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Why Nazis Are Just Copies of Democrats

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


A new book The Big Lie points out how Nazis were able to justify their practices and policies, merely by copying Democrats in America.

To expel citizens of lands that they wanted, and then enslave the remaining populace, they copied American practices towards Natives Americans, derived from Thomas Jefferson.

To justify targeting of Jews, they just copied the Democrat Laws supporting slavery, merely replacing the word Slave with Jew, derived from Andrew Jackson.

To justify extermination and eugenics, they merely copied the writings, policies and practices of left-wing radical extremist Margaret Sanger.


I guess the book comes out this fall. But it still won't cease the neverending denial of truth from the radical extremist left - probably because they cannot read, let alone think.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:56 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
- probably because they cannot read, let alone think.



Oh, the irony.



Nazi's are ALWAYS CONSERVATIVES. What does 200 years ago mean AT ALL?? Bloody hell, you win the Idiot of the Internet for today...


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:52 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Hey Jewels Baby, did you come up with this all by your lonesome or did you have help from Keeks and Sigs.

You know, this was SO funny that maybe you should think about a career in Hollywood, or maybe a job writing for Jimmy Fallon or that other Jimmy.

And the hits just keep on coming!


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A new book The Big Lie points out how Nazis were able to justify their practices and policies, merely by copying Democrats in America.

To expel citizens of lands that they wanted, and then enslave the remaining populace, they copied American practices towards Natives Americans, derived from Thomas Jefferson.

To justify targeting of Jews, they just copied the Democrat Laws supporting slavery, merely replacing the word Slave with Jew, derived from Andrew Jackson.

To justify extermination and eugenics, they merely copied the writings, policies and practices of left-wing radical extremist Margaret Sanger.


I guess the book comes out this fall. But it still won't cease the neverending denial of truth from the radical extremist left - probably because they cannot read, let alone think.


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 7:57 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A new book The Big Lie points out how Nazis were able to justify their practices and policies, merely by copying Democrats in America.



Good title for that "book."

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 7:59 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I guess the book comes out this fall. But it still won't cease the neverending denial of truth from the radical extremist left - probably because they cannot read, let alone think.

How about this truth? Backed by Police Unions, Legislators Stand By Laws to Protect Drivers Who Kill Protesters. The Legislators are all Republican. None are Democrats. If the Nazis had known, they would have copied the Republicans' law.

https://theintercept.com/2017/08/14/backed-by-police-unions-legislator
s-standby-laws-to-protect-drivers-who-kill-protesters
/

In the aftermath of the murder of activist Heather Heyer in Charlottesville, Virginia, state legislators who had previously pushed to shield drivers who killed protesters with a moving vehicle are largely standing by their various efforts, arguing that their legislation would not have applied in this weekend’s attack.

Before the killing on Saturday, a swath of bills had been proposed around the country, largely in the South and primarily in response to Black Lives Matter and Dakota Access Pipeline related protests. The bills targeted leftist demonstrators who have increasingly shut down traffic by blocking roads and highways to bring attention to their cause.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:02 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by Wishimay:

Nazi's are ALWAYS CONSERVATIVES. What does 200 years ago mean AT ALL?? Bloody hell, you win the Idiot of the Internet for today...




A question for the rest of us: what is it about the extremes that attract so many? To feel unique? important? to extract some kind of revenge from a "Society" that you feel marginalizes you? And: how do we counter act that impulse to use that avenue as a solution for X? How do yo make people feel important? Or are most of these people so anti-social, so fringe that there's no hope in any solution that comes from "Society?"

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:11 AM

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by G:

A question for the rest of us: what is it about the extremes that attract so many? To feel unique? important? to extract some kind of revenge from a "Society" that you feel marginalizes you? And: how do we counter act that impulse to use that avenue as a solution for X? How do yo make people feel important? Or are most of these people so anti-social, so fringe that there's no hope in any solution that comes from "Society?"

You might look to Germany for the answer: How Germany responds to “blood and soil” politics. What zero tolerance of neo-Nazi ideology looks like.

www.economist.com/blogs/kaffeeklatsch/2017/08/charlottesville-context

To view the footage of crowds in Charlottesville yelling Nazi slogans and flying Swastika banners is troubling anywhere. But do so from Berlin is particularly so. America in 2017 is not Germany in 1933. But the chants about “blood and soil”, the flaming torches, the Nazi salutes, the thuggery and violence turned on objectors—the whole furious display of armed ethno-nationalism—are nonetheless chillingly evocative. Similarly so is the strenuous ambivalence about it all from Donald Trump and some of his media cheerleaders. It could hardly contrast more vividly with how things are done here: Germany today is a case study in how not to give an inch to the dark politics of “Blut und Boden”.

