Meanwhile, back in Fukushima by SIGNYM

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Meanwhile, back in Fukushima

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UPDATED: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 07:23
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Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:40 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

The radiologic contamination of northeast Japan (and, by the way, the entire world) continues its expected progression. From the huge population (40%) of children with thyroid nodules emerges a population of children with thyroid cancer. But under the banner of "delay, deny, and obfuscate", the government is still not sure whether these cancers are due to the nuclear disaster.

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201306060092

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Health experts are at odds on whether radiation from the Fukushima nuclear accident led to an unexpectedly high occurrence rate of thyroid gland cancer among children in Fukushima Prefecture. [...]

Twelve of the 174,000 children who have undergone the comprehensive checkups have been found with thyroid gland cancer, with an additional 16 suspected of having the disease.

A majority of radiologists, as well as the prefectural government, have dismissed speculation that radiation from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant had any role in the numbers. But others said it is premature to make any assessment based on the currently available data.

The figures mean about one in every 15,000 children [6.7 in every 100,000] in Fukushima Prefecture has thyroid gland cancer. The rate soars to one in every 6,000 [16.7 in every 100,000] if the suspected cases are included.

Those figures are higher than the thyroid gland cancer occurrence rate of 1.7 in every 100,000 individuals between the ages 15 and 19 in Miyagi and three other prefectures in 2007. [...]

If you learn only one thing from this disaster, and from San Onofre, and the treatment of Snowden, and the discussion of the NSA internal spy program, you should learn that governments and businesses lie when it comes to protecting themselves, even in matters of life and death, and the media (itself a business) usually goes along. If you start out with the idea that "everything that I read-see-hear on corporate media is a lie" (and that includes advertizing) you will be 90% closer to the truth.

Edison's history of lies at San Onofre
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=55357

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Monday, June 17, 2013 12:27 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Thankfully, Yuriko and her people are in New Zealand, not Japan - although the one phone discussion we had got diverted from the topic of how they're doing by her insistence in knowing what *I* am doing, and arguing with her is kinda pointless - still I am pleased they're not in the danger zone.

Also, while sad and tragic, this is kinda heartwarming too.

Japan pensioners volunteer to tackle nuclear crisis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13598607

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"I am 72 and on average I probably have 13 to 15 years left to live," he says.

"Even if I were exposed to radiation, cancer could take 20 or 30 years or longer to develop. Therefore us older ones have less chance of getting cancer."

Mr Yamada is lobbying the government hard for his volunteers to be allowed into the power station. The government has expressed gratitude for the offer but is cautious.

-F

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Monday, July 1, 2013 11:24 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/05/22/national/researchers-find-
high-cesium-in-some-pacific-plankton/#.UZu7-GfYGTc

Researchers find high cesium in some Pacific plankton

Scientists said Tuesday they have detected radioactive cesium from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant in plankton collected from all 10 points in the Pacific they checked, with the highest levels at around 25 degrees north latitude and 150 degrees west longitude.

Minoru Kitamura, a marine ecologist and senior researcher at the agency, said plankton are thought to play a key role in the dispersion of the cesium because they are eaten by bigger fish.

Kitamura said his team will continue to study the accumulation of radioactive cesium.

The researchers collected plankton at 10 points in the Pacific from off Hokkaido to Guam between January and February 2012.

The density of radioactive cesium was the highest at 8.2 to 10.5 becquerels per kilogram in samples collected from waters around 25 degrees north latitude and 150 degrees east longitude. The lowest concentration at any of the 10 points was 1.9 becquerels per kilogram.

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Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:02 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Yeah and hence all the protests around nuclear energy in the 20th century. Cleaner than coal, so long as nothing goes wrong and you have catastrophic consequences for huge sections of the world.

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Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Yup. A coal mine, when it all goes wrong, you lose maybe 20 or 80 people. A nuke plant, even the ones we're told are "safe" ('cause they supposedly WERE when they were built, but that was decades or generations ago, and safety has moved on, and power plants and other physical things tend towards entropy, and what was safe in 1960 might seem decidedly less so today), when it all goes to hell, you poison massive areas of the planet and make places radioactive for tens of thousands of years.

Make 'em as safe as you want, as safe as you can, as safe as ANYBODY can, even - and when it all goes to hell, you'll sit there sputtering "Buh... buh... but it was SAFE!" Or the other favorite, "Nobody could have foreseen this!" Yeah, because who could ever see earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes and the like happening ever again in a known very seismically active area?

Of course, if new nuke plants are built, they won't be as safe as we can make them, because lobbyists for the industry will fight hard to make sure they don't have to obey the rules, or better yet, to see that there ARE no rules.

As well, consider that the next time a modern conservative listens to scientists, it will be the first time.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, July 9, 2013 7:23 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Officials report “troubling discovery” at Fukushima nuclear plant: Cesium levels rocket 9,000% over 3 days in groundwater — Tepco “can’t explain it”July 9, 2013:
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“Officials at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant say they’ve made a troubling discovery…” Cesium levels soar in Fukushima plant groundwater [...] On Monday, TEPCO recorded 9,000 becquerels of cesium 134 and 18,000 becquerels of cesium 137 per liter of water at a well between the No. 2 reactor building and the sea. Both radioactive substances were up about 90 times from the level logged 3 days ago. [...] TEPCO officials say they do not know why cesium levels have risen suddenly, or what effect the spike is having on the nearby ocean. [...]

http://enenews.com/officials-report-troubling-discovery-at-fukushima-d
aiichi-cesium-levels-surging-up-9000-over-3-days-in-groundwater-tepco-cant-explain-it-video

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