TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it! by SHINYGOODGUY

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Please, not the Horror-Clown!

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:02 AM

Serioiusly Second.

I'm going to masturbate to Fantasies of Britney Spears when She was 20 years old and Perfect.

Not because She was young and stupid back then, but because She was Young and Perfeckt back then and I would have done anything She asked. She should have been the first Madame President, no joke.

Men are particularly easy to manipulate. Especially White Males.

Every Woman in the RWED seems to want to deny that fact and/or work entirely against it, for better or for worse.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:30 AM

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What Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchy can teach us about a President Trump
http://qz.com/834722/trump-business-conflicts-of-interest-look-similar
-to-ukrainian-president-petro-poroshenko/

President-elect Donald Trump looks set to enter the White House with arguably the biggest array of conflicts of interest of any US president.

For just one example, take the case of Deutsche Bank. Trump’s lender of last resort has loaned him $364 million in mortgages in the past few years, according to The Intercept, plus $2.5 billion to his affiliated businesses and a further $1 billion in loan guarantees. And how are Deutsche’s current relations with Washington? Oh yeah, the government fined the bank $14 billion in September, according to the Wall Street Journal, to settle a series of investigations into the bank’s use of mortgage-backed securities during the financial crisis.

“There will be times when an action taken on behalf of the US can enrich Trump Enterprises, even as it hurts other American interests. What will he do?” It’s not just a matter of managing his old friends, but his assets themselves. Unlike most other senior officials, the president and vice president have no legal obligation to put their assets in a blind trust. Trump has promised to do so, but there’s a wee problem there: the blind trust, he says, will be run by his children. At the head is likely to be his daughter Ivanka, who, along with her husband Jared Kushner, was one of Trump’s lead advisers throughout the campaign. Can we really expect Trump and his favorite child to never discuss the business on which they have spent years working together? Is it really a “blind” trust if you can work out what’s going on just by hearing a loose word from your daughter? Norman Ornstein, a political scientist and senior fellow at the nonpartisan American Enterprise Institute think tank, isn’t convinced.

“The idea that Trump will place his business holdings in the hands of his children is to me just frightening,” Ornstein wrote in an email. “There will be times when an action taken on behalf of the US can enrich Trump Enterprises, even as it hurts other American interests. What will he do?”

We contacted the Trump campaign to ask, but they didn’t reply to an emailed request for comment as of publication.

For answers to how this might play out, there’s a recent global precedent in Ukraine. Oligarch Petro Poroshenko was elected president there in 2014 while similarly promising to hide his assets from his sight and sell his main business, Roshen Confectionary Corporation, as soon as he could. However, he is yet to sell off Roshen, and his blind trust is currently run by the corporation’s long-time CEO Vyacheslav Moskalevsky, says Anders Aslund, a leading Ukraine expert and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council think tank. “It’s a completely hopeless situation,” he says.

Russian president Vladimir Putin has been using the situation to manipulate the Ukrainian leader, Aslund claims. Aslund’s sources in Ukraine tell him the two have discussed Poroshenko’s businesses in private conversations: “Poroshenko is kept very much in line by the Kremlin,” he says. In October, Putin even tauntingly mentioned a factory Poroshenko owns in Russia, telling a conference that “there are some problems with the non-payment of VAT.”

“Poroshenko is kept very much in line by the Kremlin.” Poroshenko was elected on an anti-corruption platform that prided itself on hiring foreign experts to clean up the country, but this year his administration has seen embarrassing, high profile resignations by officials frustrated with corruption slowing down their attempts at reform. In February, Poroshenko’s Lithuanian-born technocratic economy minister resigned over the entrenched graft he was facing, health minister Alexander Kvitashvili stepped down in July, and the bombastic former president of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili quit as governor of one of Ukraine’s most important regions in November. Announcing his resignation, Saakashvili pointedly asked his onetime friend Poroshenko, “How much can you lie and cheat?”

In the midst of all that, the Panama Papers made public on May 9 revealed that, while war raged in eastern Ukraine only three months after Poroshenko was elected in 2014, he was quietly setting up a secret offshore company in the British Virgin Islands.

So, what lessons can we take for Trump’s presidency? First, we need complete transparency, beginning with Trump releasing his tax returns and announcing any assets he may not have declared on his FEC and SEC filings. Second, his assets should be put in a blind trust run by a third party to block off exactly the distractions Poroshenko faced while his country was at war. That’s not an unprecedented demand: Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and both Bushes did so.

