Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"
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Swamp Scandal: Trump Sees Huge Gain From Govt Spending At Hotels
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Escalation: Democrats Take Formal Steps On Impeachment Probe
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Do it already.
Time is running out.
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Escalation: Democrats Take Formal Steps On Impeachment Probe
I like Raskin's comment: "There are so many things to investigate it's hard to keep up."
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
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Escalation: Democrats Take Formal Steps On Impeachment Probe
I like Raskin's comment: "There are so many things to investigate it's hard to keep up."
Pick one.
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Only 2,058 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.
How exciting. 002780
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
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Escalation: Democrats Take Formal Steps On Impeachment Probe
I like Raskin's comment: "There are so many things to investigate it's hard to keep up."
Here's one Trump tried to but can't stop.
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U.S. appeals court says Trump cannot dodge foreign corruption lawsuit
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-appeals-court-says-trump-ca
nnot-dodge-foreign-corruption-lawsuit/ar-AAHfJAx?ocid=spartandhp
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
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Escalation: Democrats Take Formal Steps On Impeachment Probe
I like Raskin's comment: "There are so many things to investigate it's hard to keep up."
Here's one Trump tried to but can't stop.
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U.S. appeals court says Trump cannot dodge foreign corruption lawsuit
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-appeals-court-says-trump-ca
nnot-dodge-foreign-corruption-lawsuit/ar-AAHfJAx?ocid=spartandhp
Great.
Maybe they'll actually do it this time instead of talking about it for another 2 years.
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‘Seismic change’: Democratic hold-outs rush toward impeachment
Democratic leaders have also called a full caucus meeting for Tuesday afternoon, where the discussion is expected to center on their response to the episode, and which comes after a dozen new lawmakers embraced an impeachment inquiry.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/seismic-change-democratic-hold
-outs-rush-toward-impeachment/ar-AAHJgwd?ocid=spartandhp
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GOOD!
FUCKING DO IT ALREADY!
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GOOD! FUCKING DO IT ALREADY!
Nancy just answered your call. The official impeachment process begins. Here's a video confirming it. You can share your joy with jsf.
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced on Tuesday that the House would begin a formal impeachment inquiry of President Trump, saying that he had betrayed his oath of office and the nation’s security in seeking to enlist a foreign power for his own political...
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No. That's not at all what that video says. Not even the title says that.
They're starting the formal impeachment inquiry... the exact same thing they said they were starting weeks ago, which is to say, they are going to have an investigation into Trump because they weren't happy with Mueller's investigation.
This is old news.
This is NOT impeachment.
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... this is wiki which used to be reliable but is now often censored:
Procedure
At the federal level, the impeachment process is a three-step procedure.
First, the Congress investigates. This investigation typically begins in the House Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere. For example, the Nixon impeachment inquiry began in the Senate Judiciary Committee. The facts that led to impeachment of Bill Clinton were first discovered in the course of an investigation by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr.
Second, the House of Representatives must pass, by a simple majority of those present and voting, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations. Upon passage, the defendant has been "impeached".
Third, the Senate tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a president, the Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. For the impeachment of any other official, the Constitution is silent on who shall preside, suggesting that this role falls to the Senate's usual presiding officer, the President of the Senate who is also the Vice President of the United States. Conviction in the Senate requires a two-thirds vote. The result of conviction is removal from office.
Rules
A number of rules have been adopted by the House and Senate, and are honored by tradition.
Jefferson's Manual, which is integral to the Rules of the House of Representatives,[16] states that impeachment is set in motion by charges made on the floor, charges proferred by a memorial, a member's resolution referred to a committee, a message from the president, or from facts developed and reported by an investigating committee of the House. It further states that a proposition to impeach is a question of high privilege in the House and at once supersedes business otherwise in order under the rules governing the order of business.
The House Practice: A Guide to the Rules, Precedents and Procedures of the House[17] is a reference source for information on the rules and selected precedents governing the House procedure, prepared by the House Parliamentarian. The manual has a chapter on the House's rules, procedures, and precedent for impeachment.
In 1974, as part of the preliminary investigation in the Nixon impeachment inquiry, the staff of the Impeachment Inquiry of the House Judiciary Committee prepared a report, Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment.[6] The primary focus of the Report is the definition of the term "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" and the relationship to criminality, which the Report traces through history from English roots, through the debates at the 1787 Constitutional Convention, and the history of the impeachments before 1974.
The 1974 report has been expanded and revised on several occasions by the Congressional Research Service, and the current version Impeachment and Removal dates from October 2015.[1] While this document is only staff recommendation, as a practical matter, today it is probably the single most influential definition of "high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
The Senate has formal Rules and Procedures of Practice in the Senate When Sitting on Impeachment Trials.[18]
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All news outlets are reporting about Trumps impeachment today. It's on. There now has to be a decission about guilt or innocents made.
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Quote:Before the trial starts, we already know how the Senators will vote, don't we? Trump will say he had no intention of committing a wrongful act, and that will be enough cover to allow all the GOP Senators to vote Not Guilty. Trump has got no idea what the charges will be, but he has already got his statement written.
Originally posted by THG:
All news outlets are reporting about Trumps impeachment today. It's on. There now has to be a decission about guilt or innocents made.
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The one thing Trump won't be able to dodge with a statement of "I had no intention to violate the law" will be the bill for his overdue taxes. Whatever that number is, he can't make it go away, but he will try to delay Congress's forensic accountants from discovering what the number is.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Before the trial starts, we already know how the Senators will vote, don't we? Trump will say he had no intention of committing a wrongful act, and that will be enough cover to allow all the GOP Senators to vote Not Guilty. Trump has got no idea what the charges will be, but he has already got his statement written.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
All news outlets are reporting about Trumps impeachment today. It's on. There now has to be a decission about guilt or innocents made.
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The one thing Trump won't be able to dodge with a statement of "I had no intention to violate the law" will be the bill for his overdue taxes. Whatever that number is, he can't make it go away, but he will try to delay Congress's forensic accountants from discovering what the number is.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Fist, we only need so many. Second, no pun intended, we don't know until the evidence is presented. Nothing is certain two.
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:Before the trial starts, we already know how the Senators will vote, don't we? Trump will say he had no intention of committing a wrongful act, and that will be enough cover to allow all the GOP Senators to vote Not Guilty. Trump has got no idea what the charges will be, but he has already got his statement written.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
All news outlets are reporting about Trumps impeachment today. It's on. There now has to be a decission about guilt or innocents made.
tick tock tick tock
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The one thing Trump won't be able to dodge with a statement of "I had no intention to violate the law" will be the bill for his overdue taxes. Whatever that number is, he can't make it go away, but he will try to delay Congress's forensic accountants from discovering what the number is.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Fist, we only need so many. Second, no pun intended, we don't know until the evidence is presented. Nothing is certain two.
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Speak of the devil, Wishy...
How many fists do you need, T?
And one thing is certain. The two/to/too you were looking for is too.
