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Texas Ratifies Resolution For Article V Convention of States

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Monday, May 8, 2017 10:20 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Either the 11th or 12th State to do so. I think 34 States are needed.

It is predicted that as the number of States approaches 20, the Libtards will start screaming.


http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/05/texas-becomes-11th-state-to-call-
for-article-v-convention
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Monday, May 8, 2017 11:59 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic is a book by the American talk radio host and lawyer Mark Levin, published in 2013. In it, Levin lays out and makes a case for eleven Constitutional amendments which he believes would restore the Constitution’s chief components: federalism, republicanism, and limited government.

The eleven amendments proposed by Levin:

Impose Congressional term limits
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, returning the election of Senators to state legislatures
Impose term limits for Supreme Court Justices and restrict judicial review
Require a balanced budget and limit federal spending and taxation
Define a deadline to file taxes (one day before the next federal election)
Subject federal departments and bureaucratic regulations to periodic reauthorization and review
Create a more specific definition of the Commerce Clause
Limit eminent domain powers
Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress
Create a process where two-thirds of the states can nullify federal laws
Require photo ID to vote and limit early voting
Levin would have these amendments proposed to the states by a convention of the states as described in Article Five of the Constitution.

This seems to be the point of Article Five - or am I missing something?

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Tuesday, May 9, 2017 4:00 AM

JO753

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Without even bothering to look into it, I know it haz to be about screwing us out uv money and power. If Republican states are for it, its gotta be bad.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2017 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Without even bothering to look into it, I know it haz to be about screwing us out uv money and power. If Republican states are for it, its gotta be bad.

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Heck, I was trying to be all innocent and stealthy to uncover such things.
Yes, my thinking too. The language of those amendments is so vague - designed to hypnotize anyone, "these aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along..." The kind of language that was written with something specific in mind that you can't discern until after it's too late and the trap has been sprung.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2017 12:40 PM

JO753

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Ye! They luv to sneek thoze in wile nobodyz watching.

Trump, wether on purpose or inadvertantly, iz keeping everybodyz attention, so who knowz wut the GoPs are getting away with now.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2017 9:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic is a book by the American talk radio host and lawyer Mark Levin, published in 2013. In it, Levin lays out and makes a case for eleven Constitutional amendments which he believes would restore the Constitution’s chief components: federalism, republicanism, and limited government.

The eleven amendments proposed by Levin:

Impose Congressional term limits
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, returning the election of Senators to state legislatures
Impose term limits for Supreme Court Justices and restrict judicial review
Require a balanced budget and limit federal spending and taxation
Define a deadline to file taxes (one day before the next federal election)
Subject federal departments and bureaucratic regulations to periodic reauthorization and review
Create a more specific definition of the Commerce Clause
Limit eminent domain powers
Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress
Create a process where two-thirds of the states can nullify federal laws
Require photo ID to vote and limit early voting
Levin would have these amendments proposed to the states by a convention of the states as described in Article Five of the Constitution.

This seems to be the point of Article Five - or am I missing something?

Golly, that language sounds so vague and deceptive, what language are they using? That couldn't possibly be plain, simple American English language, can it? There must be some mistake.

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Friday, May 12, 2017 5:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Other States which have ratified:
AK, AZ, OK, ND, IN, TN, AL, GA, FL.

And 9 States which have passed the resolution in one of their Chambers:
UT, NM, SD, IA, MO, AR, WV, VA, NC.

And 27 States have active legislation for this resolution in their Legislatures.

Only 3 remaining States do not have any active legislation:
WI, MT, NV.



Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process? Just because Obama violated the Constitution for the last 8 years does not render the entire document invalid.

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Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process?



I'm not a liberal and I don't care about Obama.

This seems rather blatantly anti- current constitution to me:

"Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress"

If you are a strict constitutionalist that should be a red flag.

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Saturday, May 13, 2017 5:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Other States which have ratified:
AK, AZ, OK, ND, IN, TN, AL, GA, FL.

And 9 States which have passed the resolution in one of their Chambers:
UT, NM, SD, IA, MO, AR, WV, VA, NC.

