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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:00 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump’s Speech Had 1 Eerie Parallel To Nixon’s Final State Of The Union

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-nixon-state-of-the-union_us_5c5bbd1
6e4b00187b5583133

President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address on Tuesday contained a callback to one delivered by President Richard Nixon when he was under investigation in the Watergate scandal.

“The time has come to bring that investigation and the other investigations of this matter to an end,” Nixon said on Jan. 30, 1974.

Trump on Tuesday also demanded an end to investigations against him and his administration.

“If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation,” Trump said. “It just doesn’t work that way.”

NowThis created a mashup of the two speeches:
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-nixon-state-of-the-union_us_5c5bbd1
6e4b00187b5583133

Less than four months after Nixon’s demand, the House Judiciary Committee began hearings on articles of impeachment against Nixon.

By the end of July 1974, the committee approved the articles of impeachment by a vote of 27-11, with six Republicans joining all of the Democrats on the committee.

A full vote in the House never took place as Nixon announced his resignation on Aug. 8, 1974, effective at noon the following day.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:16 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Do Right, Be Right. :)

What I am telling you is that Congress is extremely slow about everything important. 45 years has passed since Nixon, but Congress has only gotten slower because there is no Vietnam War fiasco to motivate them to fire the idiot that is running a war. Congress couldn't bring themselves to end Nixon in 90 days or less, like any board of directors would quickly fire a CEO that was not performing. Right now there really isn't a powerful motivation for Congress to quickly fire Trump because he has not yet screwed up his equivalent of the Vietnam War. I suppose if Trump invaded Mexico to stop illegal aliens, since he can't get funding for his Texas Wall, Congress would start moving on impeachment because it would be motivated to get rid of him by Trump's stupidity and incompetence.

Now that I think about a Trump/Mexico War for 10 minutes, that War would have to run for at least 2 years before Congress would admit the US Army was losing, increasing the flow of illegals into the US, and unnecessarily killing thousands of civilians. The 2020 election will be here before then. Congress won't impeach until after Trump wins a second term.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:59 PM (P)

There would be no point to a US/Mexico war, and the idea is laughable.

Consider me the crow eater of the year if you're right and Trump is such an evil mastermind that he can convince his voting base that the answer to our problems is going to war with Mexico.

Right now I'm filing that under "Not gonna happen in a million years".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:01 PM (P)

This is why literacy is so important.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:21 PM (P)

I agree. You should start practicing it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:51 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There would be no point to a US/Mexico war, and the idea is laughable.

Consider me the crow eater of the year if you're right and Trump is such an evil mastermind that he can convince his voting base that the answer to our problems is going to war with Mexico.

Right now I'm filing that under "Not gonna happen in a million years".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is laughable and that is why Trump will not be impeached in the next two years: he can't commit an act big enough to get him removed from office fast. That is not because Trump is wise but because it is impossible to make a big and dumb enough mistake to get Congress to move forward in less than two years. Both the Vietnam and Iraq Wars had been run incompetently for many years before a majority in Congress got fed up with the President's stupidity. Congress does not do fast and furious reaction to events. But Trump does many laughable things that his voters can't understand are better jokes for TV comedians than they are policy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:24 PM (P)

Only 2,276 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002036

SECOND

Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:50 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,276 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting.

You could have stopped years ago listing days because Pelosi said she won't allow the House to vote for impeachment. She is delighted with four years of Trump shoving his head up the ass of every Trump voter, just as much as the Trump voters are, but Pelosi's reasons are different. And McConnell won't let a trial in the Senate end with Trump's conviction.
www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/trump-impeachment-talk-pelosi-244336

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:55 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There would be no point to a US/Mexico war, and the idea is laughable.

Consider me the crow eater of the year if you're right and Trump is such an evil mastermind that he can convince his voting base that the answer to our problems is going to war with Mexico.

Right now I'm filing that under "Not gonna happen in a million years".

Do Right, Be Right. :)
It is laughable and that is why Trump will not be impeached in the next two years: he can't commit an act big enough to get him removed from office fast. That is not because Trump is wise but because it is impossible to make a big and dumb enough mistake to get Congress to move forward in less than two years. Both the Vietnam and Iraq Wars had been run incompetently for many years before a majority in Congress got fed up with the President's stupidity. Congress does not do fast and furious reaction to events. But Trump does many laughable things that his voters can't understand are better jokes for TV comedians than they are policy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:58 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:You could have stopped years ago listing days because Pelosi said she won't allow the House to vote for impeachment. She is delighted with four years of Trump shoving his head up the ass of every Trump voter, just as much as the Trump voters are, but Pelosi's reasons are different. And McConnell won't let a trial in the Senate end with Trump's conviction.

Seriously, why would the Dems want to get rid of Trump when he's in the process of destroying the GOP and energizing more undecideds to vote for "anything but GOP." He's a free 5 times daily advertisement for why the GOP is evil and needs to die and at the same time a cautionary tale for Dems.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, February 7, 2019 11:01 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.

Riiiiight. Like Jimmy - failed-comedian-can-only-get-a-laugh-from-some-low-forehead-losers-on-a-free-platform-like-Youtube - Cricket is so hilarious.

SECOND

Thursday, February 7, 2019 11:31 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If Mueller proves Trump took $1 billion from Putin, Trump voters would approve because a rich man can't be bribed. It means Trump cheated the Russians out of that billion, which makes him a great businessman.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Friday, February 8, 2019 3:44 AM (P)

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Donald Trump Cries ‘Presidential Harassment’ Over Upcoming Investigations

SECOND

Friday, February 8, 2019 6:37 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Donald Trump Cries ‘Presidential Harassment’ Over Upcoming Investigations

Nixon got caught cheating on his taxes while he was President. Trump does not want to end like Nixon did: paying what he owes. That is why Trump is bitching about harassment from Democrats wanting his tax returns.
www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

Quote:
Nixon's greatest concern with the IRS audit and the JCT investigation was that fraud might be charged, thereby imposing a civil fraud penalty of 50 percent of the tax deficiency, increasing his chances for impeachment. Amazingly, fraud was not mentioned either by the IRS or by the committee report. However, the House Judiciary Committee, which was considering the impeachment of Nixon, stated that it might investigate the possibility of tax fraud.

