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Another high-profile young person with auto-immune disease post Covid

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Wednesday, August 7, 2024 1:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Daisy Ridley just came out and told everyone she's got Grave's Disease.

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a61690215/daisy-ridley-graves-d
isease-swim-training
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32 years old. Vegan. Doesn't drink. Doesn't smoke. Works out an hour every day since she was 20 years old.

Auto-immune disease comes out of left field and makes her an involuntary customer to Big Pharma for the rest of her life.


I have a bad feeling about this.

If you know a kid that's on their way into medical school, you may want to heavily suggest they get into Endocrinology. I think we're going to need a whole lot of Endocrinologists soon.

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Wednesday, August 7, 2024 1:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Good thing I was dx with autoimmune disease and cancer BEFORE the vaccine.

Sometimes shit just happens.

BTW it's rheumatology that deals with autoimmune diseases. Tell them to go into that. But only if they're really smart. It's so complicated, with too many moving parts.



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Wednesday, August 7, 2024 2:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Good thing I was dx with autoimmune disease and cancer BEFORE the vaccine.

Sometimes shit just happens.

BTW it's rheumatology that deals with autoimmune diseases. Tell them to go into that. But only if they're really smart. It's so complicated, with too many moving parts.




Yup. Sometimes shit does just happen.

My cousin, who is very health conscious, has been trying to have kids has had 3 miscarriages in 2 years. Her younger brother by less than 2 years, also in shape, was diagnosed with Leukemia at 30 years old. My aunt who has done psychical labor all her life and is in great shape for her age gets diagnosed with pre-diabetes. My grandma, who was never hospitalized for anything outside of hip surgery 10 years ago, gets a cancer diagnosis on her birthday and is dead 2 weeks later. My friend's dad who was 72 and had calves as thick as tree trunks gets a cancer diagnosis and dies 5 months later. I got LADA diabetes, and I didn't even get the vaccine. I was just surrounded by people who did and who gave it to me.

I'm not saying that auto-immune issues didn't exist pre-covid. That would just be stupid.

But that's a whole lot of bad news in a very short amount of time.

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Wednesday, August 7, 2024 11:12 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Good thing I was dx with autoimmune disease and cancer BEFORE the vaccine.

Sometimes shit just happens.

BTW it's rheumatology that deals with autoimmune diseases. Tell them to go into that. But only if they're really smart. It's so complicated, with too many moving parts.

SIX: Yup. Sometimes shit does just happen.

My cousin, who is very health conscious, has been trying to have kids has had 3 miscarriages in 2 years. Her younger brother by less than 2 years, also in shape, was diagnosed with Leukemia at 30 years old.

when was this? Just recently?

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My aunt who has done psychical labor all her life and is in great shape for her age gets diagnosed with pre-diabetes.
You also said she drank a lot of soda.
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My grandma, who was never hospitalized for anything outside of hip surgery 10 years ago, gets a cancer diagnosis on her birthday and is dead 2 weeks later.
My friend at work was dxd with pancreatic cancer and was dead in two months. He was 50, in good shape, and this was well before Covid.

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My friend's dad who was 72 and had calves as thick as tree trunks gets a cancer diagnosis and dies 5 months later.

My MIL was dx with heart failure AND cancer and died of cancer. She was 67, and that was 30 years ago.

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I got LADA diabetes, and I didn't even get the vaccine. I was just surrounded by people who did and who gave it to me.
Except you didn't get it from the vaccine, you got it from someone who got Covid.

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I'm not saying that auto-immune issues didn't exist pre-covid. That would just be stupid.
But that's a whole lot of bad news in a very short amount of time.

Yes, it is.

I hate to tell you this, but cancer at the age of 70 or 80 ... not unheard of! Cancer with a short survival rate? That's cancer that's been dxd at late stage. Some cancers are notorious for being asymptomatic until very late stage: pancreatic, colorectal, lung, and ovarian cancers, to name a few. But for people who don't get regular screenings for the most common cancers (breast, prostate, colorectal) EVERY cancer is diagnosed at a late stage. It is wildly unlikely that your grandma and friend's dad developed a sudden malignancy that went into hyperdrive in two years. Most likely they were harboring a cancer for years before diagnosis.