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Quote:The number is 67 Senators to convict Trump. There are only 45 Democratic Senators. You can look it up: www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm
Originally posted by THG:
First, we only need so many. Second, no pun intended, we don't know until the evidence is presented. Nothing is certain two.
Trump will NOT be convicted. The Democrats won't be able to get the 22 more Senators they need to convict. Bernie will vote with the Democrats, maybe also Angus King, the Independent from Maine, but who else? Nobody!
What will really kill Trump is his over-due tax bill. When the bill finally comes in a few years, he will have a stroke and die. This year, or maybe next year, I can look forward to the House of Representative's forensic accountants investigating Trump's tax returns and making Trump miserable and furious. And it should be an excellent lesson to other tax cheating 1 Percenters of America. As a bonus, the resultant increase in taxes collected from the newly compliant tax-cheaters will decrease the budget deficit.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I heard Bernie and Warren want to pass an 8% wealth tax that no rich person will end up paying a dime of ever.
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Originally posted by second:
The number is 67 Senators to convict Trump. There are only 45 Democratic Senators. You can look it up: www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm
What was the final vote tally in the senate for Nixon's impeachment?
Like T says, you don't know what will happen until you take the next step.
Already, the so-called "transcript" is blowing up in his face. It's more of a farce - even black comedy - it's so bad. "Who the f*ck told him this would be a good idea to release!?!" It's a summary, not a transcript like they want us to believe, and even with that it clearly puts Trump in the cross hairs from his own words. He talks about Biden and his son and Hillary's server being in the Ukraine, and a Ukrainian prosecutor being a "great guy" even though many US intel consider him a Putin stooge and have tried to get rid of him.
It's early, but it's looking more and more like he's played the same (lying sack of sh*t) gambit one too many times.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The number is 67 Senators to convict Trump. There are only 45 Democratic Senators. You can look it up: www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm
Originally posted by THG:
First, we only need so many. Second, no pun intended, we don't know until the evidence is presented. Nothing is certain two.
Trump will NOT be convicted. The Democrats won't be able to get the 22 more Senators they need to convict. Bernie will vote with the Democrats, maybe also Angus King, the Independent from Maine, but who else? Nobody!
What will really kill Trump is his over-due tax bill. When the bill finally comes in a few years, he will have a stroke and die. This year, or maybe next year, I can look forward to the House of Representative's forensic accountants investigating Trump's tax returns and making Trump miserable and furious. And it should be an excellent lesson to other tax cheating 1 Percenters of America. As a bonus, the resultant increase in taxes collected from the newly compliant tax-cheaters will decrease the budget deficit.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You're like a broken record. I don't care what the senate republicans do. It appears to me you are like a deer stuck in the headlights. Therefore you would do nothing. This has to happen. If the voters don't like what the republicans do they will take care of business. After that the courts will take over when Trump loses in 2020. This is how it has to go down.
Lets hope the dems get it right. If they do Trumps fucked.
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Quote:For Nixon there was no vote in the Senate. The deal with Nixon was that the leadership in the Senate told Nixon they were gonna beat him to death for what he had done, but the torture would be stretched over many months. "Did he want to go ahead with a trial by torture?" Nixon was asked. Nixon immediately resigned. The leadership in today's Senate is Mitch McConnell. Trump often acts like he is above the law because McConnell lets him. If McConnell decided to lead Senate Republicans in investigating and curbing Trump’s corruption, abuses of power, and obstruction of justice, Trump’s options would be to reform his behavior or be ejected from office.
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The number is 67 Senators to convict Trump. There are only 45 Democratic Senators. You can look it up: www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm
What was the final vote tally in the senate for Nixon's impeachment?
Like T says, you don't know what will happen until you take the next step.
Already, the so-called "transcript" is blowing up in his face. It's more of a farce - even black comedy - it's so bad. "Who the f*ck told him this would be a good idea to release!?!" It's a summary, not a transcript like they want us to believe, and even with that it clearly puts Trump in the cross hairs from his own words. He talks about Biden and his son and Hillary's server being in the Ukraine, and a Ukrainian prosecutor being a "great guy" even though many US intel consider him a Putin stooge and have tried to get rid of him.
It's early, but it's looking more and more like he's played the same (lying sack of sh*t) gambit one too many times.
Instead, on Tuesday, McConnell signaled that he intends to continue protecting Trump from accountability or sanction.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Meanwhile...
Trump's approval rating continues to rise.
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Quote:How many Presidents were removed by the Senate? Zero. How many assassinated? Four. That makes me think Trump has a better chance of being killed in office than being removed by the Senate.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile...
Trump's approval rating continues to rise.
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Then there was President Warren G. Harding, who was rumored to have been poisoned by his wife and/or his associates. He was such a huge dirt bag that there is no good reason to think he was not. His wife refused permission for an autopsy. It could happen to Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assas
sination_attempts_and_plots
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:How many Presidents were removed by the Senate? Zero. How many assassinated? Four. That makes me think Trump has a better chance of being killed in office than being removed by the Senate.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile...
Trump's approval rating continues to rise.
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So you've said. Quite a few times.
Ya fuckin' Looney Toon.
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Quote:This is why the modern day Federal Government is deadlocked while the Federal Government in the distant past was not. Nobody today believes there are any time limits on their own lives, unlike Presidents who went to war, such as Kennedy or earlier Presidents who knew in their guts that someday they will die from the misfortune of disease. Today, too many Americans think they have forever to finally make the best possible decision. And thus we live in an Age of Deadlock.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:How many Presidents were removed by the Senate? Zero. How many assassinated? Four. That makes me think Trump has a better chance of being killed in office than being removed by the Senate.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile...
Trump's approval rating continues to rise.
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So you've said. Quite a few times.
Ya fuckin' Looney Toon.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
George H W Bush almost died in WWII. He was aware of the shortness of life and the need to compromise to avoid deadlock, while his son, Bush Jr who almost did nothing in the Texas National Guard, could not compromise. That dumbass, much like Trump who completely did nothing, thinks life goes on and on and on.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:This is why the modern day Federal Government is deadlocked while the Federal Government in the distant past was not. Nobody today believes there are any time limits on their own lives, unlike Presidents who went to war, such as Kennedy or earlier Presidents who knew in their guts that someday they will die from the misfortune of disease. Today, too many Americans think they have forever to finally make the best possible decision. And thus we live in an Age of Deadlock.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:How many Presidents were removed by the Senate? Zero. How many assassinated? Four. That makes me think Trump has a better chance of being killed in office than being removed by the Senate.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile...
Trump's approval rating continues to rise.
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So you've said. Quite a few times.
Ya fuckin' Looney Toon.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Yanno what?
Talk to the Democrats who had corpse Ted Kennedy falling off of stages from his dementia, or are keeping Ginsberg on life support in hopes that they can get Trump out of office before she croaks. While you're at it, maybe mention to them that pitting somebody who's already regressing to the mental state of a child like Joe Biden in a debate against Trump is probably not a good idea either.
