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Regarding the mentality about women
Monday, March 18, 2013 8:36 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:For 50+ years I've been hearing that a woman is raped every few minutes somewhere in the United States. That's millions every year...millions. How can that not be a national emergency? How can this epidemic of rape go on for 50 years? Why are women so vulnerable? Why are so many men so sick and vile? Why are good men so apathetic? The whole thing is a national disgrace.
Quote:Just - wow. A whole subculture of rape involving police, DAs, coaches, parents, and teens. It boggles my mind, and makes me wonder where you grew up. And how many places are there like that.
Quote:Female Hysteria: Female hysteria was a once-common medical diagnosis, made exclusively in women, which is today no longer recognized by modern medical authorities as a medical disorder. Its diagnosis and treatment were routine for many hundreds of years in Western Europe. Hysteria was widely discussed in the medical literature of the 19th century. Women considered to be suffering from it exhibited a wide array of symptoms including faintness, nervousness, sexual desire, insomnia, fluid retention, heaviness in abdomen, muscle spasm, shortness of breath, irritability, loss of appetite for food or sex, and "a tendency to cause trouble". The history of the notion of hysteria can be traced to ancient times; in ancient Greece it was described in the gynecological treatises of the Hippocratic corpus, which date from the 5th and 4th centuries BC. Plato's dialogue Timaeus compares a woman's uterus to a living creature that wanders throughout a woman’s body, "blocking passages, obstructing breathing, and causing disease."[2] The concept of a pathological, wandering womb was later viewed as the source of the term hysteria,[2] which stems from the Greek cognate of uterus (hystera). Another cause was thought to be the retention of female semen, thought to mingle with male semen during intercourse. This was believed to be stored in the womb. Hysteria was referred to as "the widows disease", since the female semen was believed to turn venomous if not released through regular climax or intercourse.Wiki
Quote:...bland food, bed rest, seclusion, and sensory deprivation. Physicians noticed the number of women who complained of hysteria were disproportionately single, nuns, and unhappily married women. Another prescription was marriage for single women, intercourse if married, or vaginal massage to reach hysterical paroxysm (orgasm) as a last resort.
Quote:Although there were hysterical males, attributing the condition to the female nature fit the social model of women, and validated the medical integrity of psychiatry by providing a suitable diagnosis. For hysterical women and their families, the asylum offered a convenient and socially acceptable excuse for inappropriate, and potentially scandalous behaviour. Rather than being viewed as a bad and immoral woman, honour and reputation could be maintained by the diagnosis of a medical condition and commitment to an asylum. At the London Asylum, Dr. R. Maurice Bucke adopted the popular Victorian idea that the female reproductive organs were connected to emotional and physical well-being, and were thus the most likely cause of mental illness. Combined with the accepted theory that curing the body would cure the mind, treatments for female insanity at the London Asylum were grounded in the belief that removal or correction of the afflicted organ would restore sanity. Gynaecological surgery, such as hysterectomies became a regular procedure until the end of the nineteenth century, when advances in mental health care began to turn against it. Despite criticism that referred to his procedures as "meddlesome" and the "mutilation of helpless lunatics," Dr. Bucke continued the practice at the London Asylum until his death in 1902. http://www.lib.uwo.ca/archives/virtualexhibits/londonasylum/hysteria.html
Quote:... vaginal massage could take hours. After massage devices were invented, it became much easier for vaginal massage to obtain the intended result. Until vibrators became used in offices (or even the home since this was during a time when house calls were made), massage was done by hand and later by the use of water. The 1870's brought about the invention of the vibrator and soon doctors used it instead. By the 1890's, this invention was available for home usage and the number of women being treated in that manner at the physician's office drastically declined. While physicians realized a connection between hysteria and an unhappy sex life, they remained distant enough for the connection between what they were doing and sex to keep this as a practice until fairly modern times (one source that began me on the road to writing about this idea said the 1950's).
Quote:A physician in 1859 claimed that a quarter of all women suffered from hysteria. One physician cataloged seventy-five pages of possible symptoms of hysteria and called the list incomplete;[4] almost any ailment could fit the diagnosis. Physicians thought that the stresses associated with modern life caused civilized women to be both more susceptible to nervous disorders and to develop faulty reproductive tracts.[5] In the United States, such disorders in women reaffirmed that the U.S. was on par with Europe; one American physician expressed pleasure that the country was ”catching up” to Europe in the prevalence of hysteria.[4]
Quote:The 2nd century Roman physician Galen's technique would be cited by physicians for centuries to come: "Following the remedies and arising from the touch of the genital organs required by the treatment, there followed twitchings accompanied at the same time by pain and pleasure after which she emitted turbid and abundant sperm. From that time on she was free of all the evil she felt.”