And 27 States have active legislation for this resolution in their Legislatures.

Only 3 remaining States do not have any active legislation:
WI, MT, NV.



Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process? Just because Obama violated the Constitution for the last 8 years does not render the entire document invalid.

The accuracy of this post only lasted about 100 minutes.

Missouri became the 12th State to pass this resolution.


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Saturday, May 13, 2017 5:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process?


This seems rather blatantly anti- current constitution to me:

"Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress"

If you are a strict constitutionalist that should be a red flag.


Did you think Congress was created by God?

The U.S. Congress was established by The U.S. Constitution. The Constitution also included Article V, which clearly provides ways to amend the Constitution itself. Why be so afraid of the clear language of The Constitution? Do you fear you will not be able to adequately sway, influence, or subvert the Constitutional process by your delusional spin doctors, talking heads, or other TelePrompTer readers on your SNL, Fake News, or Colbert shows?

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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 8:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Other States which have ratified:
AK, AZ, OK, ND, IN, TN, AL, GA, FL.

And 9 States which have passed the resolution in one of their Chambers:
UT, NM, SD, IA, MO, AR, WV, VA, NC.

And 27 States have active legislation for this resolution in their Legislatures.

Only 3 remaining States do not have any active legislation:
WI, MT, NV.



Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process? Just because Obama violated the Constitution for the last 8 years does not render the entire document invalid.

The accuracy of this post only lasted about 100 minutes.
Missouri became the 12th State to pass this resolution.

Looks like it is 12 States ratified, and 9 again with passage in one Legislative Chamber, having New Hampshire joining the club.

But it seems 6 States now have no active Legislation currently - with CT, RI, MA in this group.
That leaves 23 States with active legislation in at least one Chamber.

The following map shows the latest:
https://www.conventionofstates.com/nu

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Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:30 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Other States which have ratified:
AK, AZ, OK, ND, IN, TN, AL, GA, FL.

And 9 States which have passed the resolution in one of their Chambers:
UT, NM, SD, IA, MO, AR, WV, VA, NC.

And 27 States have active legislation for this resolution in their Legislatures.

Only 3 remaining States do not have any active legislation:
WI, MT, NV.



Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process? Just because Obama violated the Constitution for the last 8 years does not render the entire document invalid.

The accuracy of this post only lasted about 100 minutes.
Missouri became the 12th State to pass this resolution.

Looks like it is 12 States ratified, and 9 again with passage in one Legislative Chamber, having New Hampshire joining the club.

But it seems 6 States now have no active Legislation currently - with CT, RI, MA in this group.
That leaves 23 States with active legislation in at least one Chamber.

The following map shows the latest:
https://www.conventionofstates.com/nu

Those numbers are still holding.
12, 9, 23, and nothing from 6.

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Saturday, August 26, 2017 7:25 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Agreed....some people just haven't got a clue as to the manipulations of the Conservative or ultra right, as to control of the people. You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that sometime in the not-to-distant future, we will have that revolt that was depicted in Firefly.

It won't be in our lifetime, but sooner than 500 years, like in FF.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Without even bothering to look into it, I know it haz to be about screwing us out uv money and power. If Republican states are for it, its gotta be bad.

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http://www.7532020.com


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Saturday, August 26, 2017 7:36 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


G, I'm a Democrat and a Constitutionalist (I believe in the Constitution), but I don't think you have to be either a Dem or Repub to see that this is not only unConstitutional, but dangerous.

I think true Republicans and Democrats, True Americans....need to come together to save this country. This latest trend with the alt-right is going to ruin this country. Those in Power want to keep what they have, and you have those that want to take it and do what they want to wrest it from the ones that do have it.

Witness the growing trend of alternative truth. I actually see these motherfuckers flat out lying and changing the obvious truth and you have people denying what is clearly right under their noses. Just as you see Trump flaunting his "power" and changing things to suit his needs; this is what's going to happen to our Constitution and our values. It's already happening.

This is fucking scary. We must resist or slowly die.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process?



I'm not a liberal and I don't care about Obama.