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Quote:Yanno what? On March 30, 1981, only 69 days into the new administration, Ronald Reagan was shot. Best thing that ever happened to him because it changed him from a goddamn fool of a Republican to somebody with enough wisdom to know his time is short. It is a lesson Trump has obviously not learned. You, neither.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Ronald_Reagan#Assassinatio
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Countdown Clock to Trumps (sic) impeachment " STARTS"
Ask not for whom the clock ticks, it ticks for thee.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Yanno what? On March 30, 1981, only 69 days into the new administration, Ronald Reagan was shot. Best thing that ever happened to him because it changed him from a goddamn fool of a Republican to somebody with enough wisdom to know his time is short. It is a lesson Trump has obviously not learned. You, neither.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Ronald_Reagan#Assassinatio
n_attempt
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
What's the count for calls for assassination from Second now guys and gals?
Have we reached 10 yet? A dozen?
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Quote:6ixStringJack, I can see WHY you are not doing well in this world: You are stupid. The following editorial was written assuming Americans are smart. They aren't, which means the predictions in the editorial will not come to pass:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What's the count for calls for assassination from Second now guys and gals?
Have we reached 10 yet? A dozen?
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Trump’s Death by Self-Regard (By the way, stupid 6ixStringJack, the editorial is NOT calling for Trump's death)
https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/trumps-death-by-self-regard/
The just-released transcript of Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president Zelensky is nothing short of staggering.
Trump’s self-regard, swagger, and extreme narcissism are all on display. You get the sense that he is so eager to strut his stuff and have the public see it, that it overwhelms any sense on his part that this particular strut could be the stuff of impeachment.
And of course, the transcript can’t be read in isolation. Just days before, as Trump now admits, he withheld $400 million in military aid to Ukraine. There would have been no reason to do this except as leverage.
So now we have a smoking gun, every bit as damaging and self-inflicted as the Nixon tapes.
And irony of ironies, we have Trump up against another president who began as a TV entertainer. Except that Zelensky, who once played a president on Ukrainian TV, seems to have navigated the transition to actual president a lot better than Trump.
There are also reports that Trump has withdrawn his efforts to prevent the whistle-blower from testifying to Congress because of pressure from Republican legislators. And this is the second game changer. As flat-out illegal behavior is documented, expect more Republicans to defect.
As one who has been advocating impeachment for months, I’m always amazed at the tendency of pundits to make straight-line extrapolations from the current state of public and elite opinion. But public opinion is dynamic.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has taken a lot of grief from progressives for waiting so long. As things turned out, she played it exactly right. She waited until she had a transgression that the public could easily grasp, until she had the overwhelming majority of the Democratic Caucus with her, and then she went all in. (Sorry, but the public will grasp nothing.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Whistle-Blower Is Said to Allege Concerns About White House Handling of Ukraine Call
WASHINGTON — The intelligence officer who filed a whistle-blower complaint about President Trump’s interactions with the leader of Ukraine raised alarms not only about what the two men said in a phone call, but also about how the White House handled records of the conversation, according to two people briefed on the complaint.
The whistle-blower, moreover, identified multiple White House officials as witnesses to potential presidential misconduct who could corroborate the complaint, the people said — adding that the inspector general for the intelligence community, Michael Atkinson, interviewed witnesses.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistle-blower-is-said-to-alle
ge-concerns-about-white-house-handling-of-ukraine-call/ar-AAHR1Cn?ocid=spartandhp
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I listen to three newscasts every day: NBC, ABC, and PBS. I usually listen to ABC on the same day, because it's the least credible, but it let's me know what I'm supposed to be hyperventilating about.
I listen to NBC about a week or more late, because it refreshes my memory about how the stories originated, in the light of subsequent 'news'. It let's me know how the story has drifted over time, because they assume we're not actually tracking the reporting and will nod our assent at whatever truthiness they blather at us in the moment.
And I listen to PBS much, much later, because they're very 'narrative' heavy. It gives me an idea of what I'm supposed to be thinking.
Oddly enough, I JUST listened to the initial NBC reports when the 'telephone conversation' story first broke - a week ago. At the time no one could confirm that it involved Trump, or knew the identity of the foreign person. Nevertheless, the claim of the whistleblower - AS REPORTED - was that THERE WERE "PROMISES MADE", and fact of those "PROMISES MADE" were the source of all the supposed national security concern.
That claim of "PROMISES MADE" has completely disappeared from the 'news'.
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ixStringJack, I can see WHY you are not doing well in this world: You are stupid. The following editorial was written assuming Americans are smart. They aren't, which means the predictions in the editorial will not come to pass:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What's the count for calls for assassination from Second now guys and gals?
Have we reached 10 yet? A dozen?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump’s Death by Self-Regard (By the way, stupid 6ixStringJack, the editorial is NOT calling for Trump's death)
https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/trumps-death-by-self-regard/
The just-released transcript of Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president Zelensky is nothing short of staggering.
Trump’s self-regard, swagger, and extreme narcissism are all on display. You get the sense that he is so eager to strut his stuff and have the public see it, that it overwhelms any sense on his part that this particular strut could be the stuff of impeachment.
And of course, the transcript can’t be read in isolation. Just days before, as Trump now admits, he withheld $400 million in military aid to Ukraine. There would have been no reason to do this except as leverage.
So now we have a smoking gun, every bit as damaging and self-inflicted as the Nixon tapes.
And irony of ironies, we have Trump up against another president who began as a TV entertainer. Except that Zelensky, who once played a president on Ukrainian TV, seems to have navigated the transition to actual president a lot better than Trump.
There are also reports that Trump has withdrawn his efforts to prevent the whistle-blower from testifying to Congress because of pressure from Republican legislators. And this is the second game changer. As flat-out illegal behavior is documented, expect more Republicans to defect.
As one who has been advocating impeachment for months, I’m always amazed at the tendency of pundits to make straight-line extrapolations from the current state of public and elite opinion. But public opinion is dynamic.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has taken a lot of grief from progressives for waiting so long. As things turned out, she played it exactly right. She waited until she had a transgression that the public could easily grasp, until she had the overwhelming majority of the Democratic Caucus with her, and then she went all in. (Sorry, but the public will grasp nothing.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Calls me stupid for pointing out that he's called for the assassination of the president a dozen times.
Backs this up by posting a dozen paragraphs unrelated to the issue.
Pretty sure you're on the spectrum too, buddy.
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Quote:6ixStringJack, you are as dumb as Trump, but twice as articulate. Too bad being able to talk well won't get you anywhere, except in a sales job or in politics, none of which have you taken up as way to earn your living. Remember, 6ix, neither being stupid nor having forgotten your education is a barrier to becoming a salesman in America! Just look how far Trump has gone, using only his mouth. Here is Trump's mouth running without his brain engaged:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Calls me stupid for pointing out that he's called for the assassination of the president a dozen times.
Donald Trump pressed Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to help legitimize conspiracy theories about his Democratic rivals during a private telephone conversation in July, and again at a public meeting at the United Nations on Wednesday.
