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Pope Francis explains name, calls for church 'for the poor'
Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:27 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The new pope gave an insight into his choice of the name Francis in an audience with journalists Saturday -- and said how he wished for a church that was both poor and "for the poor." His words came in his first meeting with the media since he became the only Jesuit and first Latin American to be chosen as leader of the Roman Catholic Church three days ago. Francis, who before he became pope was known as Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, said a fellow cardinal from Brazil had told him "don't forget the poor" as the votes stacked up in his favor. This thought stuck in his mind, Francis said, as it became clear that he had won the two-thirds majority that meant he was the new pontiff. "Right away, with regard to the poor, I thought of St. Francis of Assisi, then I thought of war," he told the assembled journalists. "Francis loved peace and that is how the name came to me." He had also thought of St. Francis of Assisi's concern for the natural environment, he said, and how he was a "poor man, a simple man, as we would like a poor church, for the poor." St. Francis of Assisi, who gave up his own wealth and prestige, is revered among Catholics for his work with the poor. Reforms to come? Francis has already struck observers with his simple and humble style since being elected to the papacy -- and prompted speculation that he may bring in wider changes. The Vatican said Saturday that he's decided that the heads of the various Vatican offices will keep their jobs for now, but he's not making any definitive appointments. This, writes CNN Vatican analyst John Allen, who's also a correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter, is the first clear signal that he may be serious about reform. "It's customary for new popes to swiftly reconfirm the department heads who lose their positions when the previous pontificate ends, and then take his time about bringing in his team," said Allen. "The fact that Francis has not followed that path may suggest that significant personnel moves will come sooner rather than later." Francis wants "a certain period for reflection, prayer and dialogue before [making] any definitive nomination or confirmation," the Vatican statement said.More at
Quote:Pope Francis, the pontiff of firsts, breaks with tradition When Jorge Bergoglio stepped onto the balcony at the Vatican on Wednesday to reveal himself as the new leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics, he made history as the first non-European pope of the modern era, the first from Latin America, the first Jesuit and the first to assume the name Francis. The new pope then quickly made another kind of history, breaking with tradition in his first public act before the 150,000 people packed into St. Peter's Square. Rather than bless the crowd first, he asked them to pray for him. "Let us say this prayer, your prayer for me, in silence," he told the cheering crowd. The willingness by Francis to dispense with tradition was interpreted by a Vatican spokesman as a sign he will be willing to chart his own path in other ways. The pontiff also broke with another tradition by refusing to use a platform to elevate himself above the cardinals standing with him as he was introduced to the world as Pope Francis. "He said I'll stay down here," Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York and the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. "He met each of us on our own level." The 76-year-old Bergoglio, who served as the archbishop of Buenos Aires, is the first pope to take the name in honor of St. Francis of Assisi, revered among Catholics for his work with the poor. St. Francis is viewed as a reformer of the church, answering God's call to "repair my church in ruins." More at http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/world/europe/vatican-pope-selection/index.html
Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:48 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Sunday, March 17, 2013 3:17 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:04 AM
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Monday, March 18, 2013 9:02 AM
Monday, March 18, 2013 5:52 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:54 AM
Quote:Pope Francis Calls for Service to ‘Poorest, Weakest’ “Please, I would like to ask all those who have positions of responsibility in economic, political and social life, and all men and women of good will: let us be ‘protectors’ of creation, protectors of God’s plan inscribed in nature, protectors of one another and of the environment.” http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/20/world/europe/installation-of-pope-francis.html?_r=0
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:11 AM
BYTEMITE
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:25 AM
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 7:48 AM
CANTTAKESKY
Friday, March 22, 2013 11:55 PM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Saint Francis is actually the only Saint I respect. So I hope for the sake of Catholics everywhere that this pope is sincere. Because if this is just a public relations move... The end of Catholicism might be approaching. Which would be entirely deserved in my opinion. I hate the authority and power and greed invested in religion everywhere. But a crisis of faith of that magnitude, even I can't cheer that.
Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I would be quite happy to see the end of "church", as it were--as in, organized religious power, money, etc., but I wouldn't want to deprive people of faith, it can be one of the greatest things in people's lives. I definitely don't think his choice of name, OR what he's saying, is a political move. One only has to look at his entire life to see what's coming out is a perfect reflection of him, not the church. I'm willing to believe he's sincere; how EFFECTIVE, is another matter.
Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Agreed - I think they blew it myself, according to them this'll supposedly be the last Pope, and when it ain't I am sure they'll pull some oh-we-misinterpreted-that justification out of their butts... If they wanted to convince me and mine they were in any way still relevant and humane, they'd have selected a woman as Pope, and lets be honest here, it wouldn't be the first time they did - not that they like admitting this. -F
Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:40 PM
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