By agreeing to pay $465,000, Nixon's wealth was reduced to half of the previous $988,522. One White House spokesman stated that Nixon was "almost totally wiped out" by the agreement (WSJ, Apr. 5, 1974). However, Nixon was fortunate to have had $433,000 in liquid assets to pay the tax deficiency.

Trump does NOT want his wealth cut in half as was Nixon's.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

REAVERFAN

Friday, February 8, 2019 7:26 AM (P)

He also doesn't want to be convicted of treason.

SECOND

Friday, February 8, 2019 6:20 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
He also doesn't want to be convicted of treason.

Nixon committed treason, but proof that would stand up in a court room came only after Nixon was already dead. If there is proof against Trump, I believe it will arrive many years too late.
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-con
spired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461

On the other hand, proof arrived after only a few years that Nixon cheated many times on his taxes, even while he was President. Trump has already been caught several times cheating on his taxes, in the amount of $550 million, but the time limit for prosecuting him was past. I believe that Trump continued to cheat. The proof would be in tax returns for which the time limit has not expired for prosecution. Those tax returns that Trump is keeping top secret could be evidence of tax fraud.
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, February 8, 2019 6:31 PM (P)

Eighteen years before Special Counsel Robert Mueller began his investigation into foreign interference in a U.S. election, Palmer warned Congress about Russian “political donations to U.S. politicians and political parties to obtain influence.” What was at stake could well be systemic contagion: Russian values might infect and then weaken the moral defense systems of American politics and business.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/how-kleptocracy-came-to-a
merica/580471/
Russian-Style Kleptocracy Is Infiltrating America

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) exposed some of the biggest flaws and loopholes in campaign finance laws this week and she did it in just five minutes. During a hearing, the freshman lawmaker created a game in which she pretended to be “a really, really bad guy” who wants to abuse the system as much as possible. She revealed how it was perfectly legal for a lawmaker to invest in an industry, then write laws to benefit that industry and increase the value of the investment. As lax as the laws are for members of Congress, there are even fewer restrictions for a president.

More at www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-campaign-finance
_us_5c5d246be4b03afe8d6637ff

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

REAVERFAN

Friday, February 8, 2019 11:48 PM (P)

GOP Warns That Releasing Trump’s Taxes Could Lead to More Transparency
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/gop-warns-releasing-trumps-taxe
s-could-lead-to-transparency.html

REAVERFAN

Saturday, February 9, 2019 5:07 AM (P)

Maria Butina Isn't Done Cooperating With U.S. Prosecutors
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-08/maria-butina-still-
not-done-cooperating-with-u-s-prosecutors?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_content=politics&utm_source=twitter

Prosecutors and Butina’s lawyers told a Washington federal judge Friday that since her cooperation isn’t complete, they’re not ready to suggest a date for sentencing.

Just three days ago, Butina’s boyfriend, conservative political operative Paul Erickson, was indicted on wire-fraud and money-laundering charges by a federal grand jury in South Dakota.

Butina’s lawyers and the prosecutors jointly asked U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan to postpone a scheduled Feb. 12 hearing to Feb. 26. Chutkan granted their request in an order issued 45 minutes later.

The Russian plot is being exposed.

THG

Saturday, February 9, 2019 5:17 AM (P)

tick tock

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 9, 2019 8:13 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.

Riiiiight. Like Jimmy - failed-comedian-can-only-get-a-laugh-from-some-low-forehead-losers-on-a-free-platform-like-Youtube - Cricket is so hilarious.

He's funnier than either of your Jimmy's.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, February 9, 2019 9:07 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's funnier than either of your Jimmy's.

My Jimmy's - huh? Who are my Jimmy's? Fallon? Kimmel maybe? Just guessing - don't watch them, from the little I've seen don't much care for either one's show or their "humor." You have a very simple way of looking at things. Maybe you meant "'jammies?"

REAVERFAN

Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:30 AM (P)

Legal Expert: Trump Engaged in a ‘Multi-State Criminal Conspiracy’ to Violate Immigration and Human Trafficking Laws
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-expert-trump-engaged-in-a-m
ulti-state-criminal-conspiracy-to-violate-immigration-and-human-trafficking-laws/

Oh, dear.

THG

Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:31 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's funnier than either of your Jimmy's.

My Jimmy's - huh? Who are my Jimmy's? Fallon? Kimmel maybe? Just guessing - don't watch them, from the little I've seen don't much care for either one's show or their "humor." You have a very simple way of looking at things. Maybe you meant "'jammies?"

They all spend the day in their jammies where Jack lives.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:03 AM (P)

Yup. If we so choose...

How's that two day weekend treating you, bud? Awwww.... halfway over already?

Man... sucks to be you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Monday, February 11, 2019 11:34 PM (P)

Robert Mueller's lead prosecutor drops hint suggesting Russian collusion is still very much on the menu
https://theweek.com/speedreads/823078/robert-muellers-lead-prosecutor-
drops-hint-suggesting-russian-collusion-still-much-menu

Tick tock.

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:17 AM (P)

TRUMP OFFICIALS 'DOING RUSSIA'S BIDDING' TO GET RICHER AGAINST U.S. NATIONAL INTERESTS, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-officials-doing-russia-bidding-get-rich
er-1327143

“What [Weissman] is proposing, even though it is heavily redacted … seems a kind of grand bargain involving not simply a sweetheart deal for Russia and Ukraine, but the lifting of sanctions, which Putin dearly wanted,” Litman explained. He pointed out that “the glue” holding the narrative together is the “personal financial interests of the actors.”

