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Doctor Who - Peter Capaldi's exit

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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 5:44 PM

AURAPTOR

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Peter Capaldi has been , from what I understand, a disappointing Doctor. I personally think he's fine, in most ways, though of the 4 iterations since the series reboot, I have to say he's been my least fav. Not that I don't like him, or his take on being The Doctor. Mostly, I blame what he was given, development wise as well as below average stories. His lack of chemistry w/ Clara, imho, really did put the show in a rut for a while.


Current season, I like the new additions. Bill ( Pearl Mackie ) sorta reminds me of Martha Jones, with her feisty attitude. I think she's been under utilized, much like the 12th Doctor, but to a lesser degree.

Nardole - even though I'm still fuzzy on the how and why he's found his way on the TARDIS , I think he's a great addition.


Questions I have though, for the recent eps of Season 10...

Why did The Doctor go so full out to convince Bill that she had killed him, even to the point of 'faking' his regeneration process ? Does Bill even KNOW about that aspect of Time Lords ?

And where the hell did Missy / The Master come from ? Did they ever come around to explain that one ?

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Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:07 PM

BRENDA


Yeah, I haven't been totally thrilled with his series of the Doctor. And I'm not overly keen on Clara.

Haven't seen Series 10 yet. But don't think I will be too sad to see the end of Peter Capaldi's Doctor.

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Friday, June 9, 2017 8:46 AM

GWEK


I think the issue is less of Capaldi being weak than the others being so strong.

With the reboot, Eccleston was the first, Tennant was the best, and Smith was (in the long run) the one with the deepest story. Very tough competition for Capaldi.

I haven't watched the newest season yet (saving up to binge in the last two weeks or so before the finale), but Capaldi overall seems like a throwback to the more traditional Doctor Who. In that sense, he straddles both worlds, which puts him in a position where it's difficult to excel in either.

Personally, I like Capaldi as a dramatic difference from Smith... but I also won't be sorry to see him go. He's had a solid run, but Doctor Who is ever-changing, and I look forward to seeing what comes next.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:01 AM

AURAPTOR

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He is a throw back, and partly because of that, as well as a lack of vision with how Moffatt et al wanted to use him , is why I think the fans didn't take to him as well as hoped.

12 came out edgy, gruff, a bit unpredictable. Unfortunately, that didn't jive well at all w/ Clara. Of all the companions, I think Donna would have been the best fit. They really could have been a squabbling married couple / comedy team.

9, 10 and 11 all seemed to revel in the mysterious wonder of all that was to be found... in everything. 12 ? Bitter. Angry. Annoyed at everything nothing in particular.

I really do feel that , as 12 has progressed, and softened up a bit, he's grown more likable. I still feel the writing has been sub par, and for that , 12 has suffered for it the most. The others before him could endure poor writing because of their charm, their sometimes childlike ability to turn a bad situation into almost a game. Not so much w/ 12. Again, not blaming Capaldi one bit. I think he's been a solid doctor. Just a bit... out of time ?

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Sunday, July 16, 2017 1:53 PM

MOOSE


I agree. Capaldi was solid and if he had good scripts to work with, he could have been great. However...

This just in:

***SPOILERS***



Huh. Kinda surprised, but really not too much.
I'll give this decision a chance.

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Sunday, July 16, 2017 2:07 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


If she gets half naked, I'm sure Rappy will be in for it


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Sunday, July 16, 2017 2:39 PM

BRENDA


Got this story on Twitter this morning. There has been talk off and on over the last few years of the possiblity. So we shall have to see if she has the chops.

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Sunday, July 16, 2017 7:00 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


You should see the whiners out there in commentland. Something with boobs walks in and boys lose their marbles. "I'll have to think of her as a person and not a sex object??"


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Sunday, July 16, 2017 8:19 PM

MOOSE


Meh, no reason we can't think of her as both.

Hopefully, they'll have an episode or few with River.

Heehee


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Monday, July 17, 2017 2:43 AM

BRENDA


I did see the comments Wishi. Can't expect all men to think with the head on their shoulders when thinking with the other head is easier.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:47 PM

AURAPTOR

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Before I get to my main point, I just wanna start with...

The last Capaldi episode was darn good. Story telling and writing wise, I have no qualms with how the show will go forward. Overall, it's in fine hands.

Jodie Whittaker is simply fine. I saw her in Broadchurch, and then again ( though not realizing she was the same actor ) in Black Mirror. Super capable in every respect for signing on w/ the Dr Who 'verse. No qualms from me, save for one...


The Doctor is NOT female. Sorry, he just isn't. 50 + years and 13 prior Doctors ( counting John Hurt ) proves me right. The Doctor is more than just a character, he's a well established brand. Dress him up in any outfit, young or old, he's still THE Doctor. Choosing to take that away from him, ( and the fans ) simply out of some need to appease the SJW tyrants and PC hysteria, is simply the wrong thing to do.

Sadly, what we have here is character appropriation.

It's the 'easy' way out, of elevating a woman , a female , to the status that's taken all the Doctors 50 years to establish. It wasn't until the 11th Doctor did we even get a glimmer of a thought that canon could be changed and gender swapping could be a " thing " in the Gallifreyian / Time Lord construct.

I feel bad for true fans of the show. And many of those who claim it's fine or feign enthusiasm for this are simply doing so because it's " cool ", as 11 would say, to sidle up w/ the whacky idea. Yes, sure! Anything as long as Doctor Who says it's ok!

Further... there's been talk of making ' Bond ' a black guy, or even a woman. Again, more character appropriation. All in the name of " progress ".