That begins with the significance placed on remembering where this politics led in the past. Every German school child must visit a concentration camp; as essential a part of the curriculum as learning to write or count. (The American equivalent would be to take children to Andersonville Prison where prisoners were murdered to preserve the right to own slaves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andersonville_National_Historic_Site
or Chancellorsville where General Robert E Lee murdered the Unionists to save slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chancellorsville )

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:03 AM

6STRINGJOKER


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Priceless.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:28 AM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
- probably because they cannot read, let alone think.



Oh, the irony.



Nazi's are ALWAYS CONSERVATIVES. What does 200 years ago mean AT ALL?? Bloody hell, you win the Idiot of the Internet for today...


+1.

Along with defending murderous, traitorous Nazi terrorists, this shit-for-brains also wants to show the class how little he knows about history, among the many things he never, ever learned.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:19 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


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Originally posted by G:


A question for the rest of us: what is it about the extremes that attract so many?




Too much too messed up in this country. It gives them people to hate and blame and says "you are saving this country" so it's ok. They get to feel like heroes, and they get to act out violent tendencies. Win-win for today's impotent male. Some people can't exist without a heroes and villains dichotomy. Blame Disney for that

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:38 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


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Originally posted by reaverfan:


... this shit-for-brains also wants to show the class how little he knows about history



'Zactly...Republicans THEN had much more in common with today's Democrats than anyone. But then, most Americans don't know that. One in three also couldn't tell you that the Earth goes around then sun, let alone which direction.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Hey, all you liberals, I think you're missing the point.

Why did we destroy Afghanistan? Partly it was because they refused to turn over their guest (ObL) to the USA - although they WOULD have turned him over to the ICC, that wasn't good enough for us. Plus, the Taliban was in charge, and they treated females worse than donkeys. We needed to do something about that. When we were done, Afgahnistan was in far worse shape than when we started, and not only was the Taliban still in control of much of the countryside, ISIS reared its ugly head.


Why did we destroy Iraq? Well, "Saddam had WMD" and posed a major security risk to ... the USA, I guess ... Plus yanno he was a terrible dictator. So it was worth killing somewhere between 200,000- 1,000,000 civilians and leaving the nation partially occupied by ISIS and riven with ethnic hatred just to depose a dictator and get rid of phantom WMD.

Why did we destroy Libya? Well, Qaddafi was a terrible dictator, and despite the fact that the standard of living in Libya was VASTLY superior to any other nation in Africa, Qaddafi had to "massacre his own people" in order to stay in power, which somehow required not only a NATO no-fly zone but eventual bombing of the entire civilian space and arming radicalized jihadists to topple the leader. But we managed to take down Qaddafi and the price was only about 10,000 dead, a nation crawling with jihadist terrorists, and a catastrophic drop in living standards.

Why did we get involved in Ukraine? Well, despite having been elected into power, Yanukovich was a terrible corrupt oligarch - even more terrible and corrupt than the other terrible corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs - and despite the fact that early elections were offered to the protesters, even that wasn't enough for the State-Department and its NGOs and its team of merrie provovateurs, and they took down a democratically elected government and installed their appointed leaders, and now there are 11,000 dead civilians and the country is riven in three.

And what about Assad? Well, he was a terrible anti-democratic dictator, plus he "gassed how own people" (not) and so that justified our funding, training, and arming an assorted crew of old-guard al Qaeda terrorists, new-guard ISIS terrorists from Chechnya to Morocco, an almost invisible minority of pro-democracy forces (all 100 of them), and Kurdish separatists, as well as allowing Israel the random missile-strike into the Golan heights so they can keep their (Syrian) water source. So now there are 300,000+ dead Syrians, millions displaced and cities destroyed.

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You might ask what the point of this diatribe is.

The point is that LIBERALS are just as likely to kill and destroy as CONSERVATIVES. All you have to do is give them a gooey-sounding cause .... "freedom", "democracy", "human rights" .... and they will unthinkingly trample over a million bodies to pursue their just cause.