Trump is involved in businesses in over 500 companies, in countries like China, the UAE and Saudi Arabia—all of which have very complex relations with the US. There’s also strong evidence that he has at least received financing from Russian investors, according to the Washington Post, and he has tried a number of times to invest in property there. Putin is unlikely to be able to bully Trump the way he allegedly does Poroshenko, but Aslund says “there is a straightforward bribery risk” when the future president ends up in diplomatic negotiations with countries where he has assets, or where his children running his business are trying to invest. And Putin, a wily former KGB agent, is likely to pull every lever he has at his disposal to try to manipulate Trump.

In addition, there’s little to stop Trump’s children leveraging his name to do deals with reprehensible regimes, as former Federal Election commission chair Trevor Potter has pointed out. “We are faced with the possibility that a son or daughter of the president will turn up in Moscow or Uzbekistan or somewhere else negotiating a deal on a new property that will bear the name of the president, and the full knowledge that the president really is an owner of the company. That presents problems of a dimension we have never seen before,” Potter said in September, according to the Post.

“Trump is a liar, he thinks he’s unaccountable, he can do what he wants—these are Ukraine’s elites since 1991.” The final message to take from Ukraine is the value of civil society, says Taras Kuzio, a senior fellow at the Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies. Ukrainians have learned to hold their elites to account where the justice system has failed, and have overturned two corrupt governments in revolutions over the last 12 years. They keep themselves intensely well-informed on politics: “You ask any taxi driver in Kyiv, who stole what, where, and when and he’ll tell you,” Kuzio says. “American civil society could learn a lot from Ukraine because they’ve had to deal with Trump-like characters a lot longer than America has had to; people lie to them all the time. Trump is a liar, he thinks he’s unaccountable, he can do what he wants—these are Ukraine’s elites since 1991.”

If American citizens, NGOs, journalists and communities fail to step up, the outcome could get bleaker and bleaker, says Ornstein: “What now? The word kleptocracy comes to mind,” he wrote.

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:24 PM

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Director Neill Blomkamp showed off parodies of Trump’s plane and presidential motorcade

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:34 PM

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Trump doesn't hate lobbyists all that much after all. That whole "Drain the Swamp" thing was just red meat for the rubes. The Associated Press reports that far from hating lobbyists, Trump absolutely adores them. Here's the Trump transition team:
http://bigstory.ap.org/7f2605f079334fddb0dfb341010b68ea

The behind-the-scenes transition operation is being run by Ron Nichol, a senior partner at The Boston Group, a management consulting firm where 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney launched his business career.

Ken Blackwell...senior fellow at the Family Research Council...

Veteran agribusiness lobbyist Michael Torrey...

Energy industry lobbyist Mike McKenna...

David Bernhardt...represents mining companies seeking to use resources on federal lands...

Lobbyist Steven Hart, who focuses on tax and employee benefits, is leading the transition team for the Labor Department.

Cindy Hayden...top lobbyist for Altria, the parent company of cigarette-maker Philip Morris...Homeland Security Department.

Jeff Eisenach, a consultant and former lobbyist...Federal Communications Commission....

Michael Korbey...former lobbyist who led President George W. Bush's effort to privatize America's retirement system....

Shirley Ybarra...champion of "public-private partnerships" to build toll roads and bridges....

Myron Ebell...man-made global warming is a hoax...

David Malpass...Bear Stearns' chief economist...

Dan DiMicco...former chief executive of steel company NUCOR and a board member at Duke Energy...

Former Rep. Mike Rogers...serves on boards for consulting firms IronNet Cybersecurity and Next Century Corp.

Kevin O'Connor...partner at the law firm of close Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani...

Jim Carafano...Heritage Foundation's vice president for Foreign and Defense Policy Studies...

retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg...chief operating officer for Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq...

Mira Ricardel...vice president of business development for Boeing Strategic Missile & Defense Systems.

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Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:36 AM

And the TRUTH shall set you FREE!

Trump - the man that built ISIS and is the only one that knows how to defeat them.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Islamist extremists welcome Trump's victory
by Kareem Shaheen Thursday 10 November 2016 15.45 EST

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/islamic-extremists-welcome-don
ald-trump-victory

Abdullah al-Muhaisny, a key authority among radical circles in Syria, says Trump presidency will sow division and expose west’s hatred of Muslims

Jihadis have welcomed Donald Trump’s surprise victory in the American presidential race, saying his election would sow greater division and expose what they described as the hatred and racism of the west towards Muslims.

The endorsement of the election result by extreme Islamist figures highlighted fears that Trump’s divisive rhetoric and call to ban Muslims from entering the US could empower radicals who have argued that the west seeks Islam’s destruction and is at war with its adherents.

