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The Illegal Aliens Facts Thread

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


We have gobs of threads here full of BS, and scrutinizing various facets of the issue using Minimum Resolution or Focus.

Somewhere it has been pointed out that actual data is hard to come by, largely because the info is intentionally obfuscated by Washington.
I have not been able to find that discussion, with all the piles of Troll Manure spread all over.

Recently I heard an audio clip of Trump speechifying, and he mentioned some figures which I've not heard before.
He was listing some of the Crime Stats of Illegal Aliens
One figure was 4,000 Murders perpetrated. It sounded like this could mean less than 4,000 Illegals had perpetrated, but the total Body Count was over 4,000. I didn't catch how many years this spanned.
I was surprised that this figure was suddenly available. Since valid data is hidden by Deep State Liberals, the figure surely cannot be refuted.

This number can provide us with a basis for further discussion.


We don't need to rehash here why the best policy is to shovel water uphill.


So I'm hoping for help in accumulating key pertinent information and data regarding actual results of failed Immigration Policy, such as Crimes perpetrated by Illegal Aliens, number of Illegal Aliens present, captured, deported, sanctuaries, and such.

I would be interested in how many $ are spent on Mexico Border Enforcement, and detention, Court costs.

How much is spent on Illegal Aliens, like Public Schools, hospitals, other services provided to Illegal Aliens.

And how many Points of Authorized Entry there are, along with how many or what percent of Illegal Entries are happening in each segment, or at least which States?

Plus breakdown of Asylum Seekers, whether Approved or not, whether Illegal Entry or not, etc.

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:24 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:25 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:25 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Saturday, July 13, 2019 2:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There are many threads on people trying to cross the border that have veered off-topic into illegal aliens within the US, but this is the only thread about that topic per se.

From the LATimes:
Quote:


ICE raids spark fear, protests and questions about who will be swept up
By Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Cindy Carcamo, Matt Stiles, Andrea Castillo and Wendy Fry

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ice-raids-fear-trump-immigra
tion-20190713-story.html

Some migrant families directly in the storm’s path said they were too scared to evacuate. Balbina, 34, a Mexican immigrant who asked to be identified only by first name, has been living south of New Orleans illegally for 12 years. ... “I worry for my kids. I can try to protect them, but it’s a risk. If we go, we don’t know if we can return,” she said by phone from her home.There’s a 10 p.m. curfew in Houma, she said, but for migrants, “It’s like a curfew all the time.”

Why am I being asked to sympathize with people who've been living in the country ILLEGALLY (as per the article) FOR 12 YEARS?
And why do they keep calling them migrants throughout these articles and fail to use the proper descriptors: illegal, undocumented, aliens?
Quote:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ice-raids-push-immigrants
-unauthorized-legal-aid-20190713-story.html

• Advance notice of ICE raids may push immigrants toward unauthorized legal help
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-planned-immigration-rai
ds-20190711-story.html

• Trump’s threatened ICE raids could hearten his base, and terrify immigrants
Currently, there are about 1 million immigrants with final removal orders.




So.... About this "Caravan"
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62745&p=1

The Government Is Detaining and Interrogating Journalists and Advocates at the US-Mexico Border
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62986






And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 4:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Thanks for bumping the thread.


SOMEBODY has started this thread, and then forgot to construct it or finish the OP. Hmmmmmm. The past few months would have been pretty good time to do that, and then now is a busy time again. drat.

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
SOMEBODY has started this thread, and then forgot to construct it or finish the OP.

HA HA HA Ha ha ha ... !

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, btw, how are your log-in issues doing?

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Monday, July 15, 2019 5:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Oh, btw, how are your log-in issues doing?

I remember January. Ambitious, then got busy. Never caught back up before login problems further strangled my post production.
No improvement on login front. I'm told that I must buy a new phone to be able to login again. The same one I've had for a couple years now. Since none of the other "solutions" have worked, and I don't know details of what failure codes there are, I'm not planning to waste that cash really soon. The problem has something to do with google or Android, or so I am told.


Some of the facets of this thread are mentioned in this other thread:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62901

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Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:07 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh that's too bad!