*******

Once you have a group of people with an ideology, they stop seeing others as people, and start seeing them in dehumanized form. "Those people" are not longer real people, they're blacks or whites; Democrats or Republicans; or Hutus or Tutsis; Sunnis or Shias; men or women. Once you have dehumanized someone in your mind, it is extremely easy to apply extreme measures to them Off-the-charts partisan Democrats do that, as well as off-the-chart partisan Republicans. So did the Nazis, the Communists, the Maoists, the Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot.

SO.

After watching violence being used to promote so many "good causes", I've come to the conclusion, that the only LEGITIMATE use of violence is actual honest self-defense or defense of others. And no, I don't mean "the best defense is a good offense" kind of defense, or a That person might harm somebody some day" defense, I mean defense against immediate physical harm.

If you don't want to slip off into Nazi-land by promoting "eradication (extermination of a hated group) by any means possible" then limit your violence to self-defense, and use other options (the law, negotiation, discussion) to solve your problems instead.







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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:37 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:


... this shit-for-brains also wants to show the class how little he knows about history



'Zactly...Republicans THEN had much more in common with today's Democrats than anyone. But then, most Americans don't know that. One in three also couldn't tell you that the Earth goes around then sun, let alone which direction.



Today's Democrats...

Like Hillary Clinton who had this to say about her "friend and mentor", Robert Byrd, former leader of the KKK?



And who was against gay marriage and for the Iraq war?


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:50 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


No one cares about your Hillary Hard ON, 6ix. Get a life.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:05 PM

6STRINGJOKER


So she didn't say she was mentored and a friend of the former leader of the KKK? She didn't say without a doubt that she was against gay marriage? She didn't voice her unwavering support for the Iraq war?

I'm just wondering if this is the type of Democrat that you consider "today's democrat"?

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:10 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey, all you liberals, I think you're missing the point.

Why did we destroy Afghanistan? Partly it was because they refused to turn over their guest (ObL) to the USA - although they WOULD have turned him over to the ICC, that wasn't good enough for us. Plus, the Taliban was in charge, and they treated females worse than donkeys. We needed to do something about that. When we were done, Afgahnistan was in far worse shape than when we started, and not only was the Taliban still in control of much of the countryside, ISIS reared its ugly head.

Your facts are wrong, Signym. Your conclusion is wrong.

Afghanistan could not turn over Osama bin Laden because he was in Pakistan and Bush could not leave Afghanistan until he found bin Laden is the place he was not. Everything wrong with that war follows from Bush being wrong about why he continued to fight it. Bush was doomed to fail because his ambitions, once he could not find bid Laden, grew too big and too vague. Bush didn't send enough troops to turn all the Afghan men into either well behaved gentlemen or corpses.
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Why did we destroy Iraq? Well, "Saddam had WMD" and posed a major security risk to ... the USA, I guess ... Plus yanno he was a terrible dictator. So it was worth killing somewhere between 200,000- 1,000,000 civilians and leaving the nation partially occupied by ISIS and riven with ethnic hatred just to depose a dictator and get rid of phantom WMD.
Rumsfeld estimated the war would be cheap. Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki was fired when he testified that was flat wrong.
www.cnn.com/2013/03/20/opinion/mills-truth-teller-iraq/index.html
V.P. Cheney estimated that Halliburton could steal Iraq oil.
Bush estimated that he would be hailed as the Great Liberator of Iraq.

Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush are delusional Republicans. It was no surprise that their war was poorly planned, executed at enormous cost, and failed to live up to their delusions.
www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/03/20/the-underestimated-cos
ts-and-price-tag-of-the-iraq-war
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Why did we destroy Libya? Well, Qaddafi was a terrible dictator, and despite the fact that the standard of living in Libya was VASTLY superior to any other nation in Africa, Qaddafi had to "massacre his own people" in order to stay in power, which somehow required not only a NATO no-fly zone but eventual bombing of the entire civilian space and arming radicalized jihadists to topple the leader. But we managed to take down Qaddafi and the price was only about 10,000 dead, a nation crawling with jihadist terrorists, and a catastrophic drop in living standards.
Having ruled for merely 42 years, Muammar Gaddafi botched the transfer of power to his son. After decades of compromises with Gaddafi, the many tribal factions that he had kept under control had lost patience with Gaddafi's endless promises. The tribes wanted all control for themselves, sharing nothing with any other tribe. They could not agree on how to share Libya, but they could agree on one thing: to kill Gaddafi.

Signym, you didn't get enough facts right about these three countries. No surprise that your three explanations are wrong. But I have to complement your style. You show high confidence in yourself and you are very articulate.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:28 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'm just wondering if this is the type of Democrat that you consider "today's democrat"?



