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Hillary's Power - A Fable
Saturday, July 9, 2016 2:16 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Saturday, July 9, 2016 2:33 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, July 9, 2016 3:35 AM
Saturday, July 9, 2016 3:50 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Just think, we are witnessing history in our lifetime. A woman so slippery, so powerful that she would get the FBI Director to lie for her. Both he and AG Lynch would stake their reputations and legacies just to appease her. What hold does she have over them. What relative of theirs does she have trussed up in her closet that they would put their hands in the fire for her? She lies. That's what everyone says, yet not one piece of proof has convicted her; only rumors and innuendo. But maybe, just maybe this time she has slipped up and gone done it. Fucked up her chances to become POTUS. Oh, I don't think she's going to get away with it this time. Polish up the silverware Maude, the Trumps are coming to the White House. Clean living and prosperity await every single American; Blacks, Jews, Hispanics and Native Americans rejoice for your day is at hand. Not to mention the lovely, lovely Muslims that Donald loves so much. Finally, a leader worth his weight in GOLD, Trump GOLD! The House republicans, stalwarts of American justice and fair play, will get to the bottom of this outrage - the non-indictment. After all, it's been almost 90 years since a person has been charged, tried, convicted and sentenced because of mishandling government documents. But that case involved espionage. I did not get to see the hearing, but I did get to see some highlights...very interesting. Here's a NY Times article on that very topic, dated July 7: http://www.nytimes.com/live/james-comey-testifies-before-congress/ Comey was steadfast in the face of allegations and innuendo hurled at him from committee members. They nearly accused him of accepting a bribe (a la Trump). Really disgusting and mudslinging accusations, fuck, and this after praising him as he conducted the investigations. These guys were wringing their hands and twirling their mustaches as you could almost hear them sneering in the background "she's gonna get hers." They counted their chickens before they hatched, but all they got was egg on their face. Hence the hearing. Rep. Gowdy grilled Comey, but asked mainly yes or no questions: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/07/rep-trey-gowdy-rips-into-fbi-director-james-comey-on-hillary-clintons-intent.html The above was edited to not include any testimony on the part of Comey aside from answering the "yes or no" questions, an prosecuting attorney trick so as not to reveal too much testimony that may favor the suspected law breaker. But Comey has a checkered history as FBI director over the last 2 presidents. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/21/james-comey-fbi-director-bush-history Wire-tapping, water boarding, among the Top 10 hits of neocon behavior. How did this guy get such a reputation as being an upright citizen? Or am I mistaken and woefully ignorant. Still though, you gotta wonder why this man would defy Congress and popular belief, that Clinton is innocent until proven guilty. She was not sworn in to give testimony during her much-publicized interview with the Fumbling Bumbling Idiots. Flanagan Banagan & Instavitch Inc. Could the FBI be considered competent in this day and age? Well, the other fumbling idiots are now up to bat. The House republicans, let's see if they could turn up something that will stick, even if they have to lie, cheat and steal to get their man....Hillary. Based on their track record, the Benghazi fiasco, I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe they should bring in Colin Powell to see how he did it. Maybe that will give them some insight. After all, he got away with it. SGG
Saturday, July 9, 2016 7:29 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:If there's proof of her guilt, it will be revealed at some point
Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: "I did not... *pause for effect*... have sexual relations with those emails...."
Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The text of the post placed outside of RWED but blindly referenced in this thread OP, for those who do not desire to confuse RWED with other: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Just think, we are witnessing history in our lifetime. A woman so slippery, so powerful that she would get the FBI Director to lie for her. Both he and AG Lynch would stake their reputations and legacies just to appease her. What hold does she have over them. What relative of theirs does she have trussed up in her closet that they would put their hands in the fire for her? She lies. That's what everyone says, yet not one piece of proof has convicted her; only rumors and innuendo. But maybe, just maybe this time she has slipped up and gone done it. Fucked up her chances to become POTUS. Oh, I don't think she's going to get away with it this time. Polish up the silverware Maude, the Trumps are coming to the White House. Clean living and prosperity await every single American; Blacks, Jews, Hispanics and Native Americans rejoice for your day is at hand. Not to mention the lovely, lovely Muslims that Donald loves so much. Finally, a leader worth his weight in GOLD, Trump GOLD! The House republicans, stalwarts of American justice and fair play, will get to the bottom of this outrage - the non-indictment. After all, it's been almost 90 years since a person has been charged, tried, convicted and sentenced because of mishandling government documents. But that case involved espionage. I did not get to see the hearing, but I did get to see some highlights...very interesting. Here's a NY Times article on that very topic, dated July 7: http://www.nytimes.com/live/james-comey-testifies-before-congress/ Comey was steadfast in the face of allegations and innuendo hurled at him from committee members. They nearly accused him of accepting a bribe (a la Trump). Really disgusting and mudslinging accusations, fuck, and this after praising him as he conducted the investigations. These guys were wringing their hands and twirling their mustaches as you could almost hear them sneering in the background "she's gonna get hers." They counted their chickens before they hatched, but all they got was egg on their face. Hence the hearing. Rep. Gowdy grilled Comey, but asked mainly yes or no questions: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/07/rep-trey-gowdy-rips-into-fbi-director-james-comey-on-hillary-clintons-intent.html The above was edited to not include any testimony on the part of Comey aside from answering the "yes or no" questions, an prosecuting attorney trick so as not to reveal too much testimony that may favor the suspected law breaker. But Comey has a checkered history as FBI director over the last 2 presidents. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/21/james-comey-fbi-director-bush-history Wire-tapping, water boarding, among the Top 10 hits of neocon behavior. How did this guy get such a reputation as being an upright citizen? Or am I mistaken and woefully ignorant. Still though, you gotta wonder why this man would defy Congress and popular belief, that Clinton is innocent until proven guilty. She was not sworn in to give testimony during her much-publicized interview with the Fumbling Bumbling Idiots. Flanagan Banagan & Instavitch Inc. Could the FBI be considered competent in this day and age? Well, the other fumbling idiots are now up to bat. The House republicans, let's see if they could turn up something that will stick, even if they have to lie, cheat and steal to get their man....Hillary. Based on their track record, the Benghazi fiasco, I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe they should bring in Colin Powell to see how he did it. Maybe that will give them some insight. After all, he got away with it. SGG And the RWED pre-dating the above referenced thread: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60663
Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:If there's proof of her guilt, it will be revealed at some point The evidence of her guilt has already been revealed. You read it right here. Why are you depending on someone else to hand you the conclusions that you "should" be reaching? Use the common sense that you were born with. Read what she said, and compare it to what she did. Pretend you're on a jury, do a little research, and reach your own conclusions. -------------- I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
Sunday, July 10, 2016 1:09 AM
Sunday, July 10, 2016 1:49 AM
Quote:If there's proof of her guilt, it will be revealed at some point- SGG The evidence of her guilt has already been revealed. You read it right here. Why are you depending on someone else to hand you the conclusions that you "should" be reaching? Use the common sense that you were born with. Read what she said, and compare it to what she did. Pretend you're on a jury, do a little research, and reach your own conclusions.- SIGNY Perhaps I mis-spoke. Do they, anyone, have evidence to arrest, prosecute and convict. Because, if they did, they The F-fucking B.I. would have recommended pursuing prosecution.- SGG
Quote:Please open your eyes and read my post carefully. It is my take on the proceedings.-SGG
Quote:Comey did NOT recommend pursuing prosecution. That, and ONLY that is what I was commenting on. It is not what YOU (the general you) what you think is going on, but what these folks in power positions actually do. The action or non-action of Congress, the FBI, the AG, the Justice Dept. And, once again, do not tell me what to do or think. If you don't agree with me FINE! I don't tell you that YOU SHOULD think as I do, or agree. I contribute my thoughts.......MY THOUGHTS, NOT YOURS or anyone else's. If I agree, I say so. BUT I NEVER TELL ANYONE WHAT TO THINK OR SAY.
Quote:The day that I say what someone tells me to say, is the day I kill myself. Is that plain enough language for you. It is unbelievable to me that on this website, celebrating the freedom of spirit that is Firefly that anyone would have the unmitigated gall to presume telling a fellow human being what to say or think. Make your argument, call me dumb, fine. I welcome free debate and discussion, but....well, I've said my piece.
Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:If there's proof of her guilt, it will be revealed at some point- SGG The evidence of her guilt has already been revealed. You read it right here. Why are you depending on someone else to hand you the conclusions that you "should" be reaching? Use the common sense that you were born with. Read what she said, and compare it to what she did. Pretend you're on a jury, do a little research, and reach your own conclusions.- SIGNY Perhaps I mis-spoke. Do they, anyone, have evidence to arrest, prosecute and convict. Because, if they did, they The F-fucking B.I. would have recommended pursuing prosecution.- SGG And you know this... how? Been sitting in on discussions with Comey that we don't know about? Or is this just an assumption on your part? Quote:Please open your eyes and read my post carefully. It is my take on the proceedings.-SGG Well, maybe it's your assumption about the FBI. Quote:Comey did NOT recommend pursuing prosecution. That, and ONLY that is what I was commenting on. It is not what YOU (the general you) what you think is going on, but what these folks in power positions actually do. The action or non-action of Congress, the FBI, the AG, the Justice Dept. And, once again, do not tell me what to do or think. If you don't agree with me FINE! I don't tell you that YOU SHOULD think as I do, or agree. I contribute my thoughts.......MY THOUGHTS, NOT YOURS or anyone else's. If I agree, I say so. BUT I NEVER TELL ANYONE WHAT TO THINK OR SAY. SGG, you puzzle me. If this is about my post, all I said was: Think for yourself.. And now your saying No I won't! I dunno, I misunderstand you 99% of the time. Quote:The day that I say what someone tells me to say, is the day I kill myself. Is that plain enough language for you. It is unbelievable to me that on this website, celebrating the freedom of spirit that is Firefly that anyone would have the unmitigated gall to presume telling a fellow human being what to say or think. Make your argument, call me dumb, fine. I welcome free debate and discussion, but....well, I've said my piece. Again .... huh???? I can understand that you would be offended by my insinuation that you're not thinking for yourself. Ok, you feel that you're an independent thinker, and that you already do. Got it! But my point was Think for yourself and you end your post with No I won't! And I will never tell anyone what to think!. What's going on here?
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