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Anti-Soviet Warrior Puts His Army On The Road To Peace

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Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


As reported by The Independent, 1993

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On the 15th year anniversary of September 11, a great number of questions about what - and why - happened that morning in 2001, remain unanswered and probably will forever, We don't intend to provide any new or great knowledge on a topic that will dominate today's airwaves (readers can watch the memorial service dedicated to Sept 11 at the following link), however, we do want to point out another, less popular, aspect of journalistic history: an article from 1993, in which the Independent's Robert Fisk profiles an "Anti-Soviet warrior" who "puts his army on the road to peace."



The "peace warrior" was of course Osama bBn Laden, who 8 years later would be held responsible by the US government for the worst terrorist attack on US soil in history. This makes Osama the first "vetted" moderate rebel to turn against the (CIA's) hand that fed him for years, leading to countless other US-funded and equipped "freedom and peace" fighters across the years who would ultimately attack the very US that made their militant aspirations possible. One almost wonders why the US continues to wage war against itself. Is it sheer incompetence (and with such Secretaries of State as Kerry And Clinton, this is a distinct possibility), or just a trigger-happy Military Industrial Complex which, if unable to wage war against a foreign target, is just as happy to turn against America's own people.

Just as importantly, we hope this particular 1993 "report" will remind readers to always take anything, and everything, written by the global media, with a grain of salt.


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Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:34 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Robert Fisk is a terrible journalist, I recall your citing one of his articles not long ago.


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

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Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Hey! That sounds like you.

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Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:30 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Hey! That sounds like you.


It was Neil DeGrasse Tyson. But thanks.


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

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Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


So you admit to trying to establish political truth by repetition? YOU ADMIT TO BEING A PROPAGANDIST?! (Is THAT why your posts never have objective evidence?)





Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, September 12, 2016 10:01 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Kiki once again showing extremely weak reading comprehension.


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Monday, September 12, 2016 6:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Originally posted by kpo:
"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521




So hey there KPO - you do recall those are YOUR threads? Where you repeatedly fail to provide hard evidence beyond your repeated assertions and the repeated assertions of the people you quote? (BTW I find it interesting that Sky News seems not at all interested in handing over its papers to either the government or the UN for vetting.)




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, September 12, 2016 7:47 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So hey there KPO - you do recall those are YOUR threads?


The ones in my signature? That's a dumb question.

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the repeated assertions of the people you quote?

Only a demented Putin fangirl would call reports of war crimes published by the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and international charities active in Syria such as MSF, IRC, ICRC, Unicef etc., as "mere assertions".



"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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