I've nothing against Idris Elba BEING his own action hero. A spy, even a 00 agent. But he's not James Bond !! Never will be, either.

And what the hell was all that nonsense about Thorina or what ever ? A female Thor ? What a colossal failure THAT turned out to be !

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Saturday, July 29, 2017 12:25 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry




Character appropriation?? Seriously?? You see a Millennial use those words, and a whole slew of "snowflake" comments follow, but it's something that matters to YOU and all a sudden it's "character appropriation."

WHAT A JOKE.

People that care if a character has boobs or balls are just plain shallow.
Time to grow up, Kiddies.

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Saturday, July 29, 2017 9:29 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:


Character appropriation?? Seriously?? You see a Millennial use those words, and a whole slew of "snowflake" comments follow, but it's something that matters to YOU and all a sudden it's "character appropriation."

WHAT A JOKE.



Why is it a ' joke ' to use a term they feel strongly about to accurately describe the issue ? Hit the mark spot on, I suspect.

Quote:



People that care if a character has boobs or balls are just plain shallow.
Time to grow up, Kiddies.



Why is it 'shallow' ? You're denying them their essence of who they are. Men and women are different. Unless you're some anti-science nutjob.

Sorry, but there's no 'growing up ' required here. Things are as they are. Period. The real adult has to come to terms with realities like that.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2017 7:25 PM

BYTEMITE


I think the only thing that matters is if they tell a good story, and if you continue to watch or not.

I have no strong opinion about this either way, possibly because strict gender roles have always annoyed me. I suppose that I can empathize with maybe people feel like this takes a role model away from their gender, and that can be tough, but ultimately I think even the doctor feels more value in being human before anything else, in so much as someone from a different world and completely different biology can feel human. Therefore maybe it is all right storywise that the doctor is a hero for humans in general.

Besides, I doubt this will last long, considering the amount of backlash I see about this, whether warranted or not. So take heart in that.

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Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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Thor becoming a woman ( or what ever that Thorina was )
Doctor Who becoming a woman
James Bond rumored to being played by a black guy / and or a woman ...

It's a sad trend that goes well beyond just The Doctor.

Here's a character which I'm just learning about , via the MCU, and am genuinely looking forward to seeing - Black Panther. The very POINT of his character being black is tied into the place of his birth, and his people, in Africa.

Am I suppose to believe that Black Panther or Luke Cage would be just as celebrated and applauded if , say 10 years down the road, one of those characters is played by a cute, freckled face, red haired white girl ?

Because that's basically what we have happening here, but in reverse. Characters which have literally been in existence for decades ( The Doctor and 007 ) or even the actual historical figure Thor - for over 1000 years, the basis for the modern comic book / Marvel character, just suddenly, haphazardly switches gender, for no god damn reason?

Utter nonsense.

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Thursday, August 3, 2017 2:39 AM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Thor becoming a woman ( or what ever that Thorina was )
Doctor Who becoming a woman
James Bond rumored to being played by a black guy / and or a woman ...

It's a sad trend that goes well beyond just The Doctor.

Here's a character which I'm just learning about , via the MCU, and am genuinely looking forward to seeing - Black Panther. The very POINT of his character being black is tied into the place of his birth, and his people, in Africa.

Am I suppose to believe that Black Panther or Luke Cage would be just as celebrated and applauded if , say 10 years down the road, one of those characters is played by a cute, freckled face, red haired white girl ?

Because that's basically what we have happening here, but in reverse. Characters which have literally been in existence for decades ( The Doctor and 007 ) or even the actual historical figure Thor - for over 1000 years, the basis for the modern comic book / Marvel character, just suddenly, haphazardly switches gender, for no god damn reason?

Utter nonsense.



AU, Thor is a mythical figure. Norse God. Not a real human being.

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Thursday, August 3, 2017 5:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


...and?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:16 AM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
...and?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall





And by their very nature they can change gender. Even though Thor is a male god, the Norse pantheon does have Hela, Sif and the Valkyries.

And yes that does bug me that someone would do that. But as I said he is a god.

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Saturday, August 5, 2017 8:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
...and?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall





And by their very nature they can change gender. Even though Thor is a male god, the Norse pantheon does have Hela, Sif and the Valkyries.

And yes that does bug me that someone would do that. But as I said he is a god.



Hela , Sif and the Valkyries aren't male, are they ? They are their own identities.

But you're missing the point. Thor is every bit as real as The Doctor or James Bond. They're CHARACTERS, made up , but are used as vehicles to tell stories about who WE are.

No one is remotely suggesting there can't be female superheros in the least, so this entire discussion is completely disjointed and nonsensical.

Above I have jokingly used the term ' character appropriation ', as the concept has been in the news over recent months. It's a ridiculous idea, to claim that ONLY Mexican cooks could cook Mexican food, or that ONLY groups of people can dress a certain way, because if anyone else does it, they're disrespecting or even " appropriating " a culture. Rubbish ! But in the case of Dr Who, we LITERALLY have a character who has always and only been male, even had romantic interactions w/ a companion ( 10 and Rose ) ... it completely betrays the essence of The Doctor's very being by suddenly changing him to a ' her '. Women and men are different. Down to their genetics.

I don't care how much I go against the tide of popular sentiment with this , because it's not ME making the case. It's science. And this nonsense of trying to promote a fad of gender swapping or what ever to appease a micro fraction of the fandom, never mind the population as a whole, is wholly misplaced. Gay relations, inter species relations... I know, Dr Who has touched on it. More than a time or two.

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