The legal expert said these would be for “Manafort to make money from [pro-Russian former Ukrainian President Viktor] Yanukovych, Flynn to do something with the sanctions, and Trump to build his big crown jewel of the Trump Tower.”

“It really seems to be getting toward quite a grand scheme,” Litman concluded, “where officials are feathering their nests at the expense of U.S. national interests, and doing Russia’s bidding.”

Manafort has already been convicted of financial crimes in relation to Mueller’s ongoing probe. He also shared confidential polling data from the 2016 campaign with Konstantin Kilimnik, whom Mueller’s team has linked to Russian intelligence. He is now accused of lying to investigators about sharing that information. Five other top Trump associates have been indicted, convicted or pleaded guilty to charges connected to the ongoing investigation.

Manafort’s communications with Kilimnik began in early August 2016 and continued up through Trump’s inauguration in January 2017. Weismann suggested, according to The Times, that Kilimnik and Manafort were pushing for a policy that would remove sanctions targeting Russia in exchange for a peace deal in Ukraine, which involved splitting the country and allowing ousted Kremlin-backed Yanukovych to lead a breakaway region of the Eastern European nation. Both aspects of the policy would be in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favor and greatly serve Russian interests.

JO753

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 3:33 PM (P)

I giv it 50-50 that Trump will try to do another shutdown. This iz based on the idea that he wants to get impeached bekuz he hates being Prez.

He thinks he coud tell hiz boss that he had no choise and get Pence to pardon him.

It woud also depend on him beleeving he coud convins Putin he can still be a big help, so dont spill the kompromat beanz.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

SECOND

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:44 PM (P)

We now go to Sarah Huckabee Sanders for the same reaction to every news story.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:17 PM (P)

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:12 PM (P)

"Same spin, different day".

Is this another compilation of Rachel Maddow Russia moments?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:22 PM (P)

More Americans have confidence in Mueller than Trump

56 percent of respondents were more inclined to accept Mueller's version of the facts, as opposed to 33 percent who put more trust in Trump's accounts. Respondents were randomly selected and identified as 32 percent Democrat, 39 percent independent and 26 percent Republican

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-more-americans-have-confi
dence-in-mueller-than-trump/ar-BBTugIz?li=BBnb7Kz

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 13, 2019 6:36 PM (P)

Why not 33% for each? Or better yet, why not 50/50 with the two parties that matter at the end of the day. They don't even try to hide the fact that they intentionally skew the poll.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Wednesday, February 13, 2019 7:18 PM (P)

Quote:

We now go to ~~Sarah Huckabee Sanders~~ Rachel Maddow for the same reaction to every news story.

Ruusia!Russia!Russia!

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62843

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Thursday, February 14, 2019 7:41 PM (P)

Trump is a nut:

The president began to talk about how upset he was that Comey had flown home on his government plane from Los Angeles — Comey had been giving a speech there when he learned he was fired. The president wanted to know how that had happened.

I told him that bureau lawyers had assured me there was no legal issue with Comey coming home on the plane. I decided that he should do so. The existing threat assessment indicated he was still at risk, so he needed a protection detail. Since the members of the protection detail would all be coming home, it made sense to bring everybody back on the same plane they had used to fly out there. It was coming back anyway. The president flew off the handle: That’s not right! I don’t approve of that! That’s wrong! He reiterated his point five or seven times.

I said, I’m sorry that you disagree, sir. But it was my decision, and that’s how I decided. The president said, I want you to look into that! I thought to myself: What am I going to look into? I just told you I made that decision.

The ranting against Comey spiraled. I waited until he had talked himself out.

Toward the end of the conversation, the president brought up the subject of my wife. Jill had run unsuccessfully for the Virginia state Senate back in 2015, and the president had said false and malicious things about her during his campaign in order to tarnish the FBI. He said, How is your wife? I said, She’s fine. He said, When she lost her election, that must have been very tough to lose. How did she handle losing? Is it tough to lose?

I replied, I guess it’s tough to lose anything. But she’s rededicated herself to her career and her job and taking care of kids in the emergency room. That’s what she does.

He replied in a tone that sounded like a sneer. He said, “Yeah, that must’ve been really tough. To lose. To be a loser.”

I wrote a memo about this conversation that very day. I wrote memos about my interactions with President Trump for the same reason that Comey did: to have a contemporaneous record of conversations with a person who cannot be trusted.

More at www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/andrew-mccabe-fbi-book-ex
cerpt-the-threat/582748/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 14, 2019 9:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump is a nut:

Maybe... But he's a nut that was just reported to have not been found guilty of any Russian collusion.

Whoopsie!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:15 PM (P)

The Senate did not clear Trump of collusion.
tick tock____T

‘Prosecutors Almost Never Have Direct Evidence Of Criminal Conspiracies’

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, February 15, 2019 6:50 AM (P)

So that's the new narrative here, huh?

We weren't expecting to actually find any proof!

lol

Priceless.

Guess Maddow's job is safe and she'll be talking about her conspiracy theories until at least 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Friday, February 15, 2019 7:48 AM (P)

Question, does jack understand anything? Answer, nope.

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, February 15, 2019 1:52 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Question, does jack understand anything? Answer, nope.

Nope - to paraphrase Twitter: "Almost every major player of the Trump Campaign has been indicted, plead guilty, and is going to, or in jail. This has been the most successful witch hunt since the Wizard of Oz."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, February 15, 2019 5:49 PM (P)

All I know is that he said that the swamp would be drained. Looks like a lot of 'em are being flushed out. I know people who've had a hardon for Roger Stone for decades.

Still... No Russia collusion though.

Remember we do have a boatload of posts here from the last two years we can refer to when you guys find yourself completely changing your tune about all of this a few months from now when the dust settles as a reminder of how you used to think before the media slowly changed focus.

Ask me how I know.

Better yet, I'll just tell you. I saw it all happen during the GWB administration already. Some of us have better memory than others though.

lol.... Christ.