FWIW my carrier decided to change their communication 'handling' software resulting in lots of fun! (not) At least they sent a warning that some functions on some phones would no longer work.

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Monday, July 29, 2019 3:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Not U.S. for this story, but it seems Germany is plagued by Serbs and Iritreans murderers pushing German citizens into oncoming trains, including children.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/boy-eight-killed-being-pushed-114524220.html

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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 2:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


A slight detour from the OP.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-k-tourists-arrested-driving-223512536.html

Couple from Uk apply for admission to U.S. and are denied. So then they enter Canada, and illegally cross into America from B.C. into Washington. So they get caught by Border Patrol, and BP tries to re-enter them to Canada. But Canada refuses re-entry for this criminal couple. So BP tries to contact the UK Embassy, with apparent no success. So then BP turns them over to ICE, and the couple gets transferred to detention facility in Pennsylvania.
For this excitement, they brought along their infant child - and crossed illegally with another couple and their twins, all 7 from UK.

So now their are whining about being mistreated.

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Saturday, February 15, 2020 4:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Not exactly what I started this threa for, but locally there has been whining in the press.

The subject is Trump supposedly demanding deportation of Hmong back to Laos.

Because the local usual Libtard suspects collaborating with the Fake News locally is what I'm seeing, I suspect what is happening is:
1. Trump wants to deport Hmong who are criminals - and they are very violent. Particularly if they are not citizens.
2. Local Libtards are trying to confuse the issue by saying Trump wants to deport law-abiding Hmong.
3. With the Fake News working to gin up ratings or fervor, they are hiding the facts, or just not laying out what the actual wording is from the Trump folks.

If the Hmong here for 45 years have not become citizens, then that is one issue.
If Hmong criminals are going to be deported, I wholly agree with that plan. Laos is not the land of sunshine like Wisconsin is.

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Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:19 PM

JONGSSTRAW


"Don't fuck with the Hmong. Their dumplings are to die for!" ….. Clint Eastwood

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Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Not finding the right thread for this at the moment, so I'll park it here for now.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/sanctuary-cities-funding-donald-trum
p-appeals-court/2018/08/01/id/874952
/
Appeals Court says Judge cannot block Trump's defunding of Sanctuary Cities.

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Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not finding the right thread for this at the moment, so I'll park it here for now.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/sanctuary-cities-funding-donald-trum
p-appeals-court/2018/08/01/id/874952
/
Appeals Court says Judge cannot block Trump's defunding of Sanctuary Cities.




Good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 2, 2021 11:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Reports show the capture of Wanted Criminals at the Border are, under Biden, the highest in 5 years.

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Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


... and quickly rising.


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Saturday, April 3, 2021 7:21 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Numerous Migrants Disembark From Tractor Trailer?

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=UOLY_1617396550

Texas Border

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Saturday, April 3, 2021 8:56 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Monthly migrant apprehensions at U.S.-Mexico border are approaching the highs of 2019


The U.S. Border Patrol apprehended nearly 100,000 migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border in February, the tenth consecutive month of increased apprehensions and a return to levels last seen in mid-2019.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/03/15/migrant-apprehensions
-at-u-s-mexico-border-are-surging-again
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 3, 2021 9:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


^ False.


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Saturday, April 3, 2021 9:02 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Single adults have driven recent surge in migrant apprehensions at southwest border



Single adults accounted for 71% of all U.S.-Mexico border apprehensions in February, while people traveling in families and unaccompanied minors represented 20% and 10%, respectively. That stands in sharp contrast to May 2019, when people traveling in families accounted for 64% of the total and single adults and unaccompanied minors accounted for 28% and 9%, respectively.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/03/15/migrant-apprehensions
-at-u-s-mexico-border-are-surging-again
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 3, 2021 9:22 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Southwest border apprehensions have often peaked in March



https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/04/after-surging-in-2019
-migrant-apprehensions-at-u-s-mexico-border-fell-sharply-in-fiscal-2020-2
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:27 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
^ False.



True is false and false is true: The sad, shattered logic of the fascist trumptard.

It's both a cult and a mental illness.



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Saturday, April 3, 2021 7:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Lies aren't truth.

Lies aren't facts.

