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Thursday, March 1, 2012 5:32 PM

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Cryptozoology on Wiki => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology#Discoveries

"Cryptozoology (from Greek kryptos, 'hidden' + zoology; literally, 'study of hidden animals') refers to the search
for animals whose existence has not been proven."

"Cryptozoologists claim there have been cases where species now accepted by the scientific community were initially
considered superstition, hoaxes, delusions or misidentifications."

"Cryptozoology has been criticised because of its reliance on anecdotal information and because some cryptozoologists
do not follow the scientific method ..."
(Oonj: Yeah, and some investigate only the most famous and controversial cryptids.)
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Platypus:
"The unusual appearance of this egg-laying, venomous, duck-billed, beaver-tailed, otter-footed mammal baffled European naturalists
when they first encountered it, with some considering it an elaborate fraud."

So-called facts about the so-called platypus :=> http://fusionanomaly.net/platypus.html

I admit that they are really cute. But that gives us no right to pretend they are real.
Join "the Platypus Does Not Exist" movement.

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 5:44 PM

I like the lizards from Korea?? I think it was, THAT ARE ALL FEMALE! Can someone explain THAT to my granny, she just thinks they are sinful male-hating lizards

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 6:46 PM

Read this to her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis
"Parthenogenesis is a form of asexual reproduction ... studied extensively in the New Mexico whiptail (genus Cnemidophorus),
of which 15 species reproduce exclusively by parthenogenesis"

The New Mexico whiptails don't hate the males ... they just can't find any.

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 7:15 PM

It was a joke...She's not THAT bad. I'm sure there are a few out there that would call hogwash though...

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 8:17 PM

It'd make a cute headline, tho: "Whiptail Lizards Invent Cloning Before Human Scientists!"

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 3:09 AM

All time:
Komodo Dragon Lizard.

Runners up:
Oarfish aka Sea Serpent.
Colossal Squid aka Sea Monster.

All three of which were considered "no such thing" and "do not exist"...
Till someone actually FOUND one and all but bashed so-called experts over the head with it.

-F

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Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:53 PM

...and the coelacanth (I hope spelled properly LOL).

Obviously the platypus is a shameless Photoshop project.

5 X chromosomes, 5 Y chromosomes?

Get real.

Pranksters should always avoid going over the top when presenting claims of cryptids, odd plants (e.g. The Monkees' Frodis flower), hauntings, psi phenomena, miracle drugs, political candidates....

bun
if it ain't one thing it's another.

(Actually, that's a terrific video; the little things are so cute!)

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Monday, March 5, 2012 4:58 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

I'm actually kind of into cryptozoology, its something I've found interesting since middle or high school, I love learning about new animals I've never heard of before and I have a pretty open mind about new animals to be found. My favorite is the dinosaur that supposedly lives in the Congo, the river there is super deep and MonsterQuest unearthed some compelling evidence. So its my favorite.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:14 AM

I hope Nessie is either found or satisfactorily explained before I shuffle off this mortal coil. It was my first mystery beast, and I'll always be attached to it/her.

bun

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Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:12 AM

Crocodiles lived during the reign of the dinosaurs, so they are dinosaurs that didn't die out.
How ancient is the Komodo? There could be more living dinosaurs. I hope.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:26 AM

Top: coelacanth. I chose the drawing as it shows the best detail.
Bottom: Oarfish. They are long like a snake with a "filament" crest. Dorsal fin goes length of the body.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:29 AM

Top: Leafy dragon. I know nothing about it.
Bottom: Komodo dragon taking a walk on the beach.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:06 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

My favorite proven ones are Komodos, platapusses and achidnas, any mammal who lays eggs is good with me, that is so cool. And any animal that people thought was extinct but then found again, like the fish you showed above, can't spell it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:40 AM

Nile crocs are special. They look like tree-bark floating in the water.
I love that leafy green fish. Never saw one before!
We have a huge grey cat who reminds me of that K. dragon. Or a big, fat bear.

Modern-day birds are easily seen as having evolved from dinos. When I have that thought and look at one I experience a perceptual shift which seems to explain a number of things about birds and may help with dinos as well.