White House notes on the July call, released before the two presidents met in New York, showed that Trump urged his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate false claims about the theft of emails from the Democratic National Committee’s servers in 2016 and about former Vice President Joe Biden’s role in getting Ukraine’s chief prosecutor fired the same year.
The summary of the call shows that when Zelensky said that his country wanted to buy Javelin antitank missiles from the United States — using millions of dollars in American military aid the White House was blocking at the time — Trump responded by saying, “I would like you to do us a favor though.” The American president then presented shards of a conspiracy theory he’s invoked before: that the DNC computers were not hacked by Russian intelligence agents, as Special Counsel Robert Mueller concluded, rather, Democrats had framed Russia for the crime, with the help of a Ukrainian-owned cybersecurity firm, CrowdStrike.
A publicly-traded company headquartered in California, CrowdStrike has nothing to do with Ukraine, except in conspiracyland, which pretends that CrowdStrike co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch is Ukrainian, and that he framed Russia for election interference both on the DNC’s orders and to punish Putin for invading Ukraine.
Trump's theory “is absurd for many reasons,” the New York Times cybersecurity reporter Nicole Perlroth observed on Twitter. “The server is not in Ukraine; it’s sitting in the DNC basement. Despite Trump’s repeated claims Democrats withheld the server from the FBI, CrowdStrike and the DNC actually gave all their forensic evidence to the FBI.”
More at https://theintercept.com/2019/09/26/donald-trump-wants-ukraines-presid
ent-probe-conspiracy-theories-democrats/
Trump's lawyers have the perfect defense against impeachment: Not Guilty by reason of Stupidity. I'm pretty sure all GOP Senators will buy that defense, while no Democratic Senators will. The more Trump says, the more convincing the Stupidity Defense is. And being stupid is not a high crime and misdemeanor.
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I know you're desperate for attention when you have to start trolling people just to get a reply.
Carry on.
And my, oh my, how you DO carry on!
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Quote:When the Ukrainian President returns to acting in comedy, he will have some very funny stories to tell on TV about the American President. Unlike in Ukraine, America's Trump lovers can't understand the practical joke Trump has played on them. No matter how many times the Democrats explain it to them, or draw them a picture, they don't get it, but the Ukrainians do.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I know you're desperate for attention when you have to start trolling people just to get a reply.
Carry on.
And my, oh my, how you DO carry on!
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Patting your head.
There there.
Carry on.
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Quote:There is a funny picture on the front page of the Houston Chronicle showing the two Presidents (both are actors before becoming Presidents). The expression on the Ukrainian President's face says: "I can't believe the nonsense coming out of Trump's mouth."
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Patting your head.
There there.
Carry on.
Being stupid is not a high crime and misdemeanor, so the Democrats will have very hard time convicting Trump. The 2020 Trump bumper-sticker: "He's stupid. You're stupid. Vote Trump"
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Second: Trump, Russia, Ukraine, Taxes, Criminal.
Also Second: Trump is stupid. Neener neener.
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Quote:Trump says the DNC mail server is in Ukraine, but it never left Washington DC. And he says Crowdstrike is in Ukraine, but it never left California. But yesterday Trump harassed the Ukrainian President about the mail server and Crowdstrike. Trump is too stupid to be convicted for Ukrainegate, but Trump's tax accountants can be charged with tax cheating for their boss. That would drive dumb Trump crazy. He went a little crazy when Michael Cohen, his lawyer, was charged and convicted of tax cheating. As a bonus, attacking Trump's accountants for tax cheating will drive Trump's supporters up a Wall. It won't be a matter of different political opinion; it will be the math of forensic accountants versus Trump's accountants. His accountants, who have to be pretty dumb to work for him, will lose.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second: Trump, Russia, Ukraine, Taxes, Criminal.
Also Second: Trump is stupid. Neener neener.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/26/donald-trump-wants-ukraines-presid
ent-probe-conspiracy-theories-democrats/
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she always gets that stupid 6 yr old teachers pet look on her face...all she really cares about is that in her mind, for the next 3 minutes..the world will be watching her...every word that stammers from her mouth, etc...it's the ego ride of her life, to once again be relevant..even for just a fleeting moment in time... I could care less either way about Trump...it's the fact that our govt is this broken, that has me rankled.
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Trump was turned in by his own staff assholes. For your own good you should at least try to get a grip on reality.
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KIEV, Ukraine — A former top Ukrainian prosecutor, whose allegations were at the heart of the dirt-digging effort by Rudolph W. Giuliani, said Thursday he believed that Hunter Biden did not run afoul of any laws in Ukraine.
“From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” former Ukrainian prosecutor general Yuri Lutsenko told The Washington Post in his first interview since the disclosure of a whistleblower complaint alleging pressure by President Trump on Ukraine’s president, Volodymr Zelensky.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-ukraine-prosecutor-says
-hunter-biden-did-not-violate-anything/ar-AAHTgQp?ocid=spartandhp#page=2
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Trump was turned in by his own staff assholes. For your own good you should at least try to get a grip on reality.
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Trump wasn't "turned in" by anybody.
This whole thing is a joke.
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Quote:Here is another joke from FOX News:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump wasn't "turned in" by anybody.
This whole thing is a joke.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
30 Republican senators would privately vote to impeach Trump
Former Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake made a bold claim on Thursday when he said "at least 35" GOP senators would privately vote for President Trump's impeachment.
"I heard someone say if there were a private vote there would be 30 Republican votes. That's not true," Flake said during a Q&A. "There would be at least 35."
"I can tell you this ... one Republican senator told me if it was a secret vote, 30 Republican senators would vote to impeach Trump," longtime GOP political consultant Mike Murphy said. The joke is that in the Senate there is NO secret vote and NO private vote. Voting publicly to remove Trump would end a GOP Senator's career, but Mike Pence's career would begin rocketing into fame. I guess no GOP Senators want to sacrifice themselves for Pence and country.
www.foxnews.com/media/jeff-flake-35-gop-senators-impeach-trump
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Five Late-night hosts weigh in on news of Trump impeachment inquiry
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Here is another joke from FOX News:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump wasn't "turned in" by anybody.
This whole thing is a joke.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
30 Republican senators would privately vote to impeach Trump
Former Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake made a bold claim on Thursday when he said "at least 35" GOP senators would privately vote for President Trump's impeachment.
"I heard someone say if there were a private vote there would be 30 Republican votes. That's not true," Flake said during a Q&A. "There would be at least 35."
"I can tell you this ... one Republican senator told me if it was a secret vote, 30 Republican senators would vote to impeach Trump," longtime GOP political consultant Mike Murphy said. The joke is that in the Senate there is NO secret vote and NO private vote. Voting publicly to remove Trump would end a GOP Senator's career, but Mike Pence's career would begin rocketing into fame. I guess no GOP Senators want to sacrifice themselves for Pence and country.
www.foxnews.com/media/jeff-flake-35-gop-senators-impeach-trump
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lol
More anon, huh?
