Joey is on the way! by Litwolf689

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Joey is on the way!

POSTED BY: LITWOLF689
UPDATED: Friday, September 10, 2004 15:17
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Monday, September 6, 2004 1:50 PM

I know its not a science fiction or fantasy series but I just thought that I should remind people that Joey, the spin-off series of Friends, will premiere (sp?) on September 9th, in about three days.

It might not be as good as Friends, but Im still going to check it out anyway. I mean, what have I got to lose and besides, its Joey! Who does not love joey! Cute, funny, what's not to love!

Will anyone care to join me? ^_^

"Two roads diverged in a wood and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW! I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." ~Joss

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Monday, September 6, 2004 4:33 PM

CREVANREAVER

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Originally posted by Litwolf689:
Who does not love joey! Cute, funny, what's not to love!

I absolutely hated that stupid show, Friends. Every time I tried to watch it, I could barely get through it. It wasn't even remotely funny.

What I most especially hated was the obviously racist casting that was done on the silly show. As a minority I was completely offended the way they portrayed New York City to be a city of nothing but upper-class white people.

And when they finally gave a person of color a significant role, Aisha Tyler, their pandering was so blatant, I was even more offended how they used her as such a token!

I hope that shit show Joey fails quickly!

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Monday, September 6, 2004 6:51 PM

BARCLAY

While I don't feel so strongly about it, I would love to see Joey flop and fall flat on its face. As a supporter of intelligent, smart, creative, non-derivative programming, a non-intelligent, non-smart, non-creative, derivative, spin off. Maybe NBC would be forced to take a chance on a new series mid-season, that isn't a re-hash of a previous show. How horrible.

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Monday, September 6, 2004 6:57 PM

DEANNAMAY

I like intelligent shows, but after stressful 12 hour shifts at the hospital taking care of drug addicts and people in pain, it is nice to come home and watch something uncomplicated. I liked friends, found it humorous, and I plan on watching Joey as well.

What can I say, I am eccletic, and prefer a wide assortment of entertainment options.

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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 12:01 AM

GROUNDED

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:

What I most especially hated was the obviously racist casting that was done on the silly show. As a minority I was completely offended the way they portrayed New York City to be a city of nothing but upper-class white people.

Are you serious? You're saying they all sat down in casting and said "let's not hire any minority actors"? How cynical.

Not that I really care about Friends any more - it was good for the first few years and then it took a drastic nosedive.

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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 10:25 AM

LITWOLF689

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
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Originally posted by Litwolf689:
Who does not love joey! Cute, funny, what's not to love!

I absolutely hated that stupid show, Friends. Every time I tried to watch it, I could barely get through it. It wasn't even remotely funny.

What I most especially hated was the obviously racist casting that was done on the silly show. As a minority I was completely offended the way they portrayed New York City to be a city of nothing but upper-class white people.

And when they finally gave a person of color a significant role, Aisha Tyler, their pandering was so blatant, I was even more offended how they used her as such a token!

I hope that shit show Joey fails quickly!

If you hate the show that much, why are you on this thread?

Anyway, I dont see what you mean by a racist. And maybe you should concentrate more on the plot and humor than on the structre of the show. But, hey, if want to be narrow minded like that, that's your problem, not mine.

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Originally posted by Barclay:
While I don't feel so strongly about it, I would love to see Joey flop and fall flat on its face. As a supporter of intelligent, smart, creative, non-derivative programming, a non-intelligent, non-smart, non-creative, derivative, spin off. Maybe NBC would be forced to take a chance on a new series mid-season, that isn't a re-hash of a previous show. How horrible.

Its all right to say what you think and please dont think Im disrespecting your opinion, but sometime, I watch a show or a movie just to laugh at it. I dont care about the plot, i just need a good laugh.

And who knows, I could be wrong: Joey could turn out to be the worst show of all time and would even be stupid to me, but all Im saying is, try to give it chance. At the risk of quoting my mother, you cant say you hate something with out trying it first.

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Originally posted by Dennamay:
I like intelligent shows, but after stressful 12 hour shifts at the hospital taking care of drug addicts and people in pain, it is nice to come home and watch something uncomplicated. I liked friends, found it humorous, and I plan on watching Joey as well.