We are now discovering colored feathers on dino fossils. I'm eager to see more re-visualizations of these creatures, having been familiar since childhood with a) bare bones and b) leather-couch-style finishing.

bun

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Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:25 PM

Top: Echidna = spiny anteater
Low left: mokele-mbembe of the Congo
Low right: Hummingbird moth = Hemaris sp.

Sorry. I've not yet found a photo of the real dino.

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Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:21 AM

I love hummingbird moths! A lot of people don't know what they are and get all confused when they spot one. Then they call up the all-night flying saucer show and ask if they're aliens.

That Echidna is really cute. No-o-ot quite pettable, though.

For goodness' sake, no photos of dinos? We have the intertubes at our fingertips, and improved searching all the time!!1!

bun

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Sunday, March 11, 2012 4:58 PM

Mokele-mbembe: The Living Dinosaur! => http://www.mokelembembe.com/
This page tells all about the beastie.

1 April 2011 - Darren Naish's blog => http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2011/04/science_meets_mokele-m
bembe.php
"After decades of searching, Africa's mystery Congolese swamp monster,
the Mokele-Mbembe, has been discovered - it is a living sauropod dinosaur"

This article is long with a lotta pictures. It starts fairly
well, but skimming down, I soon realized that the fellow is having us on.
It was, after all, the day for it.

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Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:26 PM

I think the Hellbender is interesting, if nothing else just because it's so weird it deserved such an awesome name. One aquarium that was supposed to have it didn't, and another had the habitat soo dark it was impossible to see it.

I'd love to see one up close.

The other thing that sticks in my head is the Blobfish, as it looks like it should be able to carry on some innane conversation about shoelaces or umbrellas for HOURS.

Also the Dumbo Octopus, because it looks surrealistically like a Pokemon...

BTW, We had a hawk hit our living room window today, flying at an angle to get something, and it hit soo hard it left a streak, and I thought the window was gonna break. Nature loves wacky-ness!

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Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:26 PM

The latest news is that human-ish bones which have been kicking around in a museum drawer for 30 years may be their own separate line.

bun

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Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:37 PM

Yeah, I saw that. China, yes?

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Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:18 PM

Yep. Was hearing about it on Beeb overnight. Will be interesting to see if it pans out.

bun

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Thursday, March 15, 2012 6:09 PM

Top: Dumbo octopus
Low left: Blob fish
Low right: Axolotl

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Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:51 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

The little guy on the bottom left is really cute.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Friday, March 16, 2012 7:19 AM

Who's the handsome dude upper right?
And where do you get these images?

bun

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Friday, March 16, 2012 8:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
Who's the handsome dude upper right?

Yer kidding, right?? Morgan Freeman (otherwise know as GOD) Robin Hood, Brice Almighty, Dark Knight, Shawshank Redemption, Sum of all fears,Unforgiven, Seven, Deep Impact, March of the Penguins, Mandela..ect.

I think I remember he narrated the bible on tape?? I'd listen to that man read a phone book.

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Friday, March 16, 2012 9:29 AM

Eeek, no. Morgan F. is part of our DNA by now. I meant the upper right of the photos. The bulgy yellow guy.

bun

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Friday, March 16, 2012 12:45 PM

Sorry, I just heard "handsome dude" not directionals.. I think that is the baby dumbo octopus, growing into the thing on the left....
That's the one I think looks like a pokemon.

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Friday, March 16, 2012 5:19 PM

Oddly, I was thinking Pokemon as well.
I was also thinking Dale Chihuly, looking at all of these except for Morgan F.

bun

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Monday, April 2, 2012 2:47 PM

An Irishman's Diary [the British Isles learns of Yeti?] =>
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0317/1224313474014.ht
ml

Lieut-Col Charles Kenneth Howard-Bury's 1921 expedition to Mt Everest:
"On October 12th The Irish Times reported that the expedition had failed
to conquer Everest but “that everybody will be glad that at last partial
success has crowned the heroic efforts”. A path had been found “which has
proved that ascent to the top of Everest’s 29,000ft is feasible for expert
and dauntless climbers under favourable weather conditions”.