You know that's not true buddy.
So sad...
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I want to go on record that this latest Trump skandl looks like another distraction.
But its so big, impeachment big, that I wonder wut it coud be distracting from.
Anybody keeping an eye on Fort Knox?
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Quote:In Federalist 65, Alexander Hamilton considers the problem of impeachment and the Senate. The process, the Constitution framer writes, is meant for offenses “denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
More anon, huh?
You know that's not true buddy.
So sad...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Political offenses are, by nature, politicized. They “agitate the passions of the whole community” and “divide it into parties more or less friendly or inimical to the accused.” The danger, Hamilton says, is that the impeachment process will be decided “more by the comparative strength of parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.” If that proves either the perception or the reality of impeachment, the process loses its legitimacy, and America loses critical protection against tyrants and criminals.
Everything, then, rests on the independence and authority of the body charged with impeachment. Hamilton admitted that there was no tribunal capable of “the most exact standard of perfection,” but the best possible hope lay with the Senate. He believed that no “other body would be likely to feel CONFIDENCE ENOUGH IN ITS OWN SITUATION, to preserve, unawed and uninfluenced, the necessary impartiality between an INDIVIDUAL accused, and the REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE.”
He was wrong about the Senate. He would have been right, if the Senators could work in secret, keeping their vote from being known to the voters back in their home states. Jurors in criminal trials are the perfect example -- if the jurors received the same punishment as the accused, the jurors won't punish, no matter how guilty the accused.
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Originally posted by JO753:
I want to go on record that this latest Trump skandl looks like another distraction.
But its so big, impeachment big, that I wonder wut it coud be distracting from.
Anybody keeping an eye on Fort Knox?
Trump is! Har har har...
Seriously though... I've been batting around this idea for a scifi story. Could be a short story or film, whatever, and it has aspects of presidential mass distraction in it.
Consider: lots of hand held camera work. We see a young couple driving around on a sunny summer day. We see them looking for a condo to move into and we're in the car with them as they have small talk conversations while they look at a few units. We see a montage of their efforts with a edits of interiors and exteriors and just basic shots of their day and back and forth convo. Nothing special, just 2 regular people living their lives. What some viewers might notice is the number of exteriors that have fungus on them. Larger than usual areas that our couple don't seem to notice - easy to miss really.
Cut to: New president being briefed on his first week in office. Solemn setting, big oval table with about 2 dozen very serious looking members of the staff and top representatives of the basic military branches all there. His briefing starts...
Cut to: family room somewhere, someone watching tv, flipping through channels, usual nonsense. Viewer stops on a basic public cable channel because a guy is yelling at the camera about cancer treatments. He says. "Have you people been watching?!? Have you noticed that Big Pharma has been relabeling their anti-fungel drugs as cancer treatments? > guy on couch laughs < "It's a sign! I'm telling you there's ..." *click* channel is changed to Married with Children...
Back to: "Mr. President, time for this week's threat assessment..." we hear the usual threats, many are of a human nature, man v. man type thing, bombs, terrorism, etc... and then, "Oh, and one thing our lab guys wanted me to pass on... it seems a little odd, and we're still defining it, but there's a new study on a new strain of air born fungul / virus we're looking at... probably nothing..."
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We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic...
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Trump wants to execute the whistleblower and all that assisted him/her. Sick, just sick.
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The whistleblower complaint and the cover up: Who is complicit?
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Trump wants to execute the whistleblower and all that assisted him/her. Sick, just sick.
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That's really funny, because he's talking about himself.
C'mon dude. We all know that Trump was the whistleblower.
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Quote:Trump asked the Ukrainian President to do something about CrowdStrike, but it has always been in California. He asked about the DNC server, but it has always been in Washington, DC. And Trump has the story about Joe Biden as mixed up as CrowdStrike and the server. Indict Trump for being stupid! The details of how mixed up Trump's brain is are here:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's really funny, because he's talking about himself.
C'mon dude. We all know that Trump was the whistleblower.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/26/donald-trump-wants-ukraines-presid
ent-probe-conspiracy-theories-democrats/
You know what is stupider? Trump thinks the Whistleblower law is illegal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower_Protection_Act
Trump's tweets are getting dumber:
The Ukraine scandal seems to be making Trump’s tweets even more unhinged.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/27/20886829/liddle-adam-schiff-
trump-tweet-hyphen-apostrophe
The article analyzes the differences between what Trump tweeted today and what he probably meant. His brain is unraveling, perhaps from either medication or lack of sleep.
You might ask, “How did we get here?” As is usually the case, the warning signs were there all along. Maybe we missed them. Worse yet, maybe we saw them and were powerless to stop. Either way, we’re screwed.
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Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
I want to go on record that this latest Trump skandl looks like another distraction.
But its so big, impeachment big, that I wonder wut it coud be distracting from.
Anybody keeping an eye on Fort Knox?
Bet not JO. Still, this is a major fuck up by Trump. Fact, Trump is still colluding and threatening foreign governments in an attempt to influence "sully" our elections. Key word being STILL.
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Quote:Texas Republican voters do not think Trump fucked up. It is right, and it is a GOP President's right (but not a Democratic President's) to use Federal money in order to get cooperation from Ukraine to reelect Trump. What most GOP voters think is right is scandalous. Trump is merely following and is very conscious of what his voters will approve of. With them, his rating is going up and up, right now, today.
Originally posted by THG:
Bet not JO. Still, this is a major fuck up by Trump. Fact, Trump is still colluding and threatening foreign governments in an attempt to influence "sully" our elections. Key word being STILL.
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
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Quote:Texas Republican voters do not think Trump fucked up. It is right, and it is a GOP President's right (but not a Democratic President's) to use Federal money in order to get cooperation from Ukraine to reelect Trump. What most GOP voters think is right is scandalous. Trump is merely following and is very conscious of what his voters will approve of. With them, his rating is going up and up, right now, today.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Bet not JO. Still, this is a major fuck up by Trump. Fact, Trump is still colluding and threatening foreign governments in an attempt to influence "sully" our elections. Key word being STILL.
T
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
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I believe differently second. I think most are still unaware of the facts.
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New Polling Shows Where The Country Stands On Impeachment
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Quote:I think most of the people who voted for Trump in 2016 don't care about facts, and never will, which kind of explains how their lives get into binds and blind alleys. It is literally, not metaphorically, impossible to get them to understand how Trump is transferring Federal money into his own pocket. These are the same people who get screwed over time after time in their personal financial decisions and by their the bosses and in their dealings with landlords, etc. You'd never be able to get those kind of people to pay intelligent attention to what is being done to rip them off. They know they are being screwed; they can't grasp what to do about it; they hope Trump will help; they are so very wrong about him:
Originally posted by THG:
I believe differently second. I think most are still unaware of the facts.
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"The Zelensky Call shines a light on Trump’s financial corruption"
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/27/20886789/trump-zelensky-hote
l-call-transcript
We can only hope that the next election, it comes up Democrat, but Republicans win that coin toss 50% of the time.