This seems rather blatantly anti- current constitution to me:

"Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress"

If you are a strict constitutionalist that should be a red flag.

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Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
G, I'm a Democrat and a Constitutionalist (I believe in the Constitution), but I don't think you have to be either a Dem or Repub to see that this is not only unConstitutional, but dangerous.

I think true Republicans and Democrats, True Americans....need to come together to save this country. This latest trend with the alt-right is going to ruin this country. Those in Power want to keep what they have, and you have those that want to take it and do what they want to wrest it from the ones that do have it.

Witness the growing trend of alternative truth. I actually see these motherfuckers flat out lying and changing the obvious truth and you have people denying what is clearly right under their noses. Just as you see Trump flaunting his "power" and changing things to suit his needs; this is what's going to happen to our Constitution and our values. It's already happening.

This is fucking scary. We must resist or slowly die.



Agree with you SGG - worst in my life time. Trump cares only about his dwindling base and money and odd ball family. And now that he is emboldened by The Power of the Pardon, he's only going to get worse and more flagrant.

Here's one big problem as I see it in very simple terms:
We got here (Trump) as a function of the Internet giving the extreme views and the extreme people attached to those views, more power to make and effect change than they ever had before. The loudest on both ends of the spectrum (and the craziest) are the ones that inevitably make the most effort to have their voices and ideas heard. The middle, the truly conservative voice (not conservative Republican) is pretty boring and gets the least amount of attention and the least amount of air time. The MSM / Internet Noise Machine only amplifies the extremes because they want to keep the masses "entertained-informed." I believe you and others have pointed this conundrum out before, bears repeating.

Until there's a way to make middle of the road seem like a positive, it's going to be the middle spending more time reacting than acting. Hard to make change when you spend all you time on defense. I will always have hope though!

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By the way, SIGHEIL, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... Let's test your honesty and powers of observation. My guess is you will conveniently leave some people out and also mistakenly *cough* lie *cough* about others. Do make sure you include how you hate Liberals and Democrats..*

And voila! Here it is: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61855&p=6

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Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:03 AM

6STRINGJOKER


We got here because the best Democrats could come up with was Hillary. We got here because of the anti-white, anti-male bias that is everywhere now. Even T has admitted on several occasions that the Democrats need to bring back the working class whites if they want to win. Democratic foreign policy is not doing the Dems any favors either.

The internet probably helped a bit. We definately wouldn't have known all about Hillary's shady past and that million dollar B-Day present to Bill from the prince of Qatar.

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Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Regarding liberal fears of this: why be so fearing of the Constitutional process?

I'm not a liberal and I don't care about Obama.

This seems rather blatantly anti- current constitution to me:


The CONSTITUTION is Unconstitutional, right? Yep, the mark of a true Libtard, right there.
Quote:

Quote:

"Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress"

If you are a strict constitutionalist that should be a red flag.

G, I'm a Democrat and a Constitutionalist (I believe in the Constitution), but I don't think you have to be either a Dem or Repub to see that this is not only unConstitutional,

In case the clear plain American English in the thread Title was too tricky for you to translate to your language, the subject is The Constitution Article V. That is before the Bill of Rights, before any Amendments at all, that is The Constitution of The United States. It is hidden right there after Article IV but before Article VI - for some unknown reason the Constitution was put in numerical order, for reasonable non-Libtards to be able to find the Article numbers.
If you really are a Constitutionalist then why do you see The Constitution as Unconstitutional?
Quote:

but dangerous.

I think true Republicans and Democrats, True Americans....need to come together to save this country. This latest trend with the alt-right is going to ruin this country. Those in Power want to keep what they have, and you have those that want to take it and do what they want to wrest it from the ones that do have it.

Witness the growing trend of alternative truth.

Witness:
Quote:

I actually see these motherfuckers flat out lying and changing the obvious truth
And yet people should read your own comments about The Constitution being Unconstitutional - changing the obvious truth much? Or just allergic to truth and fact?
Quote:

and you have people denying what is clearly right under their noses.

This is fucking scary. We must resist or slowly die.

SGG

Something might be scary here, but I don't conjure you can see what it is.

