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GOP House can't claim to speak for America
Friday, October 4, 2013 2:32 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:One talking point frequently used by Republicans to justify shutting down the government while trying to overturn the Affordable Care Act is that the House and its Republican majority are more representative of Americans' views than President Barack Obama and the Democratic Senate. That is preposterous and beside the point. The ACA is law. End of story. The House Republicans' attempt to nullify a duly-enacted law violates the norms of our constitutional system. It is reckless economically and an egregious affront to our democratic form of government. House Republicans have every right to press their views in Congress but not to threaten to blow up the U.S. and global economy by shutting down the government and threatening public default We have elections for all three key players -- the president, the House and the Senate. If Republicans want to change the law, they must do it the old-fashioned way: Persuade the others to accept their position or win control of the White House and Senate. House Republicans lost ground in the 2012 elections, lost the national vote for the House by over a million votes and retained a majority only because of favorable districting. Obama won re-election by 3.9 percentage points and got an overwhelming victory in the Electoral College. Senate Democrats retained their majority despite having to defend more than twice as many seats as the Republicans. House Republicans represent a distinct minority of public sentiment. They carelessly generalize from the echo chambers of their safe districts to the national electorate. Polls show a majority of the public opposed to shutting down the government to kill or amend Obamacare. A majority of Americans also oppose its repeal or defunding. Moreover, a significant portion of those who don't like the law say it doesn't go far enough. But public opinion doesn't matter at this point. The Constitution provides for an orderly process of making laws and building agreement between chambers of Congress and branches of government. Blackmail, extortion, hostage-taking and brinksmanship are the tools of terrorists, not legislators. http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/opinion/mann-shutdown-congress/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
Friday, October 4, 2013 2:43 PM
Friday, October 4, 2013 3:54 PM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: The ACA is law. End of story. The House Republicans' attempt to nullify a duly-enacted law violates the norms of our constitutional system. It is reckless economically and an egregious affront to our democratic form of government.
Friday, October 4, 2013 4:47 PM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: In other words this impass was the fight the American people chose to have in 2012 by choosing divided govt largly on this issue.
Friday, October 4, 2013 6:29 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Friday, October 4, 2013 9:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The vast majority of Americans...l
Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:44 AM
Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:59 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: I would argue that the impasse is the result of neither party being in the minority.
Saturday, October 5, 2013 12:51 PM
Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:59 PM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The vast majority of Americans do not want the product being shoved up our collective asses by this administration. More and more are seeing how insanely destructive this bill ( i'll never call it a law, get over it ) is to our economy. It will be repealed. Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen Resident USA Freedom Fundie " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:31 PM
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