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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I'll take Giamatti with Private Parts (as Pig Vomit), Lady in the Water, The Negotiator, and Saving Private Ryan.
Also Cage in The Boy in Blue, and Gurading Tess (although I dislike MacLaine).
Bale is born in 74.
I also enjoy Cheadle's work, ditto for Rockwell.
The rest can be skipped.
Norton had his breakout in Primal Fear, but showing up Gere isn't that hard. Haven't been impressed since then.
Also add Jennifer Connelly (b 1970, although many times a similar role, actually some range in there too, but in roles she did not like), Laura Linney, and Marisa Tomei.
Where's the accolades for, um, that guy, Tom Cruise?

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
And how about another who is just five years older than Pitt and Depp? Gary Oldman.

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Originally posted by boris:
What about all of the other excellent actors of their ilk, who haven't had the same exposure or have been forgotten for whatever reason: Kyle Secor, Tom Everett Scott, Aidan Quinn, Timothy Hutton, Matthew Modine, etc etc.

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Originally posted by seryn:

Jennifer Connelly is older than Christian Bale? Damn thats some good moisturiser.

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And how about another who is just five years older than Pitt and Depp? Gary Oldman.

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I have one rule of thumb when it comes to acting. Those that do comedy are the better actors. For the simple reason that their range is wider.

I still regard the scene in the Nutty Professor when Eddie murphy is sat around the dinner table with - what is it, 8 different versions of himself, and intereacting with each of them as though they are right there with him at that instance in time... As one of the best moments in acting. When you consider what was involved in a scene like that, the time in between takes, probably took a week or so to shoot! Yet when all edited together, it's seemless. Brilliant acting!... Hopkins couldn't a done that!

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

I still regard the scene in the Nutty Professor when Eddie murphy is sat around the dinner table with - what is it, 8 different versions of himself, and intereacting with each of them as though they are right there with him at that instance in time... As one of the best moments in acting. When you consider what was involved in a scene like that, the time in between takes, probably took a week or so to shoot! Yet when all edited together, it's seemless. Brilliant acting!... Hopkins couldn't a done that!

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Most good actors prefer stage acting, and stage actors would strongly disagree with your assertion.

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
jewelstaitefan wrote:

In my (particular) opinion the best piece of acting I've seen is the one I mentioned. I don't happen to believe it will be regarded as so by the majority, but that is not the issue.

However I based my opinion on the idea that were another actor (Lets say stage actor for arguments sake) to attempt to do what Eddie Murphy did in the Nutty Professor, I wonder if that (stage) actor would manage to do it with quite the finesse that Eddie Murphy did. Of course we'll never know for sure, but I feel fairly confident that Eddie Murphy could go on stage and perform Othello, or Death of a salesman etc.

Who knows?

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As a young child, Elizabeth Taylor did a spot audition by grieving over her dead dog in moving fashion, the dog played by a ready mop. She became a child star, and beyond.

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Eddie as a grown man did little more than this, and editing covers up all his mistakes. Nutty Prof, or Distiguished Gentelman, or his other fliks are not monuments to acting, but feats of editing, continuity, and coordination, which are not the function of the actor. I prefer Mike Myers in So I Married an Axe Murderer, and his much better accent, but you can remain stuck on Eddie

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

I still regard the scene in the Nutty Professor when Eddie murphy is sat around the dinner table...

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Most good actors prefer stage acting, and stage actors would strongly disagree with your assertion.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Was watching one of the Pirate movies last night, w/ Johnny Depp. I guess that was on my mind, when I heard an ad for his new upcoming movie, Public Enemies. Then came to mind... wow...he's been in a variety of stuff, and done them all pretty darn well. That got me thinking.... of actors about his age ( born in the 1960's ) there's some considerable talent.

Ed Norton

Robert Downey Jr

Paul Giamatti

Phillip Seymour Hoffman


I had even considered adding Nicholas Cage to the list, but then thought better of it. He's very successful, but I've not seen the range from him that I've seen from the others. I could be wrong though.

So, among the 5 ( Depp,Downey Jr, Giamatti, Hoffman and Norton ) which one is considered 'the best' ?

Or does it even matter ? I like them all.

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