Sign Up | Log In
REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS
How's that Hispanic outreach workin' out for ya, GOP?
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:55 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:When Republicans appointed Pablo Pantoja to State Director of Florida Hispanic Outreach for the Republican National Committee, they hoped he would be able to bridge the sizable gap that only expanded during the 2012 elections, when the state’s 4.3 million Hispanic voters supported Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by a 20 percent margin. But after months of inaction by Congressional Republicans on comprehensive immigration reform and stiff resistance by Republican-leaning groups like the Heritage Foundation, Pantoja has had enough; on Monday, he announced via email that he was leaving the party and registering as a Democrat: Friend, Yes, I have changed my political affiliation to the Democratic Party. It doesn’t take much to see the culture of intolerance surrounding the Republican Party today. I have wondered before about the seemingly harsh undertones about immigrants and others. Look no further; a well-known organization recently confirms the intolerance of that which seems different or strange to them. Pantoja goes on to specifically cite last week’s revelation — that an author of Heritage’s false report on the cost of the Gang of Eight’s immigration bill wrote a dissertation in which he suggested that Hispanics are at a permanent disadvantage because they have lower IQs — as the final straw in his political evolution. Prior to assuming the role of state director, Pantoja served in the National Guard, doing multiple tours abroad in Kuwait and Iraq before returning to the states and getting involved in Republican politics. In 2010 he served as a field director in Florida during the midterm elections. Republicans have for months tried to find ways to make inroads with the country’s growing hispanic population, especially in the swing state of Florida. Hispanics there turned out to vote at a rate of more than 62 percent in 2012, significantly higher than the national turnout rate of 48 percent and the highest rate of Hispanic turnout in the country.
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:12 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:19 AM
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:33 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Not so great, it seems. Quote:When Republicans appointed Pablo Pantoja to State Director of Florida Hispanic Outreach for the Republican National Committee, they hoped he would be able to bridge the sizable gap that only expanded during the 2012 elections, when the state’s 4.3 million Hispanic voters supported Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by a 20 percent margin. But after months of inaction by Congressional Republicans on comprehensive immigration reform and stiff resistance by Republican-leaning groups like the Heritage Foundation, Pantoja has had enough; on Monday, he announced via email that he was leaving the party and registering as a Democrat: Friend, Yes, I have changed my political affiliation to the Democratic Party. It doesn’t take much to see the culture of intolerance surrounding the Republican Party today. I have wondered before about the seemingly harsh undertones about immigrants and others. Look no further; a well-known organization recently confirms the intolerance of that which seems different or strange to them. Pantoja goes on to specifically cite last week’s revelation — that an author of Heritage’s false report on the cost of the Gang of Eight’s immigration bill wrote a dissertation in which he suggested that Hispanics are at a permanent disadvantage because they have lower IQs — as the final straw in his political evolution. Prior to assuming the role of state director, Pantoja served in the National Guard, doing multiple tours abroad in Kuwait and Iraq before returning to the states and getting involved in Republican politics. In 2010 he served as a field director in Florida during the midterm elections. Republicans have for months tried to find ways to make inroads with the country’s growing hispanic population, especially in the swing state of Florida. Hispanics there turned out to vote at a rate of more than 62 percent in 2012, significantly higher than the national turnout rate of 48 percent and the highest rate of Hispanic turnout in the country. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/05/14/2006251/rnc-director-of-hispanic-outreach-quits-party-and-registers-as-a-democrat/ Maybe the GOP really intended to stir up Hispanic outrage, not outreach. On that score, they're doing great. "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero "I was wrong" - Hero, 2012 Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!" Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:39 AM
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by WULFENSTAR: Kwick, Hispanics are more than the ones who cut your lawn, rob you, or serve your Chipotle.
Quote: There are ALOT who are here LEGALLY. And they worked damn hard to be here that way, too. You know, like SERVING to get their citizenship.
Quote: *New thread idea* - Legal vs Illegal and what it takes to be one way or the other. The sacrifices.
Quote: The GOP are old school idiots, but they are learning. Ill trust them, before I trust your kind.
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:04 AM
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:12 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by WULFENSTAR: There are other Hispanic peoples besides Mexicans and Salvadorans... you know that right?
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by WULFENSTAR: There are other Hispanic peoples besides Mexicans and Salvadorans... you know that right? Who said anything to that effect? Do you ever TRY to read before posting your always-inane crap??
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:31 PM
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:07 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:09 PM
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Thing is, his "research" claimed that not only are Hispanics today of lower IQ than "native whites" in America (yes, he really said "native whites"), but he went on to insist that their children and grandchildren will be low-IQ people as well. Perhaps he has some kind of new testing apparatus that can tell the IQ of people who haven't even been conceived yet.