Your aunt. Prediabetes? Pfffft! If 15%+ of her daily calories come from sugar and have been for a long time ... she's lucky that's ALL she's got! It's a trivial diagnosis and not indicating anything except the need to change her diet.

Now, to your female cousin and her brother (which would also make him your cousin, right?)
Are you dating this all happened since end of 2021/ start of 2022?

Against your anecdotes, I pose my niece, an ER doctor, who was vaccinated while pregnant and delivered a healthy baby girl, and a healthy baby boy since.

Autoimmune disorders run in families. My mom apparently died of an autoimmune disorder (idiopathic lung fibrosis by autopsy) and I have autoimmune disorders and so does my sister. Anyone blood related to your mom has a higher chance of autoimmunity too.


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Thursday, August 8, 2024 12:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You work for Pfizer then, do you?

Nobody mentioned is related to my mom. They're all on my dad's side and they were all healthy before Covid vaccinations.

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Thursday, August 8, 2024 9:04 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You work for Pfizer then, do you?

Nobody mentioned is related to my mom.


Except you. And you're the ONE PERSON in this tale of woe that developed an autoimmune condition, and AFAIK the ONE PERSON who DIDN'T get vaccinated. So you can't even blame the vaccine for your condition.
And, no, you can't "catch" a vaccine.

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SIX: They're all on my dad's side and they were all healthy before Covid vaccinations.
No, they were all UNDIAGNOSED before vaccination.

Three developed cancer.
Not autoimmunity.

Two were elderly people diagnosed with cancer.
Color me shocked.
Not.
It's common for many cancers to be diagnosed late bc by the time people have undeniable symptoms its too late. Very few cancers herald themselves like melanoma. And many people paused their medical care during the pandemic bc they didn't want to be stuck in waiting rooms full of sick people, and they didn't get dxd until late. I don't know if that's what happened to your grandma and your friend's dad, but that's what happened to me: I didn't go in for my mammogram altho I'd had a couple abnormal screenings and biopsies there before (all false alarms. Altho I DID develop cancer right on a previous surgical site, which makes me wonder if the surgical biopsy itself triggered cancer.) For me, all that ws BEFORE the vaccine.

Your aunt with prediabetes? Given the amount of soda you said she drinks, I'm not surprised. You can't overload your pancreas with sugar for years ... decades?... without consequence. But it's a nothing diagnosis, and AFAIK the only reason she got one is bc you pushed her into it. She could just have easily gone 20 years OR MORE without a dx.

Those stories can be safely ignored.

IDK about leukemia and failure to carry to term. Those conditions existed before Covid and before the vaccine. It's a gray area, and stats can tell us what happened to 1000 people, but not any to individual. I didn't address those bc I honestly don't know. All I asked was for more info. But thanks for putring words in my mouth.

I know you want to blame everything on the vaccine, but, seriously?

Ironically, you're the one person that may be an actual case of Covid induced autoimmunity. There are case studies of that happening.

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Thursday, August 8, 2024 10:22 AM

THG


14.9 million excess deaths associated with the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 and 2021

https://www.who.int/news/item/05-05-2022-14.9-million-excess-deaths-we
re-associated-with-the-covid-19-pandemic-in-2020-and-2021


A new study estimates that COVID-19 vaccines helped avert 19.8 million deaths across the globe during the first year after vaccination campaigns were initiated.

The study found that vaccine inequity resulted in a disproportionately higher number of deaths prevented by vaccination in high-income nations than in lower-income nations.

Several low-income nations failed to meet the World Health Organization (WHO) target of vaccinating 40% of their populations and achieving this target could have doubled the number of lives saved in those regions.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-vaccines-saved-20-m
illion-lives-in-1-year




This is how you deal with stupid people like Jack. So Jack, how many people died because of the vaccine?

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Thursday, August 8, 2024 12:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You work for Pfizer then, do you?

Nobody mentioned is related to my mom.


Except you. And you're the ONE PERSON in this tale of woe that developed an autoimmune condition, and AFAIK the ONE PERSON who DIDN'T get vaccinated. So you can't even blame the vaccine for your condition.
And, no, you can't "catch" a vaccine.