"In fact, it took over 30 years – until May 29th 1953 – when New-Zealander
Edmund Hillary and his Nepalese Sherpa, Tenzing Norgay became the first
climbers to reach the summit of Mount Everest."

Then - "But an extraordinary sequel to the Howard-Bury expedition was about
to unfold. An Irish Times story on Friday, October 21st, 1921 carried a
headline guaranteed to thrill readers: “Wild Hairy Man – Strange Footprints
on Everest”.

"The report quoted remarks made by Howard-Bury: “We distinguished hare and
fox tracks, but one mark like that of a human foot, was most puzzling. The
coolies assured us that it was the track of a wild, hairy man, and that
these men were occasionally to be found in the wildest and most inaccessible
mountains.” And thus was born a 20th-century yarn eclipsed only by the Loch
Ness Monster.

"On October 31st, The Irish Times carried a further report, from Calcutta,
which stated that: “The coolies from Mount Everest bring confused stories
about strange wild men . . . who are apparently known to the Tibetans as
Meetogh Kangmi or “abominable snowmen” and small colonies of these people
are believed to exist on the slopes of Everest”. The creatures were “never
seen by any of the white members of the Expedition” but “one coolie described
their feet as being turned outwards, and reported that they were supposed to
be clothed only in their own hair. They are reported to live on wild animals,
and to be hostile to civilised people, but it is quite easy to evade them”.

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Monday, April 2, 2012 2:49 PM

Bigfoot? He's not so elusive =>
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/27/entertainment/la-et-bigfoot-20
120327

"Imagine a hulking, growling, 8-foot-tall woodland creature so elusive
that professional trackers can't find it, scientists can only speculate
about it and believers can't prove -- definitively -- that it exists.
. . .
"There's been a real upswing in scholarly interest along with this huge
undercurrent of popularity among the general public," said Jeffrey Meldrum,
the Idaho State anatomy and anthropology professor and primates expert who
wrote "Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science" as a companion to a Discovery
Channel special of the same name. "There's something about the human psyche
that really connects with this icon."

. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.

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Monday, April 2, 2012 4:20 PM

Evidently, James Cameron found nothing fantastic at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Must be too far down.

bun

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Monday, April 2, 2012 6:56 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

He didn't see anything? I know the first time they went down they found a fish, but cameron didn't see anything? What????? (insert irritation and disappointment here)

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, April 2, 2012 7:42 PM

I didn't read what he said.
The term "featureless landscape" comes to mind.

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Monday, April 2, 2012 8:18 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

I'm quite into deep ocean creatures, I especially like the glowy ones.

I once had this creepy dream that has stuck with me, I dreamt that I was in a sub down 25,000 feet and there were these swimming orangatans that made noises like the shrieking eels on Princess Bride, they were swimming around down there. REdiculous I know but it scared me and, secretly, kind of still gives me the shivers.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:50 PM

Not a cryptid, but interesting . . .

Yutyrannus huali: Latest dinosaur find is a big, fuzzy brute =>
http://www.thespec.com/news/world/article/699553--latest-dinosaur-find
-is-a-big-fuzzy-brute

Fossils discovered in northeastern China of a giant, previously
unrecognized dinosaur show that it is the largest known feathered
animal, living or extinct, scientists report.

Although several species of dinosaurs with feathers have already
been uncovered in the rich fossil beds of Liaoning province, the
three largely complete 125-million-year-old specimens are by far
the largest. The adult was at least 10 metres long and weighed a
ton and a half, some 40 times the heft of Beipiaosaurus, the
largest previously known feathered dinosaur. The two juveniles
were a mere half ton each.

The new species was a distant relative of Tyrannosaurus rex,
the mighty predator that lived 60 million years later.

In an article in the journal Nature, published online Wednesday,
Chinese and Canadian paleontologists said the discovery provided
the first “direct evidence for the presence of extensively feathered
gigantic dinosaurs” and offered “new insights into early feather
evolution.”

New York Times

Did Dinosaurs Really Have Feathers?