1. When she first arrived on the political scene attitudes and values were different than today. It's like asking my grandma what she thinks. (She doesn't.)

2. I have never supported Hillary. The fact that she DIDN'T leave Bill says everything about her.

3. There is a vast difference in ideology within parties, picking out one person isn't much of an argument. I am referencing what positions the parties generally stand for. But you know that. One more excuse to knock Hillary makes your day.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The communists in 1920's Germany were on the brink of taking over that country, until the German Socialists ( NAZIS ) were able to flip sentiment by making Germany and the German people the focus of their movement.

FF to the early 30's, the Nazis were in control, and the commies were outlawed.

Commies ( Antifa ) and NAZIS ( white nationalist ) are the exact same folks. They're ALL on the Left, and no one should be fooled again.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:18 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by Riverlove:



Priceless.

Not to mention totally wrong.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:11 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'm just wondering if this is the type of Democrat that you consider "today's democrat"?



1. When she first arrived on the political scene attitudes and values were different than today. It's like asking my grandma what she thinks. (She doesn't.)

2. I have never supported Hillary. The fact that she DIDN'T leave Bill says everything about her.

3. There is a vast difference in ideology within parties, picking out one person isn't much of an argument. I am referencing what positions the parties generally stand for. But you know that. One more excuse to knock Hillary makes your day.



I don't need an excuse. She did it to herself.

Don't pretend like you didn't vote for her.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:25 PM

REAVERFAN


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I don't need an excuse. She did it to herself.

Don't pretend like you didn't vote for her.

The other option was Trump. Now we have emboldened Nazi terrorists murdering people, as they praise Trump like a god. The world sees him as an idiot and a laughingstock.

Charlottesville wouldn't even have happened.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 7:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
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Priceless.

Not to mention totally wrong.

Oh, please enlighten us, wise fool.

Which one of those many facts and truths do you dispute?

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 7:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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I guess the book comes out this fall. But it still won't cease the neverending denial of truth from the radical extremist left - probably because they cannot read, let alone think.

How about this truth? Backed by Police Unions, Legislators Stand By Laws to Protect Drivers Who Kill Protesters. The Legislators are all Republican. None are Democrats. If the Nazis had known, they would have copied the Republicans' law.

https://theintercept.com/2017/08/14/backed-by-police-unions-legislator
s-standby-laws-to-protect-drivers-who-kill-protesters
/

In the aftermath of the murder of activist Heather Heyer in Charlottesville, Virginia, state legislators who had previously pushed to shield drivers who killed protesters with a moving vehicle are largely standing by their various efforts, arguing that their legislation would not have applied in this weekend’s attack.

Before the killing on Saturday, a swath of bills had been proposed around the country, largely in the South and primarily in response to Black Lives Matter and Dakota Access Pipeline related protests. The bills targeted leftist demonstrators who have increasingly shut down traffic by blocking roads and highways to bring attention to their cause.

Wile reading that, I was dumbfounded as to why they don't just protest on railroad tracks. Much more substantial opponent, same Right-Of-Way argument.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


REAVER, It never ceases to amaze me how some people can see the speck in their brother's eye, and not the log in their own. I hate to keep hounding on this, but to say that you want to eradicate people by any means possible .... how is that different from Hitler, really?

Because in YOUR mind, if the cause is just enough, no action is too extreme?

Well, those causes are just fill-in-the-blanks. Today it's anti-fascism (and the irony is just so delicious, isn't it?), tomorrow it's "liberty", the next day it's "Russia", and the day after that it's "prosperity", or "order", or "safety", or even "global warming".

It's the old ends-means argument. Quite often, the result of violent "means" is the exact opposite "end" of what was intended.

So, if its so unsuccessful in achieving the stated goal, why do people still use violence?



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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND -

You got it all wrong, again.

I know why "we" destroyed all of those nations, and it wasn't "us" that made those decisions. For various reasons (petrodollar, pipelineistan, encircling Russia) TPTB (USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia) decided that certain leaders just had to go.

My question was different: How did TPTB get what were formerly antiwar liberals to go along with what were essentially unjustified wars of aggression, which killed quite possibly over a million people?

Well, it was simple- they just poured some kind of liberal-syrup over it ... tyrant ... massacred his own people ... gassed his own people ... corrupt ... backward ... misogynist ... and liberals swallowed it whole.