Some of us here actually sung John McCain's praises and have said they long for the days of GWB. Too funny.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, February 16, 2019 6:39 PM (P)

The special counsel did not recommend a specific sentence for Manafort, but as a ballpark, he said he agreed with the probation department’s proposed guidelines for a sentence of at least 19 and a half years.

“Manafort acted for more than a decade as if he were above the law, and deprived the federal government and various financial institutions of millions of dollars,” Mueller wrote. “The sentence here should reflect the seriousness of these crimes, and serve to both deter Manafort and others from engaging in such conduct.”

Manafort was convicted of financial crimes after a trial in Virginia, and then struck a plea deal to avert a second trial in Washington, DC. So he will be sentenced by two different judges — T.S. Ellis III in Virginia, and Amy Berman Jackson in the District of Columbia.

This first sentencing memo was filed in Virginia, and focuses on Manafort’s financial crimes: filing false income tax returns, not declaring foreign assets, and bank fraud.

All of the charges against Manafort have so far related to his past work for the former government of Ukraine, his finances, or attempting to interfere with the investigation. He has not been charged with any criminal conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 elections.

But Mueller clearly believes Manafort has still been hiding a great deal. The special counsel accused him of lying about his sharing of Trump campaign poll data with a Russian associate . . .

It’s been widely speculated that Manafort is hoping for a pardon from President Trump, and Mueller’s team even said in court that this could be a potential motivation for his false statements. Trump has conspicuously declined to rule out such a move. (During his final month in office, if Trump does pardon Manafort for tax cheating, that is all the evidence needed that Trump did it to protect Trump. Why else would he pardon a tax cheat? Sarah Huckabee Sanders will give some bullshit explanation.)

More at www.vox.com/2019/2/15/18226407/mueller-manafort-sentencing-memo

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Saturday, February 16, 2019 6:41 PM (P)

It gets real interesting 5 minutes in.

tick tock ___T

THG

Saturday, February 16, 2019 6:57 PM (P)

Get a load of this shit. It's all based on known facts, zero speculation. Can you say tick tock. I can, I can say tick tock

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THG

Saturday, February 16, 2019 7:06 PM (P)

Thing is, we've known all that's being reported concerning the Mueller Russia investigation for a year and a half now. Some here still play stupid as the proof continues to be brought forth. Well, that said, we know jack really is. Stupid I mean.

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Prosecutors say they have Roger Stone's WikiLeaks communications

SECOND

Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:42 PM (P)

Trump has no understanding of how to set a policy agenda or get anything done. Consequently, without Paul Ryan around to drive a legislative agenda that he can rubber-stamp, he’s flailing. First, shutting down the government and throwing millions of people’s lives into chaos. Now, reopening the government having obtained nothing he couldn’t have had in December while adopting a Hail Mary “emergency” scheme that is only going to make things worse. It’s a much better outcome than a new shutdown, but it should all make us worry about the president’s shaky ability to handle a real crisis.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, February 18, 2019 3:19 AM (P)

Mueller questions Cambridge Analytica director Brittany Kaiser

A director of the controversial data company Cambridge Analytica, who appeared with Arron Banks at the launch of the Leave.EU campaign, has been subpoenaed by the US investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-questions-cambridge-an
alytica-director-brittany-kaiser/ar-BBTIquX?ocid=spartanntp

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THG

Monday, February 18, 2019 4:10 AM (P)

‘Evidence in plain sight’ of Trump collusion with Russia, Schiff says

Rep. Adam Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, said Sunday that there is ample evidence Donald Trump’s presidential campaign colluded with Russians.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/evidence-in-plain-sight-of-tru
mp-collusion-with-russia-schiff-says/ar-BBTHT0B?ocid=spartanntp

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SECOND

Monday, February 18, 2019 5:03 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
‘Evidence in plain sight’ of Trump collusion with Russia, Schiff says

Climategate was about trying to distract the public and the policymakers with a fake scandal going into the Copenhagen Summit, also known as the United Nations Climate Change Conference, in 2009, which was the first opportunity for meaningful progress on international climate policy in years. (And we all know Trump's fake climate policy, don't we?)

A compelling case can be made that Russia’s involvement and Saudi Arabia’s potential involvement in the last US election was about a half-trillion-dollar oil deal between Russia and ExxonMobil that had been blocked because of the sanctions against Russia.

What’s the first thing that happened under the now-infamous Paul Manafort? They changed the Republican platform to try to get rid of those sanctions. Then Trump appointed Rex Tillerson, the former head of ExxonMobil, as Secretary of State. Is that a coincidence?

It was the same players and the same motive and the same disingenuity.

More at https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/the-most-villainous-act-in-the-hist
ory-of-human-civilisation-tyler-prize-winner-michael-e-mann-speaks-out

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, February 18, 2019 9:31 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know is that he said that the swamp would be drained. Looks like a lot of 'em are being flushed out. I know people who've had a hardon for Roger Stone for decades.

Still... No Russia collusion though.

Remember we do have a boatload of posts here from the last two years we can refer to when you guys find yourself completely changing your tune about all of this a few months from now when the dust settles as a reminder of how you used to think before the media slowly changed focus.

Ask me how I know.

Better yet, I'll just tell you. I saw it all happen during the GWB administration already. Some of us have better memory than others though.

lol.... Christ.

Some of us here actually sung John McCain's praises and have said they long for the days of GWB. Too funny.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And Still No Evidence.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, February 18, 2019 9:33 AM (P)

Only 2,266 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock. As of Sunday.

How exciting. 002080

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 18, 2019 6:48 PM (P)

Awwwww damn....

I forgot to wish this thread happy birthday.

Two years old now! I guess we're going to have to start thinking about potty training it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, February 18, 2019 9:32 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

And Still No Evidence.