You and Second are liars. Everything you say is a lie.


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Saturday, April 3, 2021 7:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/546188-number-of-migrants
-detained-at-southern-border-reaches-15-year-high


Number of migrants detained at southern border reaches 15-year high: reports

That's a 15 year high, fucko.


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Monday, April 5, 2021 10:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/546188-number-of-migrants
-detained-at-southern-border-reaches-15-year-high


Number of migrants detained at southern border reaches 15-year high: reports

That's a 15 year high, fucko.

Newest figures are 20-year high, just for March.

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Thursday, April 15, 2021 8:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Either I had never heard the reports, or I was so unsurprised that I just forgot, that Obama had been teargassing Illegal Aliens at the Border.


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Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Biden is now referring to the border crisis as a crisis.

Mark your calendars.

What's next? Are we going to start calling BLM/Antifa Riots Riots now too?



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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Monday, April 19, 2021 11:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://www.thegazette.com/state-government/iowa-rejects-u-s-request-t
o-help-house-migrant-children
/

Quote:

Iowa rejects U.S. request to help house migrant children

Need to find homes ’is the president's problem,’ Reynolds tells radio audience



Good.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Monday, April 19, 2021 3:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
https://www.thegazette.com/state-government/iowa-rejects-u-s-request-t
o-help-house-migrant-children
/
Quote:

Iowa rejects U.S. request to help house migrant children

Need to find homes ’is the president's problem,’ Reynolds tells radio audience

Good.

With a depressed economy, IA could offer the efforts of hard-working Iowans to build more cages for the Obama/Biden/Harris regime. To b used at the border, or in Democrap-controlled Sanctuary States and Cities.

Iowa still has nights below freezing, so the cages are not as hospitable as in AZ, NM, TX, CA.

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Monday, October 4, 2021 2:32 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Bannons War Room sensationalism or facts?

https://rumble.com/vnb1ej-incoming-border-insurgence-has-texas-county-
on-high-alert.html


Incoming Border Insurgence Has Texas County On High Alert

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Thursday, December 2, 2021 9:58 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Thursday, January 27, 2022 2:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Last night it sounds like Tucker Carlson showed a video from body cam of Westchester Police. It showed hundreds of Unvaxxed Illegal Aliens offloading from a DHS plane in the middle of the night, with DHS ordering everybody to keep it secret.


The remote learning push of Libtard Karens has exposed to American parents the hideous poison that Union Teachers have been injecting into the minds of Public School Children.

Maybe the big push for Police Body Cams will result in more Libtard crimes being video recorded, and exposed.

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Saturday, February 5, 2022 4:25 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


The Jobs Report for January 2022 was released.

BLS gets their Civilian Population figures from The Census Bureau. Apparently, between December and January, CB discovered an extra million people it decided to include in it's population count. Of the millions of Invading Illegal Aliens, CB included a small portion of them as Civilian Population. They probably put it off as long as possible, but finally had to admit there are an unexpected millions more in America.
This seems to have escaped the Fake News Readers. I have not heard any mention of this facet, maybe it slipped under the Radar.

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Saturday, February 5, 2022 8:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. Democrats are cancer.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Saturday, April 16, 2022 5:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Lord Darth Obidens goons report 221,300 Border Crossing Incidents in March, the highest in 20 years. March 2019 were 103,000.
Fake News reports the figures are shocking.

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Monday, May 2, 2022 10:47 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


The Worst, Most Insipid and Incompetent Secretary of Homeland Security admitted that Border Patrol has let 1.6 million Criminal Illegal Aliens without Vaxx or even testing, since 21 Jan 2021. That is with Title 42 still in place.

While Congress is talking about Impeaching him after GOP takes House Majority.

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Tuesday, May 3, 2022 10:57 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Worst, Most Insipid and Incompetent Secretary of Homeland Security admitted that Border Patrol has let 1.6 million Criminal Illegal Aliens without Vaxx or even testing, since 21 Jan 2021. That is with Title 42 still in place.

While Congress is talking about Impeaching him after GOP takes House Majority.

And also, once Title 42 is deleted, they admit only half million Criminal Illegal Aliens invading PER MONTH.

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