And worse, liberals .... yes, you, among others ... never even looked back at the carnage that they had been gulled into supporting, never gave all those dead, wounded, traumatized, and displaced enough of a thought to ask themselves (yourself) How did I get it so wrong? Who fooled me? How can I not be fooled again?

So I guarantee you, you will be just as ready to murder for the NEXT cause that comes along. Spin the dial! Russia! North Korea! Iran! China! Neo-nazis! Traitors! Panama! Venezuela! Brazil!

Round and round ...



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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A new book The Big Lie points out how Nazis were able to justify their practices and policies, merely by copying Democrats in America.

Good title for that "book."

The book title refers to liberal's Big Lie about how the Nazis are copies of something other than themselves.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:19 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


This whole thread is just one big *facepalm.

Morons fighting over who wants to kill who, which party does or said what 150 years ago. Or thirty years ago. Like it fucking matters right here and now. Like ANYTHING would justify ANYONE driving a car into a group of ANY people.

Nazi's are bad, M'kay. If you don't get THAT at least, the hell with you.

As usual, this planet would be a whole lot better without most humans on it.





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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:24 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Oh, and if you don't understand why Obama is NOT LIKE HITLER, you need to watch your entire family be gassed to death. It kinda has a way of making people figure out who the bad people are...


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:02 PM

6STRINGJOKER


There aren't any Nazis anymore.

There might be some idiot white people with a chip on their shoulder that are just looking for any excuse to hurt people because they are BAD PEOPLE that nobody here supports, but there are no fucking Nazis.

The only people on this board that show intolerance and hate on a daily basis in almost every single post are you and reaverfan.

Take a take a look in the mirror. You'll see the face of everything you hate about humanity staring right back at you.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:07 PM

REAVERFAN



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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:10 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
There aren't any Nazis anymore.


Really? What do you call people who march around with Nazi flags and do Nazi salutes, and terrorize and murder people who aren't like them? Patriots?

You piece of shit.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:11 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Oh, and if you don't understand why Obama is NOT LIKE HITLER, you need to watch your entire family be gassed to death. It kinda has a way of making people figure out who the bad people are...


Seriously. You LIKE people who march around with torches and swastikas and terrorize and murder people? WTF?




I don't think among the sane people from either side of the spectrum that the irony of both of your statements is lost...

Everytime you both throw that word Nazi around to people who aren't actually Nazis you're not only diminishing the meaning of the word, but you're insulting the survivors, their families and everybody who died in actual concentration camps at the hands of actual Nazis.

Grow the fuck up.

EDITED TO ADD:

BTW... I quoted your deleted post to Wish that highlights your lack of reading comprehension. If anybody is curious why reaverfan posted twice, it wasn't an accidental double post. (See above)

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:13 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
There aren't any Nazis anymore.


Really? What do you call people who march around with Nazi flags and do Nazi salutes, and terrorize and murder people who aren't like them? Patriots?




No. I call them murderers and scum and I hope they get what's coming to them.

Quote:

You piece of shit.



Fuck you clown.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Oh, and if you don't understand why Obama is NOT LIKE HITLER, you need to watch your entire family be gassed to death. It kinda has a way of making people figure out who the bad people are...




Under Yanukovich/ Qaddafi/ Assad must go! Obama supported this







Of course, there are no videos of drone strikes because those are secret. Just because it's far away and someone else doesn't make it any less tragic. War is hell, but who started and funded it?

-----------
By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Oh, and if you don't understand why Obama is NOT LIKE HITLER, you need to watch your entire family be gassed to death. It kinda has a way of making people figure out who the bad people are...

Seriously. You LIKE people who march around with torches and swastikas and terrorize and murder people? WTF?

I don't think among the sane people from either side of the spectrum that the irony of both of your statements is lost...

Everytime you both throw that word Nazi around to people who aren't actually Nazis you're not only diminishing the meaning of the word, but you're insulting the survivors, their families and everybody who died in actual concentration camps at the hands of actual Nazis.

Grow the fuck up.

EDITED TO ADD:

BTW... I quoted your deleted post to Wish that highlights your lack of reading comprehension. If anybody is curious why reaverfan posted twice, it wasn't an accidental double post. (See above)

you shouldn't post facts about RF to expose retardedness. Using truth versus Libtards is just not fair - they can't comprehend facts or truth.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Oh, and if you don't understand why Obama is NOT LIKE HITLER, you need to watch your entire family be gassed to death. It kinda has a way of making people figure out who the bad people are...