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Quote:I think most of the people who voted for Trump in 2016 don't care about facts, and never will, which kind of explains how their lives get into binds and blind alleys. It is literally, not metaphorically, impossible to get them to understand how Trump is transferring Federal money into his own pocket. These are the same people who get screwed over time after time in their personal financial decisions and by their the bosses and in their dealings with landlords, etc. You'd never be able to get those kind of people to pay intelligent attention to what is being done to rip them off. They know they are being screwed; they can't grasp what to do about it; they hope Trump will help; they are so very wrong about him:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I believe differently second. I think most are still unaware of the facts.
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"The Zelensky Call shines a light on Trump’s financial corruption"
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/27/20886789/trump-zelensky-hote
l-call-transcript
We can only hope that the next election, it comes up Democrat, but Republicans win that coin toss 50% of the time.
I think enough of those who feel as you say are beginning to realize Trump is not the answer. That in fact their situations are getting worse
tick tock second. I saw this coming from the very beginning and is why I started this thread. A bold prediction at the time don't you think? Well, here we are.
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Quote:I think they are NOT realizing. I see that "Health Insurance Costs Surpass $20,000 Per Year, Hitting a Record". Since the median household income is only $61,000, Americans are being screwed by just this one thing, not counting all the other financial screwing. Is it possible to get a Trump voter to understand Trump is not fixing this? Not possible. (I forgot to mention Trump tried to fix it by making it worse. Long dead Senator John McCain stopped Trump.)
Originally posted by THG:
I think enough of those who feel as you say are beginning to realize Trump is not the answer. That in fact their situations are getting worse
Fortunately, Trump voters only number about 62,984,828, while the population is 329,064,917. Maybe some of those 200,000,000 who did not vote last time will vote this next time.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-25/why-is-health-insurance-so-
expensive-20-000-a-year-for-coverage
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Pompeo subpoenaed for Ukraine docks by 3 House committees
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has been subpoenaed by three House committees. The committees are "investigating the extent to which President Trump jeopardized national security by pressing Ukraine to interfere with our 2020 election and by withholding security assistance provided by Congress to help Ukraine counter Russian aggression." They are seeking documents from Pompeo by October 4th, 2019.
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/pompeo-subpoenaed-for
-ukraine-docks-by-3-house-committees-70107717753
tick tock Pompeo
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I think they are NOT realizing. I see that "Health Insurance Costs Surpass $20,000 Per Year, Hitting a Record". Since the median household income is only $61,000, Americans are being screwed by just this one thing, not counting all the other financial screwing. Is it possible to get a Trump voter to understand Trump is not fixing this? Not possible.
Originally posted by THG:
I think enough of those who feel as you say are beginning to realize Trump is not the answer. That in fact their situations are getting worse
Fortunately, Trump voters only number about 62,984,828, while the population is 329,064,917. Maybe some of those 200,000,000 who did not vote last time will vote this next time.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-25/why-is-health-insurance-so-
expensive-20-000-a-year-for-coverage
Count on it.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Fortunately, Trump voters only number about 62,984,828, while the population is 329,064,917. Maybe some of those 200,000,000 who did not vote last time will vote this next time.
Oh, they will.
Just not the way you're hoping they will.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:(I forgot to mention Trump tried to fix health care by making it worse, but long dead Senator John McCain stopped it in a famous thumbs down on Trump.) The typical Trump voter was thinking that repealing Obamacare and replacing it with nothing was a GREAT IDEA, but that's the kind of "thinking" that screws up their lives.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I think they are NOT realizing. I see that "Health Insurance Costs Surpass $20,000 Per Year, Hitting a Record". Since the median household income is only $61,000, Americans are being screwed by just this one thing, not counting all the other financial screwing. Is it possible to get a Trump voter to understand Trump is not fixing this? Not possible.
Originally posted by THG:
I think enough of those who feel as you say are beginning to realize Trump is not the answer. That in fact their situations are getting worse
Fortunately, Trump voters only number about 62,984,828, while the population is 329,064,917. Maybe some of those 200,000,000 who did not vote last time will vote this next time.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-25/why-is-health-insurance-so-
expensive-20-000-a-year-for-coverage
Count on it.
T
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The New York Times' Thomas Friedman and the Washington Post's Eugene Robinson discuss Morning Joe's exclusive interview with the House Speaker and the opening of an impeachment inquiry.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/how-impeachment-inquiry-impact
s-us-globally-70079557753
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Originally posted by THG:
The New York Times' Thomas Friedman and the Washington Post's Eugene Robinson discuss Morning Joe's exclusive interview with the House Speaker and the opening of an impeachment inquiry.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/how-impeachment-inquiry-impact
s-us-globally-70079557753
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This is what they talk about between meetings of shifting their focus from Russiagate (because it doesn't sell papers anymore) to racism.
NYT is a total activist driven trash rag. You get better reporting from Weekly World News in 2019.
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Only 2,043 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.
How exciting. 002780
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Yup.
Except that's exactly the opposite of what it said.
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In U.S.-Ukraine dealings, Russia is never far away
KIEV, Ukraine —For decades, as Ukraine has drawn a parade of visiting American diplomats and officeholders and investors and political fixers, Russia has rarely been out of anyone’s line of sight.
It’s all about location — and Ukraine’s now-hostile embrace with its big next door neighbor. Ukraine has become a magnet for all sorts of visitors with expansive — and Moscow-looking — visions. Some see Ukraine as a key to its big neighbor. To others, Ukraine is a crack in Russia’s armor.
While Ukraine has a starring role in the impeachment inquiry in the House, Russia is never far away from anything that happens in Kiev’s territory.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/in-us-ukraine-dealings-russia-is-
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Quote:And that's why intercepting Trump/Ukraine communications is EXACTLY like intercepting Trump/Russia communication!! Eh, THUGGER?
Originally posted by THG:
Ukraine’s now-hostile embrace (?) with its big next door neighbor
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Well at least it looks like T finally figured out that Russia and Ukraine aren't the same thing.
Talk about Progress. 
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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Trump is! Har har har...
Its wun uv many thingz about this that are so obvious the mind instantly dismissez them az silly. 'Trump luvz gold, therefor he will raid Fort Nox' iz a Saturday morning cartoon plot.
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Seriously though... I've been batting around this idea for a scifi story...
some viewers might notice is the number of exteriors that have fungus on them... Big Pharma has been relabeling their anti-fungel drugs as cancer treatments... a new study on a new strain of air born fungul / virus
I am alredy intrigued!
I get a bunch uv story ideaz, but almost never work on them. I only finisht 2 for the nqalf website story section! I blame a lak uv time due to a lak uv money, but really, if you hav enuf enthuziazm for sumthing, you find the time.
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Still, this is a major fuck up by Trump. Fact, Trump is still colluding and threatening foreign governments in an attempt to influence "sully" our elections. Key word being STILL.
Its starting to look like it.