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:01 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

I wish all these amazing creatures weren't extinct. :(

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, April 9, 2012 6:37 PM

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Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:57 AM

Bogue: Is 'bigfoot' a real, live creature? =>
http://www.mercurynews.com/gary-bogue/ci_20193380/bogue-is-bigfoot-rea
l-live-creature

Dear Gary: OK, old master of the universe, you've got to help me.
My wife says I am crazy, and I told her I knew you and us guys stick together,
so here goes:
I have been watching the "Finding Bigfoot" series on TV's Animal Planet faithfully
since last year and was wondering if you believe in Bigfoot to be a fact.

There is a lot that could be real but, then again, there may not be.
I have never seen anything on it in your columns. What do you think? True or not?
I will believe whatever you say. ...

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Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:55 PM

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Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
... secretly, kind of still gives me the shivers.

Should I point out this is THE WORLD WIDE WEB??

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Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:03 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

Good point Wish, :)

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Monday, April 23, 2012 7:05 PM

Using Leeches to Track the World’s Rarest Animals =>
http://gizmodo.com/5904496/using-leeches-to-track-the-worlds-rarest-an
imals

The Grizzly Bear, the Snow Leopard, the Orangutan—these animals were once thought
to be mere folklore before their existences were proven with hard, biological evidence.
Now, one research team wants to harvest the same evidence from the world's wilds
using a natural collection network of leeches.

Monitoring wildlife is both an essential aspect of any conservation effort and one of
its most difficult challenges. ...

(Were folklore: panda, duckbilled platypus, okapi, Komodo dragon, bonobos chimp.)

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Monday, November 26, 2012 10:47 AM

Reposted from RWED where ...
the anthropology news of the century is of No Interest.
Indeed, I feel certain that the MSM and science communities
will continue to ignore it while they still can.

Press release, Dr. Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA study results:
(24 Nov 2012)
http://dnadiagnostics.com/press.html

"A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA
study, currently under peer-review, confirms the existence of
a novel hominin hybrid species, commonly called “Bigfoot” or
“Sasquatch,” living in North America. Researchers’ extensive
DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a ..."

"Ketchum calls on public officials and law enforcement to
immediately recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous people ..."

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

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Monday, November 26, 2012 1:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
I love hummingbird moths! A lot of people don't know what they are and get all confused when they spot one. Then they call up the all-night flying saucer show and ask if they're aliens.
{/B]

We always called them "Sphinx moths".

Do penguins count as Cryptid??

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM

Probably only some exotic sub-species, six feet tall or four-winged, or possessed of fangs with which to fend off the odd predatory shark...

bun

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Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:39 PM

I think the most memorable experience with a winged critter I will always remember was a Lunar Moth that took refuge on my kitchen window during a thunderstorm, I have never seen one since and after looking this one up I doubt I will ever seeone THAT BIG again. Also, I hear that some species of moths and butterfly can have a wingspan almost a foot in length. I could see them plotting revenge on neighborhood cats, for some reason...

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Tuesday, November 27, 2012 9:17 PM

the eloquent Mike Rugg on Who/What are Bigfoots &
controversy over the upcoming Ketchum DNA report

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:42 PM

Terrific video, OONJERAH! I wish we had Rugg's opinion of Siberian Almas, who seem from some accounts, to be nearly human.
I have friends and family in the Cruz - - must ask what they've seen or heard, if anything.
If anything comes of the DNA testing I think it will be the first. To the best of my recollection, previous testing has indicated everything from "not even hair, but vegetable fibers" to "deer hair."
If these creatures do exist, they need to be protected from dingbats who might blow them away in order to prove their existence, the way explorers did at the turn of the last century.

bun

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:57 PM

Turn of the last century nothin'- I wish people would stop blowing away the albino deer just 'cause they are different...

"Oh look Fred- that one's extra purty! Let's kill it!" I don't EVEN get that... I guess to some people anything that moves is fair game but DAMN they suck...

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:24 PM

The Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy (TBRC) is, even as
I write this, organising for their next, well-armed, Bigfoot
hunt. Their position, which agrees with many, is the truth
of BF's existence will never be settled without a Bigfoot
body ... I dunno if anyone has ever told them about tran-
quilizer darts.

My opinion agrees with Native American: Bigfoot is primarily
human. So to hunt & kill one would be murder.

BRB

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