Under Yanukovich/ Qaddafi/ Assad must go! Obama supported this






Of course, there are no videos of drone strikes because those are secret. Just because it's far away and someone else doesn't make it any less tragic. War is hell, but who started and funded it?

here's hoping those get through her blinders. Not betting on it though.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
This whole thread is just one big *facepalm.

Morons fighting over who wants to kill who, which party does or said what 150 years ago. Or thirty years ago. Like it fucking matters right here and now. Like ANYTHING would justify ANYONE driving a car into a group of ANY people.

Nazi's are bad, M'kay. If you don't get THAT at least, the hell with you.

As usual, this planet would be a whole lot better without most humans on it.

I am not sure I have seen your outrage over the doctors prescribing these psychotropic drugs to this guy or others. When these doctors are held responsible and thrown in prison for these deaths then we'll have started to make progress.

https://breggin.com

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:45 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
A question for the rest of us: what is it about the extremes that attract so many? To feel unique? important? to extract some kind of revenge from a "Society" that you feel marginalizes you? And: how do we counter act that impulse to use that avenue as a solution for X? How do yo make people feel important? Or are most of these people so anti-social, so fringe that there's no hope in any solution that comes from "Society?"



You'd know more about it than me. I'm a lone wolf in every aspect of my life. I don't have cable TV so I don't even watch any news anymore. No matter who's talking from whatever side it's all a bunch of lies anyhow.

You and me... at the end of the day we don't know shit about shit. At this stage in my life I'm thinking we're better off for it.

I'd say the extremes attract so many people for the exact opposite reason you stated. It's not to be unique. It's to be a part of a group of like minded people that echo your own beliefs. Safety in numbers and all that crap.

What's so unique about being an unwavering mindless Trump supporter, or a brainwashed SJW feminist type on the other side... both of which insulate themselves from any thoughts that differ from their own and hurl the exact same insults at the other side until the words don't even mean anything anymore?




The world isn't laughing at us because of Trump. For some I'm sure that's not helping matters any, but it's not that.


They're laughing at us because we've become a bunch of whiny little babies who have the nerve to cry about oppression every single day when in half of the the world meanwhile there is some truly oppressively heinous and evil shit happening to people in their relatively short and absolutely miserable lives.

We've become a nation full of fucking crybabies that cry when we don't get shit we don't deserve, while people on the other side of the planet are getting their heads cut off because they dared to have their own opinion about something.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


This is what I heard from Michael Moore, that while the MSM is focusing on the latest tweet from the Pumpkin POTUS, his administration is quietly dismantling rules and regs throughout the federal government. Effectively changing the landscape for a democratic society.

This is the reason why his administration hasn't filled the various government posts and has diminished the DOJ as well. It is the dismantling of our country as we know it.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I guess the book comes out this fall. But it still won't cease the neverending denial of truth from the radical extremist left - probably because they cannot read, let alone think.

How about this truth? Backed by Police Unions, Legislators Stand By Laws to Protect Drivers Who Kill Protesters. The Legislators are all Republican. None are Democrats. If the Nazis had known, they would have copied the Republicans' law.

https://theintercept.com/2017/08/14/backed-by-police-unions-legislator
s-standby-laws-to-protect-drivers-who-kill-protesters
/

In the aftermath of the murder of activist Heather Heyer in Charlottesville, Virginia, state legislators who had previously pushed to shield drivers who killed protesters with a moving vehicle are largely standing by their various efforts, arguing that their legislation would not have applied in this weekend’s attack.

Before the killing on Saturday, a swath of bills had been proposed around the country, largely in the South and primarily in response to Black Lives Matter and Dakota Access Pipeline related protests. The bills targeted leftist demonstrators who have increasingly shut down traffic by blocking roads and highways to bring attention to their cause.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:00 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
This whole thread is just one big *facepalm.

Morons fighting over who wants to kill who, which party does or said what 150 years ago. Or thirty years ago. Like it fucking matters right here and now. Like ANYTHING would justify ANYONE driving a car into a group of ANY people.

Nazi's are bad, M'kay. If you don't get THAT at least, the hell with you.

As usual, this planet would be a whole lot better without most humans on it.






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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:27 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey, all you liberals, I think you're missing the point.

Why did we destroy Afghanistan? Partly it was because they refused to turn over their guest (ObL) to the USA - although they WOULD have turned him over to the ICC, that wasn't good enough for us. Plus, the Taliban was in charge, and they treated females worse than donkeys. We needed to do something about that. When we were done, Afgahnistan was in far worse shape than when we started, and not only was the Taliban still in control of much of the countryside, ISIS reared its ugly head.