Shoo you stupid troll. This is a list of whom the bell has tolled for so far. As for the rest...

tick tock

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Politics

The Mueller indictments so far: Lies, trolls and hacks

At least 34 people and three companies have been charged so far as a result of the special counsel’s investigation into 2016 election tampering.
By Jesus Rodriguez and Beatrice Jin | 12/07/18 10:15 AM EDT | UPDATED 1/25/19 12:00 PM EDT

Since former FBI chief Robert Mueller was appointed to probe potential ties between the Trump campaign and Russians during the 2016 campaign, the special counsel has held Americans spellbound. His investigation has exposed illegal schemes across international borders and produced more than 100 criminal charges. Inside the White House, the probe has, at times, consumed President Donald Trump and his inner circle. Here are all the people Mueller has charged so far.

Team Trump
George Papadopoulos

The first indictment, under seal.
Nearly five months after the special counsel officially began his work, Mueller filed his first charge, accusing the foreign policy advisor to Trump's campaign of lying to the FBI. According to Mueller, Papadopolous told an Australian diplomat in 2016 that Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton months before the Democratic candidate's internal campaign emails started leaking online.

As part of his plea deal with Mueller, Papadopoulos admitted that he discussed his Russia contacts with top campaign officials, including a possible meeting between candidate Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The White House sought to distance itself from Papadopoulos before he was eventually sentenced to 14 days in prison. Papadopoulos's indictment and plea deal was kept under seal until Oct. 30, 2017. Read the full indictment here.
Oct. 05, 2017

Team Trump
Paul Manafort
Team Trump
Rick Gates
Mueller's first bombshell.
With the Manafort indictment, Mueller ensnared one of the Trump campaign’s top aides and exposed a web of allegedly illicit business dealings between the former campaign chairman and pro-Russian Ukrainian officials that stretched back years. Mueller also indicted Rick Gates, Manafort’s longtime business partner. Manafort was eventually convicted on eight counts of tax and bank fraud, and later pleaded guilty to committing a conspiracy against the United States and a conspiracy to obstruct justice.

As part of his plea deal, Manafort agreed to cooperate with Mueller. But the special counsel eventually ripped up the agreement, accusing Manafort of lying repeatedly to investigators and requesting that the court move quickly to sentence the longtime GOP lobbyist. Read the full indictment here.
Oct. 30, 2017

Team Trump
Michael Flynn
Mueller searches for the Trump-Kremlin connection.
Flynn's guilty plea signaled that the special counsel was looking into communications at the highest levels of the Trump transition team and the Kremlin.
Flynn, who served a brief 24 days as Trump's national security adviser, admitted that he lied to federal investigators about conversations he had with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the transition about sanctions President Obama had just imposed on Russia for its interference in the 2016 elections and entered a plea deal with Mueller. After Flynn's guilty plea, the retired military officer met 19 times with investigators, offering "substantial assistance," according to a Mueller court filing. The special counsel recommended little to no jail time for Flynn. Read the full indictment here.
Dec. 01, 2017
Dec. 02, 2017 - Feb. 11, 2018
Mueller interviews Trump world.
During this period, Mueller's team interviewed several key figures in Trump's orbit, including then-White House co

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, February 19, 2019 6:21 AM (P)

Trump Keeps Tweeting About the ‘Illegal’ Mueller Probe, Which Can Mean Only One Thing
https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/trump-keeps-tweeting-about-the-illegal
-mueller-probe-which-can-mean-only-one-thing/

He's freaking out.

Trump has already acknowledged that a pardon is on the table and said that he believes Manafort has been treated unfairly. Manafort’s life could be seen as being in the president’s hands. Mueller is moving along quickly in the Manafort case and is ready for sentencing as soon as possible. Judge T.S. Ellis III will now have an opportunity to say what he thinks about the plea breach determination (plus prosecutor sentencing recommendations), so Manafort could be in for serious prison time. Regardless of what happens in terms of sentence length, Trump will be put in the position of having to decide what to do about Manafort. Reward loyalty despite political hazard or let him rot?

As the investigation into Manafort’s ties to a Russian operative deepen, the investigation into Roger Stone’s ties to the 2016 DNC hack is being discussed more openly. In what seemed like an innocuous Friday on filing, Mueller got a little closer to alleging something along the lines of a conspiracy.

For the first time, Mueller said in court documents that the case against Stone was related to United States v. Netyksho, the case Mueller brought against Russian military officers who allegedly posed as the “fictitious persona” Guccifer 2.0., hacked the DNC in 2016, and forwarded materials to WikiLeaks to influence the U.S. election.

Remarkably, Mueller said that the case against Stone arose from evidence prosecutors examined in the DNC hack case.

Mueller also said that the case is “properly related to Netyksho for the additional reason that the cases ‘arise[] from . . . activities which are a part of the same alleged criminal event or transaction,'” raising further questions about what Stone knew and what then-candidate Trump may have known. This would explain why the content of Stone’s late-night phone calls with Trump would be of interest to the special counsel.

In Stone, you have a person close to Trump for decades pushed closer to a conspiracy; In Manafort, you have a person who’s known Stone for decades under scrutiny for lying about communications with Russians in his final days with Trump’s campaign. In Trump, you have a person deeply aware of both situations.

It looks like Trump is bracing for a no good, very bad week, and it’s more likely he’s right than wrong about that.

THG

Tuesday, February 19, 2019 11:50 PM (P)

Dems launch investigation into Trump administration's dealings with Saudi Arabia

“Based on this snapshot of events, the committee is now launching an investigation to determine whether the actions being pursued by the Trump administration are in the national security interests of the United States or, rather, serve those who stand to gain financially as a result of this potential change in U.S. foreign policy,” the report said.

To continue the investigation, House Oversight and Reform Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) sent letters to several people and organizations involved with promoting the plan, including the White House, the CIA, the Flynn Intel Group, IP3 and the departments of Commerce, Defense, Energy, State and Treasury.
The version of the letter sent to the White House, which was released by the committee, asks for documents by March 5 related to the nuclear power plan from Trump's inauguration to the present.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/430598-dems-launch-investigation-in
to-trump-administrations-dealings-with-saudi

I'm sure our local trolls with be upset with Trump over this. Remember the stink they put up about the disproven claims about Hillary doing something like this.