What can I say, I am eccletic, and prefer a wide assortment of entertainment options.

thank you for you kind comments.

I hope that anyone else that comes to this thread thinking that Joey is going to be a stupid show without even trying it first will change their mind and look outside the box.

"Two roads diverged in a wood and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW! I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." ~Joss

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Friday, September 10, 2004 11:44 AM

LITWOLF689

Just wanted to say that Joey premiered last night! Me and my mom sat down and watched it and, while it was not as funny as Friends, it still made me laugh. I think that this should run a great season however I also think that only big and true fans of the original series will be able to enjoy it.

I hope you will give this show a chance because it certinaly brightened up my day!

"Two roads diverged in a wood and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW! I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." ~Joss

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Friday, September 10, 2004 12:25 PM

SERGEANTX

ok... I know I'm supposed to be nice, cause you're a fellow browncoat and all that. But.... mindless crap like this and your willingness to watch it is exactly why Firefly was cancelled. They have no incentive to strive for anything better if you're sitting there in a stupor absorbing their commercials. PLEASE STOP!!!!

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, September 10, 2004 12:51 PM

LITWOLF689

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
ok... I know I'm supposed to be nice, cause you're a fellow browncoat and all that. But.... mindless crap like this and your willingness to watch it is exactly why Firefly was cancelled. They have no incentive to strive for anything better if you're sitting there in a stupor absorbing their commercials. PLEASE STOP!!!!

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

Please tell me because I am now DYING to know why watching shows like Joey is a reason that Firefly was cancelled.

Shows like Firefly and shows like Joey are so far different from each other that you cant put them in the same league at all. Im not saying that one is better than the other, its just that they are so different that you cant rank them against each other. You could rank Joey against Friends, Will and Grace, and Raymond or you could rank Firefly against Buffy/Angel, Tru Calling, and Lost, but you cant expect them to go head to head and get a fair winner.

Its just a matter opinion. Your allowed to like different shows other than Firefly. It all comes down to what you like. And I dont think you should get mad at people for liking other things. if everyone was the same and liked the same thing, there would be only one type of tv show on the air, but because everyone is not the same, there is a great variety of shows.

Please dont shout at me for being different, I like being unique.

"Two roads diverged in a wood and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW! I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." ~Joss

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Friday, September 10, 2004 12:51 PM

SUCCATASH

As nicely as possible, I would like to say I'm with Sarge on this one. COMPLETELY.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Friday, September 10, 2004 12:53 PM

SUCCATASH

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Originally posted by Litwolf689:
I like being unique.

Watching Joey makes you the opposite of unique.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Friday, September 10, 2004 1:18 PM

SHOEFLY

Let me first say I watched Joey and it made me laugh as well.

Now even though it does not have nearly as much originality in it as Firefly, I still support it and any show that at least takes a chance on using writers to create a form of escapism (which I think most forms of entertainment are on some level) for me to enjoy. If you like reality programming fine, but if I want reality I will live my life, I don't want to have reality to escape to. And IMO reality shows have a greater share in the reason why superb shows like Firefly are cancelled. That is reality gets good ratings (typically) at low cost and quickly, whereas a show like Firefly is more expensive, and usually takes a longer time for high ratings, not to mention decent network support to get there (FOX

).

Sorry, a little ranty I 'm done

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Friday, September 10, 2004 1:30 PM

BAYBREEZE

OK, I MUST put my two cents in on this one! And I've got a couple of things to say.

First off, it is the wave of "reality" TV that hurts new, daring, intelligent shows like Firefly. It is one of the main reasons Angel didn't make it to another season. They are easy and cheap to produce, and unfortunately, appeal to the basest parts of people. Their popularity is staggering, and unfortunately, I don't see any waning of this, quite the opposite in fact. And we know that the networks will pander to that bottom denominator, whatever it takes to make the bucks! And, God help us, "reality" TV is what is making the bucks (and killing shows like Firefly).

Ok, now my other point. I have stopped defending myself to ingnorant people who say to me, "What? You watch Buffy? Angel? etc. Why would you spend your time on that junk?" These people either a. never watched a Joss show and so have no clue what they are talking about or b. have watched, and it's not for them. For those in the "a" category, I say, "Bite me" You can't speak on something you don't know. For those in the "b" category, I say, that's fine. What appeals to me may not appeal to you. We are allowed to have different opinions. However, I would never dis someone because they like something different than me, or because they have a different opinion.

I've been around since the days of the Dick Van Dycke (sp) show (one of the first and best sitcoms ever) and have seen the best and worst of how they have evolved. For every MASH, there is a Hope and Glory. Friends was a fun show. It will indeed rank up there somewhere in terms of sitcoms. Did it go on too long, perhaps. Did I go in and out of it, yes. But it was, at all times, fun. And sometimes, I just need fun. My TV watching is much like my reading. When I choose to be challenged or made to think, I pick up certain authors and books. When I choose to just have fun and be entertained, I pick up others. There is nothing wrong with just wanting to be entertained, as long as it is balanced.

Ok, I've got more to say, but I've gone on too long. SOMEBODY GET ME OFF THIS SOAPBOX!!! I'll just close by saying that I enjoy different things. And it is because people like different things that shows like Buffy, Angel and Firefly got a chance in the first place. It is the network mucky mucks forgetting to balance their programing, and not allowing other, intelligent (and fun) shows to produce that gets in the way.

PS. I'm going to give Joey a chance, just cause it might be fun!

My days of not takin' you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

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Friday, September 10, 2004 2:15 PM

BIKISDAD

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Originally posted by shoeFly:
Let me first say I watched Joey and it made me laugh as well.

Now even though it does not have nearly as much originality in it as Firefly, I still support it and any show that at least takes a chance on using writers to create a form of escapism (which I think most forms of entertainment are on some level) for me to enjoy. If you like reality programming fine, but if I want reality I will live my life, I don't want to have reality to escape to. And IMO reality shows have a greater share in the reason why superb shows like Firefly are cancelled. That is reality gets good ratings (typically) at low cost and quickly, whereas a show like Firefly is more expensive, and usually takes a longer time for high ratings, not to mention decent network support to get there (FOX).

Sorry, a little ranty I 'm done

I agree with you that reality shows are why Firefly and Angel were cancelled. In fact, I watched the premiere of "Joey" last night for one reason only - EVERYTHING ELSE ON AT THE SAME TIME WAS A BUNCH OF INSIPID REALITY SHOWS.

As to "Joey", I thought it was better than "Friends" had been for the last three years, but that doesn't make it good. Except for the opening joke (What are you doing in Dallas?), it wasn't all that funny. But given a choice of that or all the reality crap... oh yeah, I went back to reading my Tom Clancy book, "The Bear and the Dragon". It's much better than anything on tv these days.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Friday, September 10, 2004 2:30 PM

SERGEANTX

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But given a choice of that or all the reality crap... oh yeah, I went back to reading my Tom Clancy book, "The Bear and the Dragon". It's much better than anything on tv these days.

Now THAT's what I'm talking about. If nothing good is on, turn the television off. I was worried that maybe the new sets don't allow that option.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, September 10, 2004 3:17 PM

BIKISDAD

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Originally posted by SergeantX:

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But given a choice of that or all the reality crap... oh yeah, I went back to reading my Tom Clancy book, "The Bear and the Dragon". It's much better than anything on tv these days.

Now THAT's what I'm talking about. If nothing good is on, turn the television off. I was worried that maybe the new sets don't allow that option.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

It's not really that the sets don't allow that option. It's more that many people don't seem to know that turning off their tv set IS an option.

I get your point, and you're absolutely right: If the only material on tv is stupid crap, then get your entertainment from sources that still exhibit/require intelligent thought - books are a good example, but only one of many. I used to read a lot, but I started watching more tv a few years ago because shows like "Buffy", then "Angel", Farscape" and "Firefly" were on. Guess what!. They're ALL gone now. Time to go back to he books...

And yes, that also means that these eyes will not be watching all of the dumb commercials imbedded in all of the dumb shows. I know this is just a fantasy but.... imagine if all the people who currently just run the tv out of habit would turn the damned thing off unless there was something on that they actually liked... Think how that would change the programming landscape.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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