Your facts are wrong, Signym. Your conclusion is wrong.

Afghanistan could not turn over Osama bin Laden because he was in Pakistan and Bush could not leave Afghanistan until he found bin Laden is the place he was not. Everything wrong with that war follows from Bush being wrong about why he continued to fight it. Bush was doomed to fail because his ambitions, once he could not find bid Laden, grew too big and too vague. Bush didn't send enough troops to turn all the Afghan men into either well behaved gentlemen or corpses.
Quote:

Why did we destroy Iraq? Well, "Saddam had WMD" and posed a major security risk to ... the USA, I guess ... Plus yanno he was a terrible dictator. So it was worth killing somewhere between 200,000- 1,000,000 civilians and leaving the nation partially occupied by ISIS and riven with ethnic hatred just to depose a dictator and get rid of phantom WMD.
Rumsfeld estimated the war would be cheap. Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki was fired when he testified that was flat wrong.
www.cnn.com/2013/03/20/opinion/mills-truth-teller-iraq/index.html
V.P. Cheney estimated that Halliburton could steal Iraq oil.
Bush estimated that he would be hailed as the Great Liberator of Iraq.

Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush are delusional Republicans. It was no surprise that their war was poorly planned, executed at enormous cost, and failed to live up to their delusions.
www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/03/20/the-underestimated-cos
ts-and-price-tag-of-the-iraq-war
Quote:

Why did we destroy Libya? Well, Qaddafi was a terrible dictator, and despite the fact that the standard of living in Libya was VASTLY superior to any other nation in Africa, Qaddafi had to "massacre his own people" in order to stay in power, which somehow required not only a NATO no-fly zone but eventual bombing of the entire civilian space and arming radicalized jihadists to topple the leader. But we managed to take down Qaddafi and the price was only about 10,000 dead, a nation crawling with jihadist terrorists, and a catastrophic drop in living standards.
Having ruled for merely 42 years, Muammar Gaddafi botched the transfer of power to his son. After decades of compromises with Gaddafi, the many tribal factions that he had kept under control had lost patience with Gaddafi's endless promises. The tribes wanted all control for themselves, sharing nothing with any other tribe. They could not agree on how to share Libya, but they could agree on one thing: to kill Gaddafi.

Signym, you didn't get enough facts right about these three countries. No surprise that your three explanations are wrong. But I have to complement your style. You show high confidence in yourself and you are very articulate.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Why are Nazis always so poorly educated, and get everything wrong? Illiterate AND terrorists. Wow.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:29 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:




You and me... at the end of the day we don't know shit about shit.

Speak for yourself, Nazi boy. I know plenty.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:39 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:




You and me... at the end of the day we don't know shit about shit.

Speak for yourself, Nazi boy. I know plenty.



You're just a whiny little cunt and a troll.

The fact that you keep calling me a Nazi shows how little you know about the world and how insulting your very existence is to people who have suffered real oppression at the hands of true evil.


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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:41 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.


SGG



Hey SGG.

I consider you one of the rational people on this board.

I would like you to REALLY read these two threads that are being heavily posted on and think for yourself here, rather than jumping on board the Wishy/Reaverfan hate train.


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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:24 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Obama supported this...



If you truly believe that... and aren't just fishing for attention... then you supported that as well.

==============================

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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:25 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Hey SGG.

I consider you one of the rational people on this board.

I would like you to REALLY read these two threads that are being heavily posted on and think for yourself here, rather than jumping on board the Wishy/Reaverfan hate train.


Yeah, do that. Watch them consistently defend Nazi terrorists.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

This whole thread is just one big *facepalm.

Morons fighting over who wants to kill who, which party does or said what 150 years ago. Or thirty years ago. Like it fucking matters right here and now. Like ANYTHING would justify ANYONE driving a car into a group of ANY people.
Nazi's are bad, M'kay. If you don't get THAT at least, the hell with you.
As usual, this planet would be a whole lot better without most humans on it. - WISHY



Ok, so can we generalize that to: It's bad if ANYONE drives a car into a group pf people, whether they are Nazis, radical jihadists, militant Hindus, or anyone else? If fact, can we make that an even MORE general statement, that killing or injuring anyone for a political cause is bad???

Yup, I think we can.

-----------
By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey, all you liberals, I think you're missing the point.