I wuz thinking it wuz a plot to discredit the Congressional committeez investigating the TrumPutin Conspirasy - create a seemingly eazy win for them that turnz out to be bogus. It woud explain wy Trump didnt try to stop the release uv the transcipt and the complaint. It woud be from the FSB or GRU
(wichever Russian espianaj ajensy makes plots uv this kind), and likely with input from Republican stratejists.
But now that more detailz are out, that duznt make az much sens az Trump screwed up.
Hiz feeble brain iz soaking in the same eko chamber fantasy az hiz idiotic fanz, so he wuz thinking 'the transcript makes me look like a real player. A powerful Prezident uzing hiz power to get an investigation moving. Powerful!'
He knowz its just Gulianni and Barr adding fake meat to their Russia Hoax fable, wich iz alredy settled history in the eko chamber, but he iz getting senile, so coudnt see how the call coud be seen any other way.
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lol
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Originally posted by second:
Texas Republican voters do not think Trump fucked up.
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Originally posted by THG:
I believe differently second. I think most are still unaware of the facts.
Both statements are true.
Trumps chumps think they know wuts going on, but are getting all their 'facts' from the eko chamber. They check nothing.
I found an old frend online hoo livez in Texas. Turnz out he'z a rabid Trump fan. He sendz me links to storyz from Brietbart, Fox, American Thinker, etc and then flat out refuzez to read links to the debunks bekuz its 'the lamestream Democrat controlled media.'
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Texas Republican voters do not think Trump fucked up.Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I believe differently second. I think most are still unaware of the facts.
Both statements are true.
Trumps chumps think they know wuts going on, but are getting all their 'facts' from the eko chamber. They check nothing.
I found an old frend online hoo livez in Texas. Turnz out he'z a rabid Trump fan. He sendz me links to storyz from Brietbart, Fox, American Thinker, etc and then flat out refuzez to read links to the debunks bekuz its 'the lamestream Democrat controlled media.'
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How many of his links did you read or watch, JO?
Don't bother answering. Just pointing out the obvious fact that you're just as guilty of the exact same behavior as you're accusing your friend of.
It's the Legacy Media, not the lamestream media. Make sure to tell your friend to call it by the right name when you talk to him next.
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Moment Chris Wallace warns Teamtrump over Ukraine Whistleblower
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5 more years until Trump is out.
How exciting.
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CBS News poll: Majority of Americans, Democrats approve impeachment inquiry
More than half of Americans — and an overwhelming number of Democrats — say they approve of the fact that Congress has opened an impeachment inquiry into President Trump. But as the inquiry begins, there is no national consensus on how to assess the president's actions.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cbs-news-poll-majority-of-amer
icans-democrats-approve-impeachment-inquiry/ar-AAI1Bml?ocid=spartandhp
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CBS News poll: Majority of Americans, Democrats approve impeachment inquiry
More than half of Americans — and an overwhelming number of Democrats — say they approve of the fact that Congress has opened an impeachment inquiry into President Trump. But as the inquiry begins, there is no national consensus on how to assess the president's actions.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cbs-news-poll-majority-of-amer
icans-democrats-approve-impeachment-inquiry/ar-AAI1Bml?ocid=spartandhp
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Well, to be fair, if anybody asked me I would tell them that I approve of the impeachment inquiry. I've been saying that they should impeach him as long as any of you guys have.
Glad to see that they're finally doing an investigation to decide whether or not they're going to impeach him at a later date or not.
You can never have too many of those.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How many of his links did you read or watch, JO?
All uv them exept the repeats.
I usually debunk them point by point.
Today it included a revival uv the Uranium 1 Deal story. They never giv up on them kuz they know their readerz dont check anything.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How many of his links did you read or watch, JO?
All uv them exept the repeats.
I usually debunk them point by point.
Today it included a revival uv the Uranium 1 Deal story. They never giv up on them kuz they know their readerz dont check anything.
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That's funny, JO.
You haven't debunked anything here. You must be saving the good stuff for your real life friends I guess.
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Trump says the whistleblower complaint isn’t accurate. The White House keeps showing how it is.
COMPLAINT: "Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that, after an initial exchange of pleasantries, the President used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests.”
TRANSCRIPT: Trump speaks in nine discrete segments.
He congratulates Zelensky on winning the presidency.
He says Ukraine is happy Zelensky won.
He mentions how much aid the United States provides to Ukraine.
He asks a favor: Investigate (baseless) rumors about Ukrainian involvement in an assessment of Russia’s hacking of the Democratic National Committee in 2016.
He encourages working with his attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani and pushes for an investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son.
He says he’ll have Giuliani and Attorney General William P. Barr call about the investigation.
He invites Zelensky to the White House.
He says he’ll see Zelensky at the White House or at an event in Poland (that he ended up not attending).
He again offers his congratulations.
Except for the invitation to the White House — though even that is questionable — the whistleblower’s allegation is accurate.
COMPLAINT: “According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son, Hunter Biden. …" (A different transliteration of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s surname is used throughout the document.)
TRANSCRIPT: Trump says, "[T]here’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”
COMPLAINT: “ … assist in purportedly uncovering that allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election originated in Ukraine, with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cyber security firm Crowdstrike, which initially reported that Russian hackers had penetrated the DNC’s networks in 2016 …"
TRANSCRIPT: Trump says, “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation.” (Ellipses in the original.)
COMPLAINT: “ … and meet or speak with two people the President named explicitly as his personal envoys on these matters, Mr. Giuliani and Attorney General Barr, to whom the President referred multiple times in tandem.”
TRANSCRIPT: Trump praises Giuliani at one point, saying that “[h]e was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening, and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great.”
At another point he says he “will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to [have] Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it.” At another point he says he “will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call.”
COMPLAINT: “The President also praised Ukraine’s Prosecutor General, Mr. Yuriy Lutsenko, and suggested that Mr. Zelenskyy might want to keep him in his position.”
TRANSCRIPT: Trump talks about a prosecutor, but it’s not clear whether he’s referring to Viktor Shokin — whom Biden fought to get fired — or Shokin’s replacement, Lutsenko. Lutsenko, it’s worth noting, had h
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Four debunked talking points used to discredit the whistleblower complaint
To defend President Trump against the whistleblower allegations, Republicans in Congress are having to dodge or misstate some key facts. Here are the most common talking points they are using to discredit the complaint and why those don’t hold up.
Talking point No. 1: There is no quid pro quo — in the call or the whistleblower complaint
This is technically true. According to a rough transcript of Trump’s July call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Trump didn’t say: Do this for me, and I’ll do this for you. But he didn’t have to be that explicit. The context surrounding this call would lead any reasonable person to believe that Trump had things to offer the Ukrainian president if he helped Trump out. Consider:
Days before the call, Trump froze bipartisan military aid to Ukraine.
Trump mentioned he needed a “favor” from the president right after Zelensky indicated he would like to buy more Javelin missiles from the United States.
