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A Rise in Wealth for the Wealthy; Declines for the Lower 93%
Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:35 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:46 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Sunday, April 28, 2013 4:48 PM
Monday, April 29, 2013 4:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I think it means IRL is we need to step up and get better people in Congress, and a better president.
Monday, April 29, 2013 8:36 AM
Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:50 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Doesn't it boggle your mind? It does mine. Nothing bad has happened to the people who crashed the economy, meanwhile the rest of the us are being flushed down the drain. And every time Obama caves, he caves in favor of big business.
Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:02 AM
Quote:CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Up 1000 Percent Since 1950 A report from Bloomberg, shows that CEO-to-worker pay ratio is now 204:1. This is up over 1000 percent since the 20:1 ratio back in 1950. Former fashion jewelry saleswoman Rebecca Gonzales and former Chief Executive Officer Ron Johnson have one thing in common: J.C. Penney Co. (JCP) no longer employs either. The similarity ends there. Johnson, 54, got a compensation package worth 1,795 times the average wage and benefits of a U.S. department store worker when he was hired in November 2011, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Gonzales’s hourly wage was $8.30 that year. Across the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index of companies, the average multiple of CEO compensation to that of rank-and-file workers is 204, up 20 percent since 2009, the data show. The numbers are based on industry-specific estimates for worker compensation. Almost three years after Congress ordered public companies to reveal actual CEO-to-worker pay ratios under the Dodd-Frank law, the numbers remain unknown. As the Occupy Wall Street movement and 2012 election made income inequality a social flashpoint, mandatory disclosure of the ratios remained bottled up at the Securities and Exchange Commission, which hasn’t yet drawn up the rules to implement it. Some of America’s biggest companies are lobbying against the requirement. “It’s a simple piece of information shareholders ought to have,” said Phil Angelides, who led the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, which investigated the economic collapse of 2008. “The fact that corporate executives wouldn’t want to display the number speaks volumes.” The lobbying is part of “a street-by-street, block-by-block fight waged by large corporations and their Wall Street colleagues” to obstruct the Dodd-Frank law, he said. Brand-Name Opposition The leading opponent of mandatory pay-ratio disclosure is a Washington-based non-profit called the HR Policy Association, which represents top human resources executives at about 335 large corporations. “We don’t believe the information would be material to investors,” said Tim Bartl, president of the group’s advocacy arm, the Center on Executive Compensation. Accounting for country-to-country differences in wages and benefits at global companies would be costly, time-consuming and all but impossible, he said in an interview. The group has brand names behind it: 17 companies on HR Policy’s board of directors have CEO pay ratios in the top 20 percent of S&P 500 corporations, Bloomberg data show. They include General Electric Co. (GE), with a ratio of 491; McDonald’s Corp. (MCD), at 351; and AT&T Inc. (T), at 339. Growing Ratio These multiples are based on CEO pay for either the fiscal year ending in 2011 or 2012, as disclosed in the companies’ most recent filings before noon on March 26. Because most companies don’t disclose their average workers’ pay, Bloomberg used U.S. government data on worker compensation by industry. The average ratio for the S&P 500 companies is up from 170 in 2009, when the financial crisis reduced many compensation packages. Estimates by academics and trade-union groups put the number at 20-to-1 in the 1950s, rising to 42-to-1 in 1980 and 120-to-1 by 2000. “When CEOs switched from asking the question of ‘how much is enough’ to ‘how much can I get,’ investor capital and executive talent started scrapping like hyenas for every morsel,” said Roger Martin, dean of the University of Toronto’s Rotman School of Management, in an interview. “It’s not that either hates labor, or wants to crush their lives. They just don’t care.” MUCH more at http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-30/ceo-pay-1-795-to-1-multiple-of-workers-skirts-law-as-sec-delays.html
Saturday, May 4, 2013 7:19 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Doesn't it boggle your mind? It does mine. Nothing bad has happened to the people who crashed the economy, meanwhile the rest of the us are being flushed down the drain. And every time Obama caves, he caves in favor of big business. I realize that's history, but not that old and still headed in the wrong direction. Btw, as an economy I think we're flirting with a serious depression. The sequester could put the weak economic 'growth' (where is that, I wonder?) into the negative. I think it means IRL is we need to step up and get better people in Congress, and a better president.
Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I made close to 400k during GWB's presidency.
Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I made close to 400k during GWB's presidency. So, over 8 years, that's $ 50K a year. That ain't so great. I did that. Surely wasn't enough to put you into that over $ 250K a year bracket that's ALL the Republicans care about. Not sayin' you didn't take a major hit; you did, but so did I. You're living in the fallout zone from the great crash of 2008, which happened on Bush's watch. The economy hasn't recovered YET-- there are, or may be, many reasons why.
Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:26 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Monday, May 6, 2013 5:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Like Bugs Bunny said, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.....
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: It must be difficult to hold down a decent job, any job when you have problems.
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: or, as somebody said on George of the Jungle, in Phil Silver's voice, " If you can't whup 'em, join 'em. THEN whup 'em!"
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:02 AM
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