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It's a Catholic Thing
Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:37 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote: GALWAY: A senior midwife told an Indian woman her baby could not be terminated as she miscarried in an Irish hospital because "It's a Catholic thing", an inquest has heard. Mrudula Vasealli said her friend Savita Halappanavar pleaded for her baby's heartbeat to be stopped when medical staff at Galway University Hospital said the foetus could not be saved. Savita said, 'I can't take this waiting for the baby to die.' Mrudula Vasealli "She said, the midwife, 'We do not do that here dear. It's a Catholic thing"', Ms Vasealli told Galway Coroners Court. "The nurses were lovely, They took good care of her. It's the system that was wrong." Ms Halappanavar, 31, died from septicaemia on October 28, a week after she was admitted suffering from a miscarriage 17 weeks into her pregnancy. Ms Vasealli and friends were at the hospital when Ms Halappanavar's husband Praveen was told she was suffering multi-organ failure and died from a heart attack. "Somebody said Praveen collapsed," she said. "He was brought to the lobby. He was vomiting there. He couldn't walk. After about half an hour we all went home." Praveen Halappanavar previously told the inquest his Hindu wife asked for a termination three times before she finally delivered her dead baby daughter four days earlier. Consultant obstetrician Katherine Astbury has denied his claims that she refused a termination on the grounds that it is "a Catholic country". Ms Vasealli spent the day with Ms Halappanavar on the Tuesday before her death. Ms Vasealli said in her statement which was read in the court: "Savita was very upset again because the foetal heartbeat was still there. She cried, saying 'What kind of mother am I waiting for my own baby to stop it's heartbeat? I'm losing it, I'm losing it terribly.' " She told coroner Ciaran MacLoughlin that her friend cried continuously as a midwife checked again for a heartbeat between 11.30am and noon. "We both, Savita and I, asked if there was a possibility of saving the baby because there was still a heartbeat after three days," she said. "Savita said 'Can you please save it. If you can't do something to stop the foetal heartbeat, I can't take this waiting for the baby to die.' " The court was adjourned while barristers for the hospital attempted to identify the staff member by her description and the roster. Declan Buckley, senior counsel, said the "best guess" the hospital could make was that the woman was clinical midwife manager Ann Maria Burke, whose statement makes no reference to the allegation. The coroner ordered that Ms Burke be added to the list of witnesses to be called. Ms Halappanavar carried the baby until the Wednesday but by that night she was in critical condition in intensive care, where she died the following Sunday. Earlier family friend Rupanjali Kundu, a senior house officer in obstetrics at the hospital, said she visited Ms Halappanavar on the Monday and Wednesday when she noticed a significant change in her health. "She was lying on the bed and she was unable to speak that much," she said. "She looked really ill. It was a significant change." The inquest continues. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/its-a-catholic-thing-abortion-inquest-told-20130410-2hk69.html#ixzz2Q0nPaaWp
Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:22 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, April 9, 2013 4:11 PM
DREAMTROVE
Tuesday, April 9, 2013 4:57 PM
Tuesday, April 9, 2013 5:02 PM
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Tuesday, April 9, 2013 6:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: All information available does not seem to indicate any truth to your story, DT.
Quote: Appears that the couple had been living in Ireland for several years, that the mother wanted the baby, but only sought termination after being told it would not survive. Love to see your cites.
Tuesday, April 9, 2013 6:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: If I had to venture a theory, I'd suggest a less scrupulous soul put her up to it.
Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:03 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:22 AM
Quote:This is how the Indians lie and scam... In Ireland an indian woman Savita Halappanavar was pregnant and then 'suddenly suffered' from a ruptured placenta etc ~ an absolutely sure sign of a backstreet attempt to kill the child. This is a week after she had tests to check the sex of the child. She went to the Irish govt health and asked for an abortion, but in ireland you cant have one if the fetus is alive. By now she was sick so couldn't get out to have the usual abortion that is routine for all Indian woman. So she killed herself. This then reignited the debate over legalizing abortion in Ireland. Enter the mother. Now her daughters dead, the daughters husband gets the dowry as inheritance. So the mother is whinging and wants 'compensation' Enter the husband. He also extends out his beggar hands to demand an enquiry and get 'compensation' Neither want the daughter back or really care much about why she died but somehow its everyone else's ' fault'. Facts are Indian woman attempting self induced abortions by rupturing the placenta (usually by techniques of applying rapid pressure and shock to kill the baby like this) are COMMON. And Savita died of ecoli and blood poisoning that was self induced, whether the baby was aborted or not would make no difference at all. This Indians in our society and how they behave. Everyone else has to be blamed, they lie, they deceive, half truth of everything. And always the hand goes out to steal. This is why they are so disliked.
Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:52 AM
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Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:35 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Beware. This is the kind of thing that will happen in the US if you allow the anti abortionists to continue to gain hand in policy making.
Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:21 AM
Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:45 AM
Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:41 AM
PHOENIXROSE
You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I would really, sincerely, like to read any links DT has to what he put up...? If he can't offer any backup, I'm afraid that for me this puts into question anything and everything DT posts in future. He's made many, many posts about historical facts and such, and I've respected his arguments--NOT all the time, I freely grant, but at least half of the time. Now I'm wondering if I should EVER give credence to what he offers, and I'm asking him to please provide cites or links or something to what he wrote here.
Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:42 AM
Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Yeah, Magons; I almost wanted to offer an apology for putting up such a string of filth from an Ozzie...but then I went to the SITE from which it originated (some kind of forum board) and there was, believe me, far worse on the subject of Indians. Is racism toward them more common Down Under than it is here? Made me wonder...
Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:53 PM
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