The idea has been central to Islamic State propaganda – at its height the terror group called on Muslims to abandon life abroad and flock to the territories it controls or risk indignity and oppression in western societies.

“Trump’s victory is an important step towards the victory of the Sunnis,” said Abdullah al-Muhaisny, a key authority among radical circles in Syria, who is believed by the US to be in league with al-Qaida.

“We have long tried to explain that the fight is not against terrorism, but against the Sunnis, and the mujahideen are just the frontline,” he added in a series of tweets on Thursday. “The American strategy will not change much, what has changed is that the war is open and not secret, and that is a good thing.”

Muhaisny said Trump’s victory will lay the groundwork for “bloody battles and great chaos,” saying he hoped the president-elect’s strategy of “exclusion and crushing opponents” will sow greater division in America.

Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, a key intellectual figure in al-Qaida who once shared a cell with Isis founder Abu Mus’ab al-Zarqawi, said he hoped Trump’s election would herald America’s ruin.

“Trump reveals the real mentality of the Americans and their racism towards Muslims and Arabs and everything,” he said in a tweet. “He only reveals what his predecessors have kept hidden.”

Rita Katz, the director of Site Intelligence, an organisation that tracks jihadi chatter on social media and online forums, said militants were predicting that Trump’s election would unite the ranks of jihadis and expose latent hatred towards Muslims.

Katz tweeted: “Pro-#ISIS & #Jihadis say they “prefer” #Trump to #Clinton because he is “telling Muslims what half of America thinks of them.”

Hamza Caribi, who runs a Twitter account affiliated with Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, the former al-Qaida wing in Syria, said Trump proved the failure of democracy. “From this day forward we will no longer need videos explaining the west’s plots,” he said. “We will only need to retweet what Trump says.”

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Monday, November 14, 2016 4:59 AM

Really!? I wouldn't throw around a word like "LOCKSTEP" too loosely, too much like GOOSESTEP. Speaking of Anti-American, is it really "draining the swamp" or is it recruiting a better version of muck-masters.

Careful, your rotting corpse-ified flesh-eating husk of the "republican" party is showing.

SGG

TUCK FRUMP!

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
NOW THAT TRUMP IS PRESIDENT

the immediate threat of neo-CON run government, spy agencies and military working in lockstep is gone. Not for good, because the threat won't be gone until the neo-CONS are purged, but there won't be a critical mass of them brought together in the near future.

NOW is the time for progressives and democratic socialists, environmentalists and freedom-lovers, to come together and leave the rotting husk of the 'democratic' party behind.

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Monday, November 14, 2016 5:53 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

SGG: You are no longer addressing anything real, if you ever did. I suspect that - like SIX - you're posting drunk, and addressing your own demons more than anything else. My VERY FIRST REPLY to you was ...

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SHINY, whatever point you're trying to make is muddled by your attempt at humor/sarcasm. You'll have to try again.

and it hasn't changed since. When you start talking about reality, I'll be happy to have a discussion with you.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Monday, November 14, 2016 10:27 AM

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Spotted at the protests in Los Angeles
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefly/comments/5cp7en/spotted_at_the_protes
ts_in_los_angeles_today/

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Monday, November 14, 2016 1:08 PM

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President Trump and the Trump Organization are the biggest conflict of interest in US history. Trump is mixing business and government in a way that will allow for massive corruption.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13608960/donald-trump-confl
icts-of-interest-corruption

Trump’s financial disclosures won’t reveal anything

The one thing Trump, like his predecessors in the White House, is required by law to do is disclose his assets on an annual basis. The idea here is that if Obama were to buy a bunch of Google stock and then make a bunch of regulatory decisions that favor Google, the public would at least know about it. Sunshine, many people feel, is the best disinfectant.

This does not at all work in Trump’s case, as you will swiftly see if you read the financial disclosure forms he filed during the campaign.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/TrumpFinancialDisclos
ure20150722.pdf

A huge share of it simply consists of listing the names of LLCs and other partnerships that Trump wholly or partially owns, paired with an addendum clarifying what share of the LLC is Trump’s and estimating its value. Now, presumably DT Dubai II Golf Manager LLC is the name of an entity that owns the Trump-branded golf course in Dubai, while DT Marks Qatar LLC is an ownership vehicle for some kind of name-licensing deal in Qatar.

But names are just names. If Trump wants to establish a holding company that buys construction companies that are about to get infrastructure contracts from the American government, he can call it whatever he wants. Ivanka and Eric can have DT Marks Qatar LLC buy or sell stock in whatever companies they like, tell Dad about it, and have him make policy accordingly, and all Trump’s financial disclosure forms will ever report is that he owns a company called DT Marks Qatar LLC. Any way you look at it, the Trump Organization will be fully informed of the business ramifications of public policy and the Trump White House fully informed of the state of the Trump organization’s business holdings.