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THG

Tuesday, February 19, 2019 11:53 PM (P)

Trump asked his acting AG to appoint a loyalist to oversee major New York investigations

n explosive new report from the New York Times reveals that President Donald Trump asked former acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker if he could appoint a loyalist to oversee investigations being conducted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York.

According to the Times’ report, Trump called Whitaker and asked him if he could put Trump ally Geoffrey S. Berman in charge of the multiple SDNY probes that have been swirling around former “fixer” Michael Cohen and potential corruption at the president’s inaugural committee.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/revealed-trump-asked-acting-ag-appoin
t-loyalist-oversee-major-new-york-investigations/

Can you say tick tock?

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THG

Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:03 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

Flynn-backed plan to transfer nuclear tech to Saudis may have broken laws, say whistleblowers

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/flynn-backed-plan-transfer-n
uclear-tech-saudis-may-have-broken-n973021

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:24 AM (P)

OMG!!! A plan to build nuclear power plants in the Mideast!!!

The poor sods, they think that "nuclear" is going to be the salvation to their economies, and since the USA won't build them, they're buying them from Russia.

I frankly do not understand the urge for nuclear power. Germany moved to decommission their nuclear power plants after Fukushima and to reduce coal as a source of energy ... a policy which they've been very consistent with, which is why they're shifting to Russian nat gas with Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 ... but if these middle east oil-jockeys believe that "nuclear" is the answer to their prayers, Japan has quite a few used reactors to sell them!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

THG

Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:55 AM (P)

Sig conveniently misses the point again. No surprise there.

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REAVERFAN

Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:10 AM (P)

Trump Has Publicly Attacked
the Russia Investigation
More Than 1,100 Times
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/02/19/us/politics/trump-attac
ks-obstruction-investigation.html

That's what an innocent man does, you know.

THG

Wednesday, February 20, 2019 11:04 PM (P)

Fox News Legal Analyst Says Trump Implicated In 2 Specific Crimes In New Report

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/andrew-napolitano-donald-trump-criminal
-intent_n_5c6cd373e4b0f40774c9fa33

tick tock

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REAVERFAN

Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:57 AM (P)

This is going a lot quicker than Nixon's impeachment.

Mueller's got him by the balls. That's why he's crying so much.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:57 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Fox News Legal Analyst Says Trump Implicated In 2 Specific Crimes In New Report

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/andrew-napolitano-donald-trump-criminal
-intent_n_5c6cd373e4b0f40774c9fa33

I thought a comment from a legal analyst was instructive: "attempting to obstruct justice is also illegal - they don't have to succeed. It's that way with most crimes, like murder."

REAVERFAN

Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:59 AM (P)

True. Attempting to rob a bank will still land you in jail.

JO753

Thursday, February 21, 2019 2:46 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
True. Attempting to rob a bank will still land you in jail.

So taking the manhole cover off in frunt uv the bank to 'aksidentaly' trip and drop the money into the sewer in case the fuzz iz waiting for you wont work?

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

THG

Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:45 AM (P)

Here we go folks
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SECOND

Thursday, February 21, 2019 3:47 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Fox News Legal Analyst Says Trump Implicated In 2 Specific Crimes In New Report

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/andrew-napolitano-donald-trump-criminal
-intent_n_5c6cd373e4b0f40774c9fa33

I thought a comment from a legal analyst was instructive: "attempting to obstruct justice is also illegal - they don't have to succeed. It's that way with most crimes, like murder."

The Mueller report has been cast as the panacea for what ails the country. It almost certainly won't be.

Recent polling conducted by CNN suggests that Trump's negative campaign against Mueller has had some effect: 44% approved of how Mueller had handled the investigation while 41% disapproved in the February poll. That's down from a 50% approve/28% disapprove number for Mueller back in September 2018.

What numbers like those make me think is that no matter what is in the Mueller report -- literally, NO MATTER WHAT -- it won't change the minds of most people following the story. For people who already hate Trump, they will see the Mueller report as confirmation that the President was compromised by the Russians. For Trump's backers, they will dismiss the whole thing -- aping their idol -- as a "witch hunt" and a "hoax." They likely won't even engage with what's in Mueller's report, and Trump will egg them on to ignore it -- so much "fake news" and all that.

Which will leave us, roughly, right where we are now. Which is bitterly divided without the ability to even agree on a set of facts and truths.

More at www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/robert-mueller-russia-investigation-fi
ndings/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:04 PM (P)

Who do you know that thinks Trump is their "idol"?

I don't know a single person who does.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Thursday, February 21, 2019 6:32 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who do you know that thinks Trump is their "idol"?

I don't know a single person who does.

You don't live in Texas, do you? I know many people, too many who said Trump's government shutdown was brilliant. And when he ended the shutdown, that was strategically brilliant, too.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

REAVERFAN

Thursday, February 21, 2019 7:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who do you know that thinks Trump is their "idol"?

I don't know a single person who does.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Thursday, February 21, 2019 8:39 PM (P)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 21, 2019 8:44 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who do you know that thinks Trump is their "idol"?

I don't know a single person who does.
You don't live in Texas, do you? I know many people, too many who said Trump's government shutdown was brilliant. And when he ended the shutdown, that was strategically brilliant, too.

You can respect a man's decision and disagree with other people's opinions about him without delving into idolatry.

To be honest with you, I'd say that you give Trump at least 10 times more of your thought processes on any given day than I ever would.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Friday, February 22, 2019 11:48 PM (P)

New York Has Prepared Paul Manafort Charges If Trump Pardons Him

New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. is ready to file an array of tax and other charges against Manafort, according to two people familiar with the matter, something seen as an insurance policy should the president exercise his power to free the former aide. Skirting laws that protect defendants from being charged twice for the same offense has been one of Vance’s challenges.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-york-has-prepared-paul-man
afort-charges-if-trump-pardons-him/ar-BBTWSRT?li=BBnb4R7

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REAVERFAN

Saturday, February 23, 2019 2:37 AM (P)

Manafort will certainly die in prison. Good.

