertheless it would appear on Papal honours lists. I don’t know if you remove it entirely or whether there is an asterisk to say, ‘well, actually…’” It is thought that a Papal knighthood has never previously been removed posthumously. “It would be very, very rare if not unprecedented,” a source said. Savile, who described himself as a devout Catholic, was made a Knight Commander of St Gregory the Great by Pope John Paul II in 1990 for his charity work. The honour is awarded to Catholics, and on occasion non-Catholics, who have demonstrated “pre-eminent” service to their faith, community, or the work of the Vatican. Other recipients have included Rupert Murdoch, the billionaire media tycoon, Sir Matt Busby, the former Manchester United Manager, and John Hume, the Nobel Peace Prize-winning Northern Ireland politician. A spokesman for the Archbishop of Westminster said: “The Archbishop of Westminster, the Most Reverend Vincent Nichols, wrote last week to the Holy See asking the competent office to investigate whether the Papal Honour awarded to Jimmy Savile for his charitable works could be posthumously removed and its effects nullified, recognising the deep distress of all those who have suffered abuse and the disquiet at Mr Savile’s name remaining on Papal Honours lists. “While the outcome of the current police investigation is awaited, the allegations of abuse are deeply shocking and our thoughts go first to all those who have been abused. The Church invites all those who have suffered abuse to come forward to the appropriate authorities.” There have also been calls for the UK Government to strip Savile of the British knighthood he was awarded in 1990. David Cameron, the Prime Minister, hinted earlier this month that the honour could be removed. However, the Cabinet Office said that honours ceased to exist when a person died, although there is a campaign to change the law so that they can be revoked after death. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9636594/Jimmy-Savile-Catholic-Church-seeks-to-strip-star-of-Papal-knighthood.html
Quote: Britian's top Catholic loves Jimmy Saville Knight of the Catholic Empire Cardinal, charity pay tribute to the late entertainer Jimmy?Savile Sir Jimmy Savile passed away last Saturday. The popular Catholic DJ, entertainer and philanthropist passed away at his home in Leeds just two days before his 85th birthday. His funeral was at St Anne’s Catholic Cathedral in Leeds on Wednesday. Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Britain’s most senior Catholic clergyman, spoke of his friendship with the entertainer while Tom Allen, financial trustee of Across, the charity that takes seriously ill or disabled pilgrims to Lourdes by Jumbulance, said he had been a patron of the charity and was a great loss. “My friendship with Jimmy Savile developed over many years since I was assistant priest in St Patrick’s Parish, Kilsyth, along with the parish priest, the then Fr Denis O’Connell,” Cardinal O’Brien said. ” We were always trying to fundraise, not only for the parish, but for a variety of local and national charities and Father Denis had got to know Jimmy quite simply because of Jimmy’s mother, ‘The Duchess.’ It was Jimmy’s fond mother who attributed the healing of Jimmy when an infant to her prayers to the Venerable Margaret Sinclair, a young Scottish nun.” The cardinal also spoke of the entertainer’s work with Across. Mr Allen from the charity said: “We were saddened to hear of the death of Jimmy Savile who had a long connection with the Across Trust and Across. Jimmy launched the first Jumbulance to the press in June 1973. At the launch he introduced the Across Trust to the Green Shield Trading Stamp Company that donated 60p to charities for every complete book of stamps. Many thousands of pounds were to be raised for the trust in this way.” Mr Allen said Mr Savile had been delighted to become a patron of the charity and contributed to its success greatly. “He provided his image on promotional posters and his voice in films and videos, until his retirement at the 25th London Jumboball in 1998,” he said. “Throughout that time, he allowed the trust to use his name and his influence to obtain the support of the media, the public, and through his long-running show Jim’ll Fix It, the schools and schoolchildren. In 1981 he featured an Alligator Jumbulance on the show.” In 2001, when the Across Trust ceased to operate, Across Scotland used its status as a separate Scottish charity to launch an appeal for funds to enable the Jumbulance service to be continued to which Mr Savile was a generous donor. In a few months the appeal raised enough to buy two of the Across Trust Jumbulances and the pilgrimages to Lourdes were able to continue. The first went out at Easter 2002. Across Scotland changed its name to Across in 2007 and Mr Allen recalled that Mr Savile was very much part of the relaunch. “We took delivery of a new Jumbulance,” he recalled. “Jimmy was prominent at its launch in April 2007 when it was dedicated to the memory of the late Pope John Paul II by Cardinal Keith O’Brien at St Mary’s Cathedral in Edinburgh. He joined the ceremony in his own inimitable way, making a speech at the cathedral Mass, extolling the work of Across.” Born on October 31, 1926 in Leeds, Jimmy Saville was the youngest of seven children born to Agnes Monica (Kelly) and Vincent Joseph Marie Savile. He began his career as a DJ and worked for Radio Luxembourg before moving to BBC Radio One. He later hosted the first episode of Top of the Pops before hosting Jim’ll Fix It for 20 years—a show which granted wishes for more than 1500 children. He was also a wrestler and ran in more than 200 marathons to raise funds for good causes. Known for his trademark tracksuit, glitzy jewellery, sunglasses and wild hairstyles he lived with his mother until her death in 1973. Although wealthy, he gave away nine tenths of his income to two charitable trusts and latterly, became famous for his charity fundraising and volunteer work. He received many awards and honours throughout his life including the OBE, the Papal Knight Commander of St Gregory the Great (KCSG), and became a Knight of Malta. www.sconews.co.uk/news/13832/scottish-catholic-jimmy-savile/
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