You didn't get a vaccine.

Up until 2020, vaccines prevented you from getting an illness.

I was vaccinated for Mumps and Measles and Tetanus.

I never got Mumps or Measles or Tetanus.

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Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:08 PM

SIGNYM

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I got got the Covid 'vaccine' before I started cancer treatment on advice of ALL of my doctors. That was late 2021. BTW I may have actually had Covid very early on, before there were even hospital tests for it. This would have been very early 2020, I think. Long story.

SIX, even very good vaccines aren't as black and white as you think. Every vaccine has a failure rate.


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Primary vaccine failure to routine vaccines: Why and what to do?
About 2–10% of healthy individuals fail to mount antibody levels to routine vaccines.
... Non-responsiveness increases with age and in particular vaccination to a novel vaccine in persons > 65 years is associated with a high low/non-responder rate, indicating that vaccine schedules and doses (at least for primary vaccination) should be adapted according to age.

In light of the growing number of allergic but also obese people, our current studies concentrate on these risk groups to reveal whether different vaccination approaches are necessary for optimal protection compared to healthy individuals. These studies are in line with the significant paradigm shift taking place in many fields of medical research and care, and will extend the concept of personalised medicine into the field of vaccinology.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4962729/

Even well- established vaccines have side effects, and one of those side effects is actually making an illness WORSE in some vaccinated people

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Vaccine-associated enhanced disease
Vaccine-associated enhanced respiratory (VAERD) disease refers to disease with predominant involvement of the lower respiratory tract. Classic examples of VAED are atypical measles and enhanced respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) occurring after administration of inactivated vaccine for these pathogens. In this situation, severe disease has been documented resulting from infection in individuals primed with non-protective immune responses against the respective wild-type viruses


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7901381/

ALL vaccines have side effects, sometimes life- altering side effects. Doctors withheld the pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine from our daughter bc of its high neurological complication rate, and at that time when I was active on the Child Neurology webforum of Mass General I met a women online whose son was brained- burned by the pertussis vaccine, and subsequently met a girl in her special class who had the same complication.

The polio vaccine sometimes causes non- polio flaccid paralysis.


Was NEVER a fan of the HPV vaccine, for example. It had a high complication rate, and was being used to prevent an easily treatable diesease (cervical cancer) in a relatively small subset of infected women. Applying my "risk of doing something [HPV vaccine] v risk of doing nothing" I found the risk of doing something too high, and the risk of doing nothing easily mitigated.

AFA the Covid vaccine, applying the same metric, the personal risk of doing something was smaller than the risk of doing nothing, [severe disease] bc I'm elderly, with (mild) diabetes but overweight, and my immune system was about to get nailed.

But bc of its failure to prevent infection, IMHO the vaccine was always about SELF protection, not "herd protection", and for people with no risk factors it didn't make any sense for them to get it, and even less sense for it to be mandated.


So I thought the mandate was a crazy, fascist- like government and employer overreach.

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But, to be clear, I can imagine a situation where there is a deadly disease ... say, airborne Ebola ... spreading like wildfire and people of all ages are keeling over in pools of blood. What then?

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Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I got got the Covid 'vaccine' before I started cancer treatment on advice of ALL of my doctors. That was late 2021. BTW I may have actually had Covid very early on, before there were even hospital tests for it. This would have been very early 2020, I think. Long story.

SIX, even very good vaccines aren't as black and white as you think. Every vaccine has a failure rate.



The Covid "vaccine" had a 100% failure rate.

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Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:53 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I got got the Covid 'vaccine' before I started cancer treatment on advice of ALL of my doctors. That was late 2021. BTW I may have actually had Covid very early on, before there were even hospital tests for it. This would have been very early 2020, I think. Long story.

SIX, even very good vaccines aren't as black and white as you think. Every vaccine has a failure rate.



The Covid "vaccine" had a 100% failure rate.



So you claim.

If the goal was to prevent disease, yes.
If the goal was to mitigate disease in at risk individuals, on balance it was a success.
Unfortunately it was "sold" to the public and mandated as goal #1.


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