We keep hearing "it's over" and "Mueller's got nothing."

We've been hearing it for a long time.

December 6th 2017 - Mueller’s probe doesn't end with a bang, but with a whimper

January 4th 2018 - Ex-federal prosecutor says sentencings signal Mueller probe likely approaching end

January 25th 2018 - Mueller Almost Done With Obstruction Part of Trump Probe, Sources Say

April 4th 2018 - Mueller May Be Baiting Trump, Eyeing Early-Summer Release on Obstruction

May 1st 2018 - Leaks in the Mueller investigation mean the endgame must be near

June 16th 2018 - ‘Prepared for war’: As Mueller moves to finalize obstruction report, Trump’s allies ready for political battle

August 12th 2018 - Giuliani: Mueller told us he'd wrap up Trump obstruction probe by Sept. 1

September 6th 2018 - The Mueller and Trump dance may finally be coming to an end

October 27th 2018 - Mueller Ready to Deliver Key Findings in His Trump Probe, Sources Say

January 9th 2019 - Exclusive: NBC News source says Mueller probe wrapping by March

January 28th 2019 - Special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation is close to being completed, acting AG Matthew Whitaker says

February 5th 2019 - Chuck Grassley says he expects Mueller report 'within a month'

February 20th 2019 - Justice Department preparing for Mueller report as early as next week

"Reporters should be honest about the fact that *much* of the time they report the Mueller report is about to be turned in that it's coming from White House or Trump orbit sources." -Rick Wilson

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 23, 2019 3:14 AM (P)

"Reporters should be honest" PERIOD.

Fixed it for you, Mr. Wilson

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:01 AM (P)

Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen gave Manhattan federal prosecutors new information about the president’s family business and about a donor to his inaugural committee, the New York Times reports.

Cohen reportedly told prosecutors from the Southern District of New York about potential “irregularities” involving the Trump Organization’s insurance claims, as well as about inaugural committee donor Imaad Zuberi.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/nyt-cohen-dished-on-trump-org-
and-the-inaugural-to-manhattan-feds

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REAVERFAN

Saturday, February 23, 2019 9:25 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Imaad Zuberi.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/nyt-cohen-dished-on-trump-org-
and-the-inaugural-to-manhattan-feds

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Sounds like a goddam Mooslim ta me!!!!!!1!!!

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-imaad-zuberi-trump-inauguration
-subpoena-20190205-story.html

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:30 AM (P)

Sure does.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:53 PM (P)

Even if Mueller’s probe concludes soon, things are far from over

“He seems laser focused on his assignment, which is to get to the bottom of Russian involvement in the 2016 election,” said Meyer, now a partner at Sheppard Mullin. If Mueller’s learned everything there is to learn within his mandate, he may feel it’s time to wrap up.

He could file charges or unseal a large number of indictments at the close of the investigation, then let the Department of Justice prosecute them.

“Their powers and scope go well beyond Mr. Mueller’s circumscribed mandate,” Katyal wrote. “So whenever Mr. Mueller turns in his report, do not assume that things are over.”

By Deanna Paul
February 23 at 7:00 AM

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THG

Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:59 PM (P)

Trump faces legal issues for the rest of his presidency, no matter what Mueller finds

Prosecutors in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Washington and Virginia are all pulling at threads that the FBI started unraveling two years ago. Legal problems, and possibly further indictments of Trump’s friends and aides, are likely to shadow the president for the rest of his White House tenure.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-russia-trump-investigations
-20190222-story.html

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:00 PM (P)

It's kind of like that war in the Middle East that we're going to be involved with until the end of time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 PM (P)

T

Source tells WSJ Michael Cohen will say things that will give you chills

THG

Monday, February 25, 2019 4:36 AM (P)

tick tock
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Obstruction Of Justice A 'Crucial Crime'

1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:12 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:13 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
THGRRI posts yet another Commie Crazy editorial hit piece on Trump trying to link him with "Ukraine Lawmaker Who Aided Trump Associates Faces Treason "...

I point out that the story, half-way down, says that he has not been arrested or charged with anything and ask for him to get back to me when there is actual, yanno, news.....

Second comes in and says "how's my opinion for news"?

THGRRI likes that "news".

Yep. It must be Wednesday morning in the RWED.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Excuse me Jack but the story starts stating " Prosecutors in Ukraine are investigating whether a member of Parliament committed treason." Key word, investigating Jack.

I posted it because Trumps lawyer is being investigated for the same thing. He supposedly was the Ukrainian's contact here. Key word, supposedly Jack.

Key word as to why they are being investigated? Russia Jack

When you read articles Jack, try and understand what they are saying and why. As for whether or not this news pleased me you couldn't be more wrong. My president having these type contacts with Russia is very troubling to me. This has nothing to do with Trump except that he is my president.

And lets face it Jack, unless you like who is the president, you don't consider them your president.

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1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:16 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I’ll try and keep this civil because we just started conversing and it would be great to get along. You presume I should assign some sort of position of authority to you based on your time here. That isn’t going to happen. You can expect me to be respectful until or if I come to believe you don’t deserve respect. I say that because I have found many here don’t.

You have been gone for a while and are presuming these are the same people you knew in the past. I believe they aren’t. Someone just yesterday criticized SIG claiming she couldn’t believe the garbage she was now posting. I have been dealing with them for the past few years and have a pretty good idea of what they are about. If you don’t mind, I’ll deal with those who troll here in my own fashion.

