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The Illegal Aliens Facts Thread

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 03:07
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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


We have gobs of threads here full of BS, and scrutinizing various facets of the issue using Minimum Resolution or Focus.

Somewhere it has been pointed out that actual data is hard to come by, largely because the info is intentionally obfuscated by Washington.
I have not been able to find that discussion, with all the piles of Troll Manure spread all over.

Recently I heard an audio clip of Trump speechifying, and he mentioned some figures which I've not heard before.
He was listing some of the Crime Stats of Illegal Aliens
One figure was 4,000 Murders perpetrated. It sounded like this could mean less than 4,000 Illegals had perpetrated, but the total Body Count was over 4,000. I didn't catch how many years this spanned.
I was surprised that this figure was suddenly available. Since valid data is hidden by Deep State Liberals, the figure surely cannot be refuted.

This number can provide us with a basis for further discussion.


We don't need to rehash here why the best policy is to shovel water uphill.


So I'm hoping for help in accumulating key pertinent information and data regarding actual results of failed Immigration Policy, such as Crimes perpetrated by Illegal Aliens, number of Illegal Aliens present, captured, deported, sanctuaries, and such.

I would be interested in how many $ are spent on Mexico Border Enforcement, and detention, Court costs.

How much is spent on Illegal Aliens, like Public Schools, hospitals, other services provided to Illegal Aliens.

And how many Points of Authorized Entry there are, along with how many or what percent of Illegal Entries are happening in each segment, or at least which States?

Plus breakdown of Asylum Seekers, whether Approved or not, whether Illegal Entry or not, etc.

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:24 AM

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:25 AM

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:25 AM

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 2:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There are many threads on people trying to cross the border that have veered off-topic into illegal aliens within the US, but this is the only thread about that topic per se.

From the LATimes:
Quote:


ICE raids spark fear, protests and questions about who will be swept up
By Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Cindy Carcamo, Matt Stiles, Andrea Castillo and Wendy Fry

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ice-raids-fear-trump-immigra
tion-20190713-story.html

Some migrant families directly in the storm’s path said they were too scared to evacuate. Balbina, 34, a Mexican immigrant who asked to be identified only by first name, has been living south of New Orleans illegally for 12 years. ... “I worry for my kids. I can try to protect them, but it’s a risk. If we go, we don’t know if we can return,” she said by phone from her home.There’s a 10 p.m. curfew in Houma, she said, but for migrants, “It’s like a curfew all the time.”

Why am I being asked to sympathize with people who've been living in the country ILLEGALLY (as per the article) FOR 12 YEARS?
And why do they keep calling them migrants throughout these articles and fail to use the proper descriptors: illegal, undocumented, aliens?
Quote:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ice-raids-push-immigrants
-unauthorized-legal-aid-20190713-story.html

• Advance notice of ICE raids may push immigrants toward unauthorized legal help
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-planned-immigration-rai
ds-20190711-story.html

• Trump’s threatened ICE raids could hearten his base, and terrify immigrants
Currently, there are about 1 million immigrants with final removal orders.




So.... About this "Caravan"
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62745&p=1

The Government Is Detaining and Interrogating Journalists and Advocates at the US-Mexico Border
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62986






And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 4:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Thanks for bumping the thread.


SOMEBODY has started this thread, and then forgot to construct it or finish the OP. Hmmmmmm. The past few months would have been pretty good time to do that, and then now is a busy time again. drat.

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
SOMEBODY has started this thread, and then forgot to construct it or finish the OP.

HA HA HA Ha ha ha ... !

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, btw, how are your log-in issues doing?

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Monday, July 15, 2019 5:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Oh, btw, how are your log-in issues doing?

I remember January. Ambitious, then got busy. Never caught back up before login problems further strangled my post production.
No improvement on login front. I'm told that I must buy a new phone to be able to login again. The same one I've had for a couple years now. Since none of the other "solutions" have worked, and I don't know details of what failure codes there are, I'm not planning to waste that cash really soon. The problem has something to do with google or Android, or so I am told.


Some of the facets of this thread are mentioned in this other thread:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62901

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Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:07 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh that's too bad!

FWIW my carrier decided to change their communication 'handling' software resulting in lots of fun! (not) At least they sent a warning that some functions on some phones would no longer work.

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