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Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:25 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


As much as I am a believer in the democratic process ... there are far too many bamboozling words in these proposals, and too much trust is required. I've maintained for many years that if you can't show - SPECIFICALLY - in a step-by-step, mechanistic, cause-and effect chain - EXACTLY HOW your proposals get to the desired result - if you depend on vague words and phrases like 'freedom', 'democracy', or 'federalism', to whitewash the lack of a concrete plan - you shouldn't be going forward with your notions.
Quote:

Originally posted by G:


Impose Congressional term limits
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, returning the election of Senators to state legislatures
Impose term limits for Supreme Court Justices and restrict judicial review
Require a balanced budget and limit federal spending and taxation
Define a deadline to file taxes (one day before the next federal election)
Subject federal departments and bureaucratic regulations to periodic reauthorization and review
Create a more specific definition of the Commerce Clause
Limit eminent domain powers
Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress
Create a process where two-thirds of the states can nullify federal laws
Require photo ID to vote and limit early voting
Levin would have these amendments proposed to the states by a convention of the states as described in Article Five of the Constitution.

This seems to be the point of Article Five - or am I missing something?

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Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Saturday, August 26, 2017 11:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:


Impose Congressional term limits
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, returning the election of Senators to state legislatures
Impose term limits for Supreme Court Justices and restrict judicial review
Require a balanced budget and limit federal spending and taxation
Define a deadline to file taxes (one day before the next federal election)
Subject federal departments and bureaucratic regulations to periodic reauthorization and review
Create a more specific definition of the Commerce Clause
Limit eminent domain powers
Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress
Create a process where two-thirds of the states can nullify federal laws
Require photo ID to vote and limit early voting
Levin would have these amendments proposed to the states by a convention of the states as described in Article Five of the Constitution.

This seems to be the point of Article Five - or am I missing something?

As much as I am a believer in the democratic process ... there are far too many bamboozling words in these proposals, and too much trust is required. I've maintained for many years that if you can't show - SPECIFICALLY - in a step-by-step, mechanistic, cause-and effect chain - EXACTLY HOW your proposals get to the desired result - if you depend on vague words and phrases like 'freedom', 'democracy', or 'federalism', to whitewash the lack of a concrete plan - you shouldn't be going forward with your notions. /b]

an entire book was written on the subject - the details are well laid out. You might loan a copy from your local library.
The convention gets approved, the proposals at the convention get ironed out and set, then states need to ratify each proposal before enactment. Doesn't seem like much gray area.

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Sunday, August 27, 2017 2:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

an entire book was written on the subject - the details are well laid out
Well, you seem familiar with the topic. Perhaps you could pick one of the proposals and explain - mechanistically - how the proposal is supposed to cause the desired effect.




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Friday, September 1, 2017 1:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Impose Congressional term limits
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, returning the election of Senators to state legislatures
Impose term limits for Supreme Court Justices and restrict judicial review
Require a balanced budget and limit federal spending and taxation
Define a deadline to file taxes (one day before the next federal election)
Subject federal departments and bureaucratic regulations to periodic reauthorization and review
Create a more specific definition of the Commerce Clause
Limit eminent domain powers
Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress
Create a process where two-thirds of the states can nullify federal laws
Require photo ID to vote and limit early voting
Levin would have these amendments proposed to the states by a convention of the states as described in Article Five of the Constitution.

This seems to be the point of Article Five - or am I missing something?

As much as I am a believer in the democratic process ... there are far too many bamboozling words in these proposals, and too much trust is required. I've maintained for many years that if you can't show - SPECIFICALLY - in a step-by-step, mechanistic, cause-and effect chain - EXACTLY HOW your proposals get to the desired result - if you depend on vague words and phrases like 'freedom', 'democracy', or 'federalism', to whitewash the lack of a concrete plan - you shouldn't be going forward with your notions.

an entire book was written on the subject - the details are well laid out. You might loan a copy from your local library.
The convention gets approved, the proposals at the convention get ironed out and set, then states need to ratify each proposal before enactment. Doesn't seem like much gray area.

As mentioned by G, the book is Liberty Amendments.

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