You can continue to change what I said when quoting me. I can’t stop that. To me though it’s a sign of disrespect. Especially since we have trolls here that do that with most of what they claim to be factual. Also, it confuses what anyone who comes to the discussion late believes was said. So to me, those who do this have not thought it through or they've become frustrated. Again, it changes something written objectively to being false and subjective. At the very least it’s dishonest. Expect me to respond to that because I want readers who follow to know that is not what I said.

I see the best of the best here misspell constantly. I don’t point it out when others do it because for one, it’s petty. Secondly, I can make a valid point in return so I don’t need to deflect to change the point of interest. Unless you are going to use word and edit everything you post like a term paper, I suggest you don’t throw stones.

I am talking about people being upset with the way Bernie was treated. I agree with that sentiment and thought you claimed it was not talked about enough. I thought it was. I don’t know why we always seem confused on this. Care to elaborate further?

As for SIG. She has been trolling here on behalf of Russia either because she believes it, or just for the kick of trolling. Either way she is constantly putting America down and supporting all Putin’s talking points. Her opinions on everything else are all over the map and her posts have mostly been from bullshit sources.

Check out these two links to gain insight into just how anti-American and pro Russia she and 1kiki are.

Russia suspended from 2016 Olympics? http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60145

Russia Invades Ukraine http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58499

SIG and 1kiki have been trolling since I got here. Many here who you converse with regularly are trolls. Hate for the left is all they are about. They post the worst of the worst of the lies out there. As I have said here recently, it’s a last man standing mentality. That is a troll.

You talk about Trump. I will post a response to that later.

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Seriously, this:
Quote:
THGRRI BROWNCOAT SINCE: 2014

We welcome new fans. Yay, hooray, and come on in.

That said, don't come in and tell us we're doing it wrong.

I know, a lot of what is done here is kind of trollish. I don't call you thuggery, I don't know what those letters stand for. If it's a reference to a firefly phrase, neither i nor anyone else here has recognized it. I assumed it was something religious, but still don't get it and I read the bible twice through, cover to cover. (Jew here, we do read the new testament as well.) I know what Si Shen was, so I figured it was a Bleach reference rather than an actual name.

That said, there are a large number of time honored traditions here, and this one is called "fixed that for ya" and yes, you have seen it. It's been used half a dozed times in the last week alone. I suspect Frem started it, but now it's here, like a meme.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Bernie

Which is other one I tend to avoid, quoting the misspelli

1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:17 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

Did Trump sanction others on his campaign team speaking with the Russians, at a time when they were trying to interfere in our election? And if he did, why did he lie about it?

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1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:18 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

Did Trump sanction others on his campaign team speaking with the Russians, at a time when they were trying to interfere in our election? And if he did, why did he lie about it?

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1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:21 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Good compendium:
https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ti
es

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com]

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1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:22 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Roger Stone, Trump confidante, spoke privately with DNC hackers prior to election: Report

Roger Stone, President Trump’s former campaign adviser, communicated privately with an entity directly involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee ahead of the 2016 White House race, The Smoking Gun reported Wednesday.

Mr. Stone, a veteran political consultant, swapped private Twitter messages last year with “Guccifer 2.0,” the website reported Wednesday citing an unnamed source. If accurate, the allegation means Mr. Trump’s longtime confidante and one-time presidential campaign manager spoke in private with a persona intimately implicated in the operation that helped dash Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s chance at the White House, and would undeniably amplify existing concerns regarding Team Trump’s alleged ties to Russia.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/9/roger-stone-trump-confi
dante-spoke-privately-with-/

P.S.

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1KIKI

Monday, February 25, 2019 5:25 AM (P)

THUGGER

I just posted post after post of yours, from just over 2 pages - about Trump and RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!

Can you explain to me why your now stating it's not about Trump colluding with Russia?

THG

Monday, February 25, 2019 7:19 AM (P)

A confusing mess kiki. Not quite sure were I start off and you finish. Your intention I'm sure. I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

37 indictments and hundreds of charges filed. That's a witch hunt that's found a coven. Even when Mueller's report is filed the southern district of NY, the courts in DC and Virginia will continue dismantling Trump. I hear there are as many as 15 sealed indictments in Virginia alone. Wednesday should be fun. The house questions Cohen for three days.

Do me a favor and shoo troll.

THG

Monday, February 25, 2019 7:19 AM (P)

OH yeah, collusion is not a crime. Two years stupid and you still act as though that hasn't been explained to you a hundred times.

tick tac comrade

T

THG

Monday, February 25, 2019 7:52 AM (P)

T

Could pending indictments of Don Jr. and Jared Kushner hold up Mueller report

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 AM (P)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 25, 2019 8:15 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
THUGGER

I just posted post after post of yours, from just over 2 pages - about Trump and RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!

Can you explain to me why your now stating it's not about Trump colluding with Russia?

lol... I see I'm not the only one who noticed this.

"What did we expect to find? A contract between Trump and Putin signed in blood?"

No. I never heard anybody say that, specifically. What I have heard from some people for the last two years, however, is that Trump has committed Treason and he should be hanged or be put on the wrong end of the firing squad for it. I have heard that Mueller would be the one who made this happen.

The "plan" now, seems to be that nothing at all is going to happen to Trump, but we're just going to keep talking about Russia for the next six years. This is absolutely fabulous for Maddow and CNN's ratings.

Hell, it might even be more than six years if Democrats still can't find a message by 2024. Whoever beats them then will no doubt be a Putin puppet as well.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 25, 2019 8:19 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
T

That's cute... Look at T,

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 25, 2019 8:25 AM (P)

That's from one of my favorite scenes of It's Always Sunny.

Charlie Day is a criminally underrated genius.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, February 25, 2019 8:07 PM (P)

Shoo troll

T

REAVERFAN

Monday, February 25, 2019 9:28 PM (P)

The Trump-Russia Investigation and the Mafia State
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-trump-russia-investi
gation-and-the-mafia-state

What we are observing is not most accurately described as the subversion of American democracy by a hostile power. Instead, it is an attempt at state capture by an international crime syndicate.

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