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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Okay. Back to my meditation.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Life is a terminal condition. No one here gets out alive.

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
There is a purpose to life. You can focus on the negative aspects of life easily(most people do). I like to enjoy life. I focus on the positive, and find humor in how crappy things can be at times.

Life is a beautiful, painful experience. Try to enjoy the ride my friend.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Life is a terminal condition. No one here gets out alive.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Chris, maybe your liberal outlook is being studied to see how tolerant and understanding you can be in the face of a frustrating personal situation. Maybe this is YOUR Kobayashi Maru. There is no right or wrong answer, only your own way of dealing with it is what matters.

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:


...pass the beer nuts!

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It seems logical that there is something behind the creation of the Universe

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ecgordon wrote

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It seems logical that there is something behind the creation of the Universe

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Sorry, really, but it isn't logical. According to logic, you cannot explain any event by attributing it to something even more inexplicable (such as a deity). That is Infinite Regress, and is a counter-logical argument.

I don't mean to be rude, or pick on your beliefs. I'm open minded enough to admit that we as human beings don't know everything, and that I could be wrong in my belief that there is no god, just cosmic accidents. I even admit that logic may not always have the answers - occam's razor isn't as sharp as it used to be But to say that the notion of our being created by higher beings is logical is technically innaccurate.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Originally posted by Storymark:
It "seems" logical.... huh.

To me, it "seems" just as "logical" (as in, there is little to be applied in the conversation) that we are just a natural occurrence.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
That only applies if you assume life MUST have developed on earth, and nowhere else. Otherwise, with the VAST number and variety of planets and other bodies in the universe, statistics indicate that the right conditions were bound to exist somewhere.

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In the 90's some scientists theorized that there are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on the earth.

That put into proportion just how small(and I mean SMALL) we really are. I was humbled, and will never, ever feel we are just a natural occurrence.

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It seems logical that there is something behind the creation of the Universe

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Sorry, really, but it isn't logical. According to logic, you cannot explain any event by attributing it to something even more inexplicable (such as a deity). That is Infinite Regress, and is a counter-logical argument.

I don't mean to be rude, or pick on your beliefs. I'm open minded enough to admit that we as human beings don't know everything, and that I could be wrong in my belief that there is no god, just cosmic accidents. I even admit that logic may not always have the answers - occam's razor isn't as sharp as it used to be But to say that the notion of our being created by higher beings is logical is technically innaccurate.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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But don't forget that I followed that statement with the fact I don't attribute any anthropomorphic properties to whatever it was that is responsible for the creation. You can't offend me because I prefer to say that I don't have any beliefs because I'm not intelligent enough to understand the essence of what that sort of deity might be like. All religions, and even most philosophies of a more secular nature, have as their purpose an attempt to explain the unexplainable.

If it is not logical to assume a creator then it certainly isn't logical to assume otherwise either.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Life is a terminal condition. No one here gets out alive.

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psssh we're all immortal until proven otherwise.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If God existed he'd be one fucked-up individual, creating a world to mess with, just to find out about us that which he already knows & designed into us...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Letting off some steam is fun, huh?

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I should have known better than to get involved in this. The last thing I would ever try to do is convince someone I had any notion of what the reality of the universe actually is. Nothing of this nature can be proven either way, so why even bother speculating?

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It "seems" logical.... huh.

To me, it "seems" just as "logical" (as in, there is little to be applied in the conversation) that we are just a natural occurrence.

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Yeah, what is unnatural is the 'perfect placement' of everything on this earth and in our solar system.
The distance of the sun from the earth is perfect for us. Any closer, and we all be living underground. The 'hardwiring' of human sex drive. Any more and we be fiends(Tiger Woods) any less, and our numbers would eventually wither and die. Just enough to keep our species alive and kicking for the next few hundred thousand years.
Enough water(For 95% of countries anyway) for us to live comfortably. The perfection of the seasons, our life cycles in general, our nervous system, our ability to love.
If this is random I'd give my life to comprehend a planned order to the universe.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Because it can be fun.
My take is that we exist. Why?
"Why does the sun come up? Or are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of darkness? Who knows?"

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Because it can be fun.
My take is that we exist. Why?
"Why does the sun come up? Or are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of darkness? Who knows?"

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The answer to your questions is simple: To entertain and amuse me.

You see, my world revolves around me and bends to my will. Well, from my perspective anyway.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
this desire to be aware, to be conscious, nascent in every material thing, is what created life and continues to drive every living thing to strive toward greater and greater flourishing

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Because it can be fun.
My take is that we exist. Why?
"Why does the sun come up? Or are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of darkness? Who knows?"

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The answer to your questions is simple: To entertain and amuse me.

You see, my world revolves around me and bends to my will. Well, from my perspective anyway.

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Cool, but has no one caught the Highlander quote?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Storymark:


Though it's "curtain of night".

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Originally posted by WhoDied:
I’ve spent years in my back yard with a trowel and I’ve yet to find a dinosaur bone.

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How deep have you gone?

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Originally posted by fillygirl:


My 2 cents,....if this (life, the Universe and everything) was an accident, it was a well organized accident.

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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