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Elisabeth Stineberg Owns Twitter and Democrats
Friday, January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:If you told lifelong Dems in 2019 that by 2022 they'd become single-issue voters for the other side, they would've said you were nuts. They also would've said you were nuts if you told them that after 2019 their opinions would be considered "right wing"... And yet, here we are! Did you question blue state covid policy? Poof! You're now a Republican. Wanted your kids in school? Welcome to the other side! Said Florida wasn't doing so bad and maybe we could lighten up a bit? Start putting up that DeSantis2024 yard sign!... They called you an unhinged granny killer faster than you could say "let it rip." But even after they cast you aside & told you to grab your guns & flee the coast with your fellow Rush Limbaugh-loving comrades, you weren't ready to privatize healthcare & head to the ballots... Even after they dragged your good name through the mud & gaslighted you till you couldn't tell the difference between science & reading tea leaves, you weren't ready to break out the MAGA cap. They'd broken your bleeding liberal heart, but they hadn't broken your woke spirit... They said you'd changed, but you knew you were the same person with the same values. The world might be upside down, but you still knew your place, no matter how right-wing it was to say that kids were not filthy vectors of disease. So you tried reasoning with them... You told them the kids weren't ok, they said kids are resilient. You told them WHO says no masks for 2 yr olds, they said their kids didn't complain. You told them schools in Europe were open, they said you wanted to kill teachers. You said test to stay, they said quarantine... You said learning loss, they said banana bread. You said extreme mandates, they banned kids from chuck e cheese. You said safety theater, they said abundance of caution. You said small businesses were suffering, they said it's better to not eat a cheeseburger than to be dead... You told them we were supposed to be the good guys, to care about civil liberties, education & children. You said you thought that's what you signed up for as a Dem. They said you were a covid denying conspiracy theorist and 800,000 people have died and it's a pandemic, stupid... You said you abandoned our kids and stole their childhood. They said we're just getting started. You said you're moving to Florida and voting Republican no matter what, they said you were hysterical and turning your back on everything you once stood for to own the libs... They pushed you into the arms of the enemy before the pajama class could say "we're all in this together." They took away everything, then said you were overreacting. They thought you'd get over it and forget. They were wrong.
Friday, January 14, 2022 8:16 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, January 14, 2022 10:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I don't recognize anything in this opinion piece. Maybe bc my child is no longer in school, but this all seems foreign to me. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Friday, January 14, 2022 11:14 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I don't recognize anything in this opinion piece. Maybe bc my child is no longer in school, but this all seems foreign to me.
Friday, January 14, 2022 11:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I don't recognize anything in this opinion piece. Maybe bc my child is no longer in school, but this all seems foreign to me. ??? WTF Have you been hibernating the past 2 years?
Friday, January 14, 2022 11:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I don't recognize anything in this opinion piece. Maybe bc my child is no longer in school, but this all seems foreign to me. ??? WTF Have you been hibernating the past 2 years? The statements mostly begin with "You said..." and then continue on about policies - such as masking in school - that I haven't given much (if any) thought to. Since most of it is about school-age children, I don't have coherent thoughts about any of it one way or another. The only thing I HAVE thought about is vaccine mandates for kids, which I think is ridiculous. If your child is particularly vulnerable- being treated for leukemia or has cystic fibrosis or Type I diabetes or has some other condition, then by all means, get him/her vaccinated. Otherwise, not. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Welcome to the politically homeless club, Elizabeth. I have a feeling that one way or another a majority of us will find our way here.
Friday, January 14, 2022 11:59 PM
Saturday, January 15, 2022 12:29 PM
Saturday, January 15, 2022 2:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I try not to have unthought-out opinions or reactions to anything. That's how people get bamboozled, yanno... by reacting with their feelz instead of their brains. At one time, the alt right was all in favor of homeschooling bc public schools were just indoctrination centers. They were full of examples how homeschooling produced superior results. And I was sort of convinced. Until junior high (middle school) science and algebra I never learned anything that I hadn't learned at home, and since I was so shy I didn't really participate socially in school, altho in my neigborhood I had a lot of friends. NOW they're in favor of packing their kids off to school?
Quote:Seems oppositional just for the sake of being oppostional, and I just can't track that change of opinion. I understand NEEDING to send your kids to school bc you have a job to go to, but that's not what she's saying.
Saturday, January 15, 2022 2:27 PM
Saturday, January 15, 2022 2:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "They" are alt-right or the ultra-religious, not "republicans". I thought I made that clear from my very first sentence. Well, forigive me, but I just don't grok her POV. She's an outraged democrat? I'm not. I guess I get her point, but I don't feel her feelz. Are you going to punish me now for not feeling along with her?
Saturday, January 15, 2022 4:04 PM
Saturday, January 15, 2022 5:46 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, January 15, 2022 7:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Signy, you forgot the first rule of disagreeing with Jack about anything. Jack is god-like in his omniscience and his fragile snowflake ego won't let you forget it ... or else.
Saturday, January 15, 2022 10:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I see it differently. She feels outraged and betrayed by her party about specific decisions. But it's like me reading about someone who feels betrayed by the Democrats because they banned chadors, or something. The specific policies about school-age children don't resonate with me personally, and I haven't thought about it enough to develop an opinion, whether the decisions were really harmful to children or not. And frankly, when I was young I would have rather skipped school so for me, being made to stay out of school would have been a big plus. Our daughter was never a good fit for school either, she always did better with 1:1 and I always felt badly that we had to warehouse her bc I was working. There were only three teachers in 12 years of school that ever did her any good, and she didn't learn much socially, either. My reaction has little to do with Covid and more to do with school in general. Plus, when the dems have outraged me on so many more important issues that it's hard to feel outrage anymore, her rant just seems rather trivial. So I'm glad she's seen the light, but I'm not going to get out my pitchfork and flambeau to join her. But by all means, feel free to join her if you want.
Quote:BTW, I'm not shutting my brain off. I understand what she's saying. You're just pissed off that I don't FEEL pissed off along with you (both). If I think about it, and do some reading, and learn that -yes, it's important for most kids to go to school and this has done some real damage, I will probably feel irritated on their behalf, but right now the most I can work up is ... "Oh, OK.".
Saturday, January 15, 2022 11:44 PM
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