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:33 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Jason Richwine is sorry he’s not sorry. The co-author of a controversial Heritage Foundation report on the cost of immigration reform is standing behind his past work that led to his resignation. By now, you’ve probably heard about Richwine’s controversial 2009 doctoral dissertation at Harvard, in which he argued that Hispanic immigrants have lower IQs than non-Hispanic, white Americans. Richwine’s theories on differences in intelligence levels between racial groups have some serious flaws. Hispanics aren’t so much of a race as a pan-ethnic group that comprises people who hail from many different countries and racial backgrounds. And scholars question whether IQ is an accurate way to measure intelligence among racial and gender groups. Dan Drezner notes that Richwine’s dissertation didn’t necessarily gain traction in the academic world. But in an interview with the Washington Examiner’s Byron York, Richwine stood behind his work and statements about the racial differences and intelligence. "I don't apologize for any of the things that I said," Richwine continued. "But I do regret that I couldn't give more detail. And I also regret that I didn't think more about how the average lay person would perceive these things, as opposed to an academic audience." Richwine claims that he’s “not naive” about how his work could be seen as offensive within the context of the immigration debate. “I'm proud of it,” he told York. “But I do regret the way it has been used." The Heritage Foundation quickly distanced itself from Richwine’s past work and statements last week. But the political damage has been done. As The Miami Herald noted, Richwine reinforced the stereotype of some immigration-reform opponents as racially prejudiced and nativist. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/heritage-scholar-jason-richwine-apologize/story?id=19170226#.UZOlu4nn9Fo
Quote:Amid loud cries of “Witch! Witch! Burn the Witch!” an enraged throng of ideological activists and media pundits late last week besieged the fortress-like DC headquarters of the conservative Heritage Foundation, demanding the person of one Jason Richwine, Ph.D., employed there as a senior policy analyst. The High Lords of Heritage, deeply concerned about any possible threat to their million-dollar salaries, quickly submitted, though they waited until late Friday, the dead-zone period of national news coverage, before announcing that young Dr. Richwine had been expelled into the Outer Darkness. Only a week earlier, Richwine had reached a pinnacle of his career, listed as co-author of a widely trumpeted Heritage research study demonstrating that Congressional passage of proposed immigration reform legislation would cost American taxpayers some six trillion dollars…or perhaps the figure was six quadrillion dollars. But then some enterprising journalist discovered the dreadful evidence of Richwine’s horrific heresy, namely that his 2009 doctoral dissertation at the Harvard Kennedy School had focused on the very low IQs of those racial groups providing most of our current immigrants, with his conclusion being that such inflows must be halted lest American society be dumbified into disaster. Taken together Race and IQ constitute an exceptionally volatile mix in modern American society, and ignited by a six trillion dollar spark, the resulting explosion blew Richwine out of his comfortable DC employment. Now it seems to me that Heritage’s reaction was a bit difficult to justify. After all, the title of Richwine’s dissertation had been “IQ and Immigration Policy” perhaps providing some slight hint that his topic had something to do with IQ and immigration policy. So the inescapable conclusion is that Heritage was perfectly willing to employ someone with Richwine’s racial views but only so long as the media and the public remained unaware. Last week the media found out, hence exit young Richwine. More at http://www.theamericanconservative.com/raceiq-the-jason-richwine-affair/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=raceiq-the-jason-richwine-affair
Quote:Since Richwine’s dissertation came to light, the Heritage Foundation has distanced itself from his remarks. NBC News reported on a statement release by Foundation spokesman Mike Gonzalez. “This is not a work product of The Heritage Foundation. Its findings in no way reflect the positions of The Heritage Foundation,” the statement read.More at http://www.voxxi.com/hispanics-have-lower-iq-seriously/#ixzz2TNKZQv9t
Quote:That study was intended to be a tool Republicans could use to challenge the immigration reform proposal. However, within hours, the Heritage study received criticism from GOP leaders, including Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. They argued that the study failed to acknowledge the economic growth that would result from the immigration reform legislation. Former Republican National Committee chairman Haley Barbour described the Heritage study as “a political document” instead of a “serious” effort at debate. Meanwhile, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said the study “is better described as a work of fiction.” Hinojosa also criticized the Heritage Foundation for publishing the study. He stated, “The Heritage Foundation has always been a stalwart of conservatism, but this is common place, ugly racism and xenophobia dressed up in economic hyperbole. I urge everyone in the conservative community to step up and speak out against this disgraceful, so-called report.” Same
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:11 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: In exchange for amnesty (because, really, this reform effort is like Reagan's amnesty, which was suppsed to fix the problem "once and for all"... nine million people ago!) let's do a real "once and for all" thing: let's amend the Consitution to get rid of the "anchor baby" provision. The 14th amendment has long outlived it's usefulness, and no other nation in the world.... not even in S and Central America... has that provision.
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:18 PM
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:41 PM
Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:25 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: US 14th amendment "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL