Questions that Auraptor can't/refuses to answer by kpo

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Questions that Auraptor can't/refuses to answer

POSTED BY: KPO
UPDATED: Friday, March 22, 2013 09:40
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Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:59 PM

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

A new thread idea I've toyed with in the past, and decided to give a chance.

You know when you reach that point in a debate with Auraptor where you put a simple question to him that he can't answer? Which he squirms away from, before skulking out of the thread? I thought it'd be interesting to have a record of all the things he can't answer

It would constitute a list of all the glaring errors/contradictions in his worldview.

I'm going to put them in green, so that they're visible:

Auraptor can't answer a request to name a scientific body or institution that disputes the theory of man-made climate change.

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Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:57 PM

CHRISISALL

Since my joining this site, AU has been the ONE constant here; the most simplistically-minded and and annoying defender of the far right wing status-quo. He's basically a fucking asshole, and a major reason for me mostly leaving this site that I loved so dearly for so long.
Rappy, you won.
Enjoy it.

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Thursday, March 21, 2013 4:03 PM

MAL4PREZ

Aaaaahhhhhhh! More people leaving! Just when I've committed to come back!

Chris, you bastard!

(You know I love you in the virtual-internet-way, right?)

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Thursday, March 21, 2013 4:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Actually, I DID answer this, but kpo isn't satisfied with what I said. So this entire thread is nothing but silly, 'look at me!' grandstanding on the part of kpo. It must be Spring.

Which, btw, is freaking freezing - literally. Coldest 1st day of Spring I can recall in a long time. Dunno if it's the coldest on record, but we're under a freeze warning and a chance ( small ) of some snow flurries or sleet. I know,that's "weather" and not "climate", lol. Sure could use some global warming right about now though.

@ Chrissy - Go away, little girl. Talk radio host Dennis Prager was talking about the differences between the Right and the Left, and how they tend to disagree with each other. The Right base their objections on matters of real substance, where a the Left simply us ad hominems and personal invectives. Chris will call me a 'fucking asshole', but offer no real reasons or basis for that claim. Because I'm " consistent " ? So, anyone who doesn't agree w/ your point of view is a fucking asshole ?

Spock would find this most illogical, and unproductive, Chrissy.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 21, 2013 4:34 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Since my joining this site, AU has been the ONE constant here; the most simplistically-minded and and annoying defender of the far right wing status-quo. He's basically a fucking asshole, and a major reason for me mostly leaving this site that I loved so dearly for so long.
Rappy, you won.
Enjoy it.

Where's your thread then?

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Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:52 PM

JONGSSTRAW

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

He's basically a fucking asshole, and a major reason for me mostly leaving this site that I loved so dearly for so long.

Good to see your time away helped. You clearly seem rested and relaxed.

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Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:02 PM

PENQUIN11

What I will say about Raptor, is that he sure takes allot of crap here that he doesn't have to. Is he reactionary? Yes. But does that make him an asshole? No.

Out of respect for other members and in the interest of bettering the forum I would request that we all act like adults here, and that we refrain from tossing about personal attacks.

"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it the most?"- Mark Twain

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Friday, March 22, 2013 7:50 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

The problem that people have with rappy is not his vewpoints, it's that he can't engage in intelligent conversation. Talking to him about a whole bunch of topics is like talking to a flat-earther:

You can show him photos, you can take him on a trip around the world, you can discuss gravity and explain how it necessarily brings planet-sized chunks of matter to a roundish state, you can even ask him what it is that makes him think the earth is flat and pursue the question rigorously -

But no matter how you tackle the topic- pragmatically, observationally, theoretically, rhetorically- he just chooses to believe what he believes. Not much conversation to be had when someone refuses to consider what others have said.

Dealing with someone who is clearly not crazy-ish (like PN) but who obdurately believes crazy shit despite all evidence to the contrary causes a lot of frustration. At that point, there are only three things to do: Ignore him, laugh at him, or insult him. I'm going the way of ignoring him. There are too many interesting people here to talk to, and too many interesting things to talk about to let someone like rappy consume the board, especially since he's just here for the attention anyway.

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Friday, March 22, 2013 8:03 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

1 small problem... AGW isn't proven or anything we can alter.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 22, 2013 8:07 AM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by penquin11:
What I will say about Raptor, is that he sure takes allot of crap here that he doesn't have to. Is he reactionary? Yes. But does that make him an asshole? No.

Out of respect for other members and in the interest of bettering the forum I would request that we all act like adults here, and that we refrain from tossing about personal attacks.

"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it the most?"- Mark Twain

Yeah, new folks all go through this phase with Rappy. Stick around, you'll eventually see what we mean.

And don't worry, the name-calling doesn't bother him. He likes it. His primary goal is to push buttons and get attention, so getting called names is like Mission Accomplished for him.

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Friday, March 22, 2013 8:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

OTOH I don't mind talking ABOUT rapppy, so here is another question he never answered. But there is a shaggy-dog story behind it, here it is:

Rappy was insisting, as he is wont to do, that the UN Resolution 1441 gave the USA carte blanche to invade Iraq because it mentioned Resolution 678 which had authorized member states to use all necessary means to ensure compliance.

[Back in the day when I tried reasonable talk with rappy] I tried telling rappy that UN resolutions did not have infinite lifetime, that new resolutions superseded old ones, and that mentioning previous resolutions did not keep them in force, it was simply a way of referencing all previous resolutions being superseded. Rappy, as usual, failed to understand. So I rather pointedly asked him if he knew what the word "supersede" meant.

Of course, he never answered.

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Friday, March 22, 2013 8:20 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

CHRIS!!!!! DAMMIT, man, I miss you soooo bloody much, I wish you hadn't left/wouldn't leave! Can't you just ignore the idjit and be here with the rest of us?

Sorry...since quitting my meds, the one thing I'm struggling with is frustration; it goes from 0-10 in a micro-second and comes right out my mouth. I'm letting the above stand because that's my reaction; I was just THINKING about you a few minutes ago, and here you are, and there it is.

It's of course your choice to come, go, stay, leave, etc. I just want you to know that I, for one, miss you HORRIBLY, like at least a couple of times a DAY when I post/read here, and wish to shit you wouldn't let yourself get run off. Now I'll return to trying to post reasonably; at least you know.

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Friday, March 22, 2013 8:24 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Quote:
Actually, I DID answer this

Yes, I saw your response where you explained why, in your opinion, you shouldn't have to answer the question. But so far you still haven't named a scientific body or institution that disputes the theory of man-made climate change. So this is undeniably correct:

Upon request, Auraptor can't name a scientific body or institution that disputes the theory of man-made climate change.

Agreed?

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, March 22, 2013 8:24 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by penquin11:
What I will say about Raptor, is that he sure takes allot of crap here that he doesn't have to. Is he reactionary? Yes. But does that make him an asshole? No.

You really havn't been here long enough to understand how huge of an asshole he is.

Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, March 22, 2013 8:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

On the subject of the thread, I, too, would like an answer to the question KPO posed, and feel exactly the same about the lack of response. I also agree that "the most simplistically-minded and and annoying defender of the far right wing status-quo", but he doesn't piss me off as much as he does others and I don't consider him an asshole, just really, really sad in how brainwashed he is and how, literally, "he can't engage in intelligent conversation" and everything else Sig wrote in that post. I found Rap, more than anything else on earth, a source of FRUSTRATION, not hate, and now make a serious effort not to even attempt to communicate with him because of it.

And yes, Penguin, what Mal4 said; I spent an enormous amount of time trying to communicate with Rap before I finally "got it" and stopped. Frustration naturally leads to anger, and for me at least, that's behind my unwillingness to engage him and my chosen option of mocking him. Ironically, Rap and I communicate like great friends when it comes to a number of other subjects, but when it comes to ANY views held by the "right", there can be no communication whatsoever...if global warming weren't a political hot potato, it's even possible he'd believe in it. But if anything involves a belief on the right, it canNOT be valid in his world and there can be no communication with him. If you bother to hang around long enough, you'll learn for yourself.

As to your pleas for civility here, all I can suggest is you give them up right now. Numerous people have made such pleas; they are merely a waste of time you'll never get back. You will be told off, told you are trying to "control" everyone, and become a target for some of the worst "incivility" humanly possible, I guarantee it. Spare yourself all that, please; I'd like to see you stick around and not be driven off as so many others who have tried to appeal to the humanity of RWED have been. I'll give you a hint; Chris used to be one of, if not THE, kindest, most civil posters here, people would remark on how gentle he was. Does that tell you something?

I will state that, until and unless Rap actually ANSWERS the question KPO posed and I and others have posed repeatedly, or posts a link to where he already did answer it, anything he writes stating he at some time DID answer it is bullshit. I have no memory of ever seeing a valid contradiction of the proof of global warming from him, and I don't believe he's ever offered one.

Lastly, I think this thread is a bad idea and will TRY not to respond in it further. I don't hate Rap, I've been the focus of nasty threads aimed at me and don't wish to further one aimed at anyone else. Doesn't mean I WON'T respond, but I will certainly try not to.

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Friday, March 22, 2013 9:02 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Yeah I'm still in two minds about this thread tbh. I didn't mean it to be a catty personal attack thread, but in a way it kind of inherently is...

And hmm, I see that the edit thread title function is gone from the site. Well, I'm still interested in my experiment so I'm going to start a new thread - that's about right-wingers generally, but not Auraptor specifically. I think dropping his name from the thread title will make it less of a personal attack thread. We'll see how it goes.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, March 22, 2013 9:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Thanx, KPO, I for one appreciate that. While Rap may be our best example, the problem holds true enough to be interesting for any who would take up the challenge.

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