Why did we destroy Afghanistan? Partly it was because they refused to turn over their guest (ObL) to the USA - although they WOULD have turned him over to the ICC, that wasn't good enough for us. Plus, the Taliban was in charge, and they treated females worse than donkeys. We needed to do something about that. When we were done, Afgahnistan was in far worse shape than when we started, and not only was the Taliban still in control of much of the countryside, ISIS reared its ugly head.

Your facts are wrong, Signym. Your conclusion is wrong.

Afghanistan could not turn over Osama bin Laden because he was in Pakistan and Bush could not leave Afghanistan until he found bin Laden is the place he was not. Everything wrong with that war follows from Bush being wrong about why he continued to fight it. Bush was doomed to fail because his ambitions, once he could not find bid Laden, grew too big and too vague. Bush didn't send enough troops to turn all the Afghan men into either well behaved gentlemen or corpses.
Quote:

Why did we destroy Iraq? Well, "Saddam had WMD" and posed a major security risk to ... the USA, I guess ... Plus yanno he was a terrible dictator. So it was worth killing somewhere between 200,000- 1,000,000 civilians and leaving the nation partially occupied by ISIS and riven with ethnic hatred just to depose a dictator and get rid of phantom WMD.
Rumsfeld estimated the war would be cheap. Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki was fired when he testified that was flat wrong.
www.cnn.com/2013/03/20/opinion/mills-truth-teller-iraq/index.html
V.P. Cheney estimated that Halliburton could steal Iraq oil.
Bush estimated that he would be hailed as the Great Liberator of Iraq.

Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush are delusional Republicans. It was no surprise that their war was poorly planned, executed at enormous cost, and failed to live up to their delusions.
www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/03/20/the-underestimated-cos
ts-and-price-tag-of-the-iraq-war
Quote:

Why did we destroy Libya? Well, Qaddafi was a terrible dictator, and despite the fact that the standard of living in Libya was VASTLY superior to any other nation in Africa, Qaddafi had to "massacre his own people" in order to stay in power, which somehow required not only a NATO no-fly zone but eventual bombing of the entire civilian space and arming radicalized jihadists to topple the leader. But we managed to take down Qaddafi and the price was only about 10,000 dead, a nation crawling with jihadist terrorists, and a catastrophic drop in living standards.
Having ruled for merely 42 years, Muammar Gaddafi botched the transfer of power to his son. After decades of compromises with Gaddafi, the many tribal factions that he had kept under control had lost patience with Gaddafi's endless promises. The tribes wanted all control for themselves, sharing nothing with any other tribe. They could not agree on how to share Libya, but they could agree on one thing: to kill Gaddafi.

Signym, you didn't get enough facts right about these three countries. No surprise that your three explanations are wrong. But I have to complement your style. You show high confidence in yourself and you are very articulate.


Why are Nazis always so poorly educated, and get everything wrong? Illiterate AND terrorists. Wow.

All 5 points are proof they are Liberals.
Nazis - check.
poorly educated - check.
get everything wrong - check.
Illiterate - check.
terrorists - check.

Maybe you accidentally swerved into truth and fact, but you still managed it this time.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

This whole thread is just one big *facepalm.

Morons fighting over who wants to kill who, which party does or said what 150 years ago. Or thirty years ago. Like it fucking matters right here and now. Like ANYTHING would justify ANYONE driving a car into a group of ANY people.
Nazi's are bad, M'kay. If you don't get THAT at least, the hell with you.
As usual, this planet would be a whole lot better without most humans on it. - WISHY

Ok, so can we generalize that to: It's bad if ANYONE drives a car into a group pf people, whether they are Nazis, radical jihadists, militant Hindus, or anyone else? If fact, can we make that an even MORE general statement, that killing or injuring anyone for a political cause is bad???

Yup, I think we can.

Then why is there not more universal outrage?
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
This whole thread is just one big *facepalm.

Morons fighting over who wants to kill who, which party does or said what 150 years ago. Or thirty years ago. Like it fucking matters right here and now. Like ANYTHING would justify ANYONE driving a car into a group of ANY people.

Nazi's are bad, M'kay. If you don't get THAT at least, the hell with you.

As usual, this planet would be a whole lot better without most humans on it.

I am not sure I have seen your outrage over the doctors prescribing these psychotropic drugs to this guy or others. When these doctors are held responsible and thrown in prison for these deaths then we'll have started to make progress.

https://breggin.com


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