Trump resisted a White House meeting with Zelensky, something Zelensky desperately wanted, for some time. After Zelensky appeared to agree to help Trump out, Zelensky suddenly got what he had long wanted. Trump said: “Good. Well, thank you very much, and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House feel free to call. Give us a date, and we’ll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.”
Plus, the idea of a quid pro quo may be a red herring. “You normally don’t have a quid pro quo stated expressly,” former federal prosecutor Randall Eliason told The Washington Post. “This is almost as close as you can get.”
Talking point No. 2: The whistleblower has political motivations, and so the complaint can’t be trusted
Page 5 of a report about the whistleblower by Michael Atkinson, the intelligence community inspector general, mentions that the whistleblower has “arguable political bias … in favor of a rival candidate.”
But in the very next sentence, Atkinson also said he had determined that that did not affect the credibility of the complaint. “Such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern ‘appears credible,’ particularly given the other information the [intelligence community inspector general] obtained during its preliminary review."
In other words, Atkinson reviewed all angles of potential conflicts of interest by this whistleblower and still found his or her complaint to be credible, including by finding separate evidence.
Also, in questioning Thursday in the House Intelligence Committee, acting director of national intelligence Joseph Maguire backed up the whistleblower’s credibility. (Maguire said he does not know who the whistleblower is, but read this exchange between him and Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.):
SCHIFF: You don’t believe the whistleblower is a political hack?
MAGUIRE: I believe the whistleblower is operating in good faith and has followed the law.
A few minutes later:
SCHIFF: Do you have any reason to accuse him or her of disloyalty to the country or suggest he is beholden to anything else but the country?
MAGUIRE: Absolutely not. I believe the whistleblower followed the steps every way.
[What we learned from Joseph Maguire's testimony about the whistleblower complaint]
Finally, the inspector general who investigated the complaint found the whistleblower to have “subject matter expertise” about the material.
Talking point No. 3: The whistleblower had only secondhand knowledge
This is also true. But it’s not enough to discredit the entire complaint. If we think of the whistleblower as a reporter, the whistleblower talked to a lot of people who had firsthand knowledge.
In one key instance, we have original
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Mitch McConnell: Senate must hold trial on Trump if House impeaches
WASHINGTON – Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said the Senate would have "no choice" but to hold a trial on President Donald Trump if the House votes to put forward articles of impeachment.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mitch-mcconnell-senate-must-ho
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What's different about this poll. It's not about an impeachment inquiry but impeachment itself.
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CNN poll: Rising Republican support for impeaching Trump
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Quote:Seems cartoonists are selectively illiterate.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.
Except that's exactly the opposite of what it said.
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It said The Vice President Is A Crook. Such as the Former Veep.
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Quote:BREAKING NEWS!!!
Originally posted by THG:
Mitch McConnell: Senate must hold trial on Trump if House impeaches
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ld-trial-on-trump-if-house-impeaches/ar-AAI4n0F?ocid=spartanntp
BREAKING NEWS!!!!
Abut 240 years ago the Constitution was ratified. So now pmsn and T have caught on already.
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The odds of impeachment of course favor the president, because 67 votes to remove remains an almost certainly impassable bar. But Trump is bringing nothing else to this contest besides inertia. His own actions are the worst possible. In a fight his opponents probably cannot win, he is exerting all his manic, directionless energy to lose.
During the Lewinsky scandal, Clinton focused on doing his job. Trump isn’t even pretending.
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/trumps-impeachment-plan-oppo
site-clintons/599095/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol
At any point in time did you really think Trump was going to take any cues from a Clinton?
He'll be fine.
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Quote:Trump? Fine? Really?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
At any point in time did you really think Trump was going to take any cues from a Clinton?
He'll be fine.
Trump said of Rep. Adam Schiff, the designated leader of the impeachment proceedings in the House, in his Sunday tweet: “I want him investigated at the highest level for Fraud & Treason.”
Treason, as Trump recalled at a private U.N. event last week, is punishable by death.
On Monday, Trump denounced Schiff as a traitor. He ended his rant - one of many these past few days - with the quite literal suggestion that Schiff be arrested for treason.
Schiff is not the only target of Trump’s wildly unprecedented fuming. So is the career CIA agent who apparently authored the whistleblower complaint. His anonymity is protected under our laws, but Trump has demanded to meet him - and whomever provided him or her the firsthand information about the call. “Was this person spying on the President of the United States?” Trump asked on Twitter.
Espionage, too, is a capital offense.
On Sunday, Trump’s senior adviser, Stephen Miller, the author of some of the most troubling aspects of the president’s agenda, appeared on television to dismiss the whistleblower’s complaint as the workings of the so-called Deep State, expressing a kind of political paranoia that used to be reserved for totalitarian regimes but has now become a frequent and utterly misguided talking point by the far-right in this country.
In normal times these statements would have brought everyone in Washington to their feet to protest, or to at least counsel temperance. In these abnormal times, we have seen example after example of silence or complicity throughout nearly the entire GOP caucuses in the Senate and the House. That acquiescence is dangerous.
We don’t know yet whether Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president is part of a pattern of abuse of power that will lead to a trial in the Senate, nor how senators would vote if they were asked to sit in judgment. Speaker Nancy Pelosi has merely authorized the beginning of an investigation into whether he should be impeached.
If the Democrats have overplayed their hands, they will face political consequences for doing so. But if Republicans don’t stand up to Trump’s unprecedented rhetoric about treason, espionage and even civil war if he were to be impeached, then no matter what the proceedings’ outcome, Republicans will be responsible for serious damage to the Republic.
There will be a political price for that, too, but it may come too late.
www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Why-Trump-s-treaso
n-talk-is-dangerous-to-14484231.php
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump? Fine? Really?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
At any point in time did you really think Trump was going to take any cues from a Clinton?
He'll be fine.
Did I stutter?
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Quote:Today, Trump threatened to do $billions in damage to China unless it finds dirt on Biden.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Did I stutter?
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Trump just encouraged 2 countries to interfere in the 2020 election — on camera. Will he get away with it? Or will he and 6ixStringJack pretend his words don't mean what his mouth said?
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/3/20896926/trump-china-biden-u
kraine-impeachment-pool-october
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Maybe this time will be different.
Nope.
I seriously doubt that it will Vox "news".
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Quote:Reuters had the same news as Vox, about Trump asking China to help him win the 2020 election, with one difference: Reuters did not make the connection between Trump's tweets today threatening China if it does not help Trump destroy Biden. This is the same old thing that got Trump in trouble about Ukraine last week. Obviously Trump will deny that his words mean what his mouth says, but China knows what Trump means, even if 6ixStringJack and other Trump voters know nothing.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Maybe this time will be different.
Nope.
I seriously doubt that it will Vox "news".
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/trump-again-seeks-f
oreign-help-to-investigate-bidens-calling-on-china-idUSKBN1WI0BC
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol
I guess you can take that to the bank with you and masturbate over how intellectually superior you are to everybody else when impeachment doesn't happen and Trump is your president until 2025.
Have a nice day.
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