Monday, March 18, 2013 10:20 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Monday, March 18, 2013 11:11 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, March 18, 2013 11:39 AM
AGENTROUKA
Monday, March 18, 2013 11:44 AM
BYTEMITE
Monday, March 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Monday, March 18, 2013 12:30 PM
Monday, March 18, 2013 12:34 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: Niki, how dare you post an interesting thread about women in human civilization when you know how uncomfortable it makes 6ix. You're forcing him to be a troll and remind you that women consist of bodies that he looks at and that are also subject to aging. I mean, seriously, woman. Know your place. Talk about gardening or owning a house or something else he can relate to.
Monday, March 18, 2013 1:35 PM
Monday, March 18, 2013 6:05 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Monday, March 18, 2013 7:06 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote: Yup, 6ix comes about *this far* from blaming the rape victim with his bullshit about what girls wear and how scandalous it is. I wish I could say that surprises me that he thinks that way ( that if a woman is raped for wearing revealing or provocative clothing, it's her fault for making the man rape her by wearing that), but it really doesn't. At all.
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Also, the constant assault on womens personhood and rights is a push to keep them on the back foot long enough to screw up Roe vs Wade and make abortion a felony - outside of a few "examples" they'd not so much prosecute it cause that ain't how this game works, they'd let em off with probation and such supposedly out of sympathy so long as they can slap the Felony mark of doom on em you see, cause that overturns the one right at the CORE of all this that the GOP wants gone from women. THE RIGHT TO VOTE. -F
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:33 AM
Friday, March 22, 2013 10:57 AM
CANTTAKESKY
Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:33 AM
Quote:SAN JOSE, Calif. -- A female developer was fired after tweeting about a group of men she said were making sexual comments at a computer programming conference, fueling an already vigorous debate about gender equality and culture in Silicon Valley. Adria Richards wrote on her blog, butyoureagirl.com, that she was seated in a ballroom at the Santa Clara conference Sunday when the men behind her started talking about "big dongles." A dongle is a device that plugs into a computer, but Richards tweeted that the men made the comment in a sexual way. After hearing their remarks, Richards turned around, took a photo of two men and posted it on Twitter with their alleged comments. Conference organizers said they were concerned by the tweet and quickly met with Richards and the men, who immediately apologized. "We pulled all the individuals aside. We got all sides of the story. They said she was right, and they were very apologetic," said Jesse Noller, who chaired the conference, PyCon 2013, for people working on Python programming language. Richards worked for SendGrid, a technology company with offices in Orange County and Colorado. CEO Jim Franklin wrote on the company's website that SendGrid agreed with Richards' right to report the incident to Pycon staff, but not the way she reported it. "Her decision to tweet the comments and photographs of the people who made the comments crossed the line," Franklin wrote in a blog post on the site. "Publicly shaming the offenders - and bystanders - was not the appropriate way to handle the situation." Franklin said Richards put the company's business in danger, divided the developer community and could no longer be effective at the company. More at http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=9037581] She didn't even "report" them; she tweeted PUBLICLY about something that was being said PUBLICLY. On the other hand, Quote:One of the men in the photo Richards posted has also been let go from his job at San Francisco-based mobile game company PlayHaven. "PlayHaven had an employee who was identified as making inappropriate comments at PyCon, and as a company that is dedicated to gender equality and values honorable behavior, we conducted a thorough investigation. The result of this investigation led to the unfortunate outcome of having to let this employee go," PlayHaven CEO Andy Yang said in a blog posting. I find that wrong as well. If, as seems to be the case these days, questionable sexual jokes/comments/whatever are treated one of three ways, ignored completely or minimized, the person fired, or the person challenging it fired, do any of those actually IMPROVE the situation? THE MEN APOLOGIZED. In my opinion, the incident happening, being made public, the men apologizing (and hopefully learning something) was all that ever need happen. I admit firing THE WOMAN incenses me most, and of course she's getting death threats and her ability to be hired elsewhere may well be compromised, while the identities of the two men are being withheld... And, of course, the volume representing the mentality abounds: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1296838! /img/ http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1296839! /img/ (Links broken for spacing purposes)
Quote:One of the men in the photo Richards posted has also been let go from his job at San Francisco-based mobile game company PlayHaven. "PlayHaven had an employee who was identified as making inappropriate comments at PyCon, and as a company that is dedicated to gender equality and values honorable behavior, we conducted a thorough investigation. The result of this investigation led to the unfortunate outcome of having to let this employee go," PlayHaven CEO Andy Yang said in a blog posting.
Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:46 AM
Saturday, March 23, 2013 11:47 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:03 PM
AURAPTOR
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