The public will be left entirely in the dark. So every policy move Trump makes can be used to enrich himself and his family personally with no legal obligation for anyone outside the family to know about it.

Only congressional Republicans can stop this

The current setup in which Trump owns a series of opaque holding companies operationally controlled by heirs who are also close political advisers is a looming corruption disaster. It allows Trump and his family to use their influence over the policy process to enrich themselves to an essentially unlimited degree with no public disclosure whatsoever.

Republican Party elected officials did not indicate much discomfort over this situation during the 2016 campaign, even while at times expressing varying levels of concern about Trump’s racist remarks and boasts about sexual assault.

But ultimately in America’s system of checks and balances, the responsibility for preventing the fleecing of America lies with Congress. And while the GOP is set to hold a 52-48 majority in the Senate come January, that doesn’t have to be construed as a personal mandate for Trump to fleece the country. Susan Collins, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, Ben Sasse, Rob Portman, Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, Cory Gardner, and Dan Sullivan all ended the campaign saying that one or another of Trump’s indiscretions made them unable to vote for him. Pat Toomey, Mike Lee, and Dean Heller were profoundly ambiguous down to the end.

Marco Rubio, who did vote for Trump, also warned at one point that he is a “con artist” and declined to withdraw the accusation even while endorsing the GOP nominee. Ted Cruz, who also came around to voting for Trump, called him both “utterly amoral” and a “pathological liar.”

However these various senators ended up coming down on the 2016 election, the point is that they all expressed considerable doubts about the idea that Trump should simply be allowed to wield unchecked power. And indeed, whatever it is that Trump’s own core supporters are hoping will happen during his presidency, Trump wielding power so as to personally enrich himself probably isn’t high on the list.

The solution to the problem is both unlikely and simple. A critical margin of the Republican senators who expressed grave doubts about Trump need to stand up for those doubts and insist that he deconflict himself in a serious way. If he refuses to do so, they must refuse to confirm his appointees to key agencies that pose conflicts of interest. Waiting until after he puts a team in place, hoping for the best, and then professing shock and outrage as leaks and investigative journalism begin to unravel massive scandals is bad for the country.

Trump has humbled and humiliated rival GOP leaders many times over the past 18 months. But the fact is that senators have independent electoral mandates, independent political authority, and considerable practical leverage at the start of a new administration. They need to use it.

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Monday, November 14, 2016 1:16 PM

THGRRI

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Just OOC, do you call yourself "SECOND" because your opinions are second-hand? Or because they're second-rate? = SIGNY

Huh? That's not even a little funny or even a bit creative - disappointing. Come on Hillary, you can do better! =GSTRING

Since when did personal attacks require creativity or even accuracy? I mean, hell, you and THUGR don't take any prizes for either one! And it's not like you didn't try enough times!

Can dish it out, can't take it. What a crybaby.

Huh? I always thought it meant SECOND to none.

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Russia trolls get contract extension
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60719

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Monday, November 14, 2016 1:55 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

"SECOND TO NONE" in what category? Self-delusion? Lying? Posting fact-free cartoons? Posting other people's opinions without being able to discuss them?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Monday, November 14, 2016 2:32 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"SECOND TO NONE" in what category? Self-delusion? Lying? Posting fact-free cartoons? Posting other people's opinions without being able to discuss them?

Nobody wants to discuss your opinions because they don't want to join your religion. You're a Jehovah's Witness handing out magazines at the door of a supermarket. To stop and show any interest with the Witness is to have your ears talked off.

You're a relentlessly opinionated writer giving away your product to whoever will stop and take a magazine. Don’t you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice, your repetition of the same ideas, in same tone, in every comment of yours? Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs?

None of Trump’s glory reflexes light upon you. You’re not even a remora attached to the fat belly of that Great White Republican Shark, eating scrapes leftover from his kills. Should Trump notice you, he will eat you, too. Figurative, not literally.

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Monday, November 14, 2016 4:53 PM

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Donald Trump Parody Results in Clockwork Orange Copyright Suit

A YouTube parody which hoped to provide a satirical take on Donald Trump's presidential campaign has ended in a lawsuit. Hugh Atkin portrayed elements of Trump's efforts in the style of and alongside images from A Clockwork Orange. Now the Australian is getting sued in the United States for copyright infringement.

Three weeks ago, Australian Hugh Atkin received a notification from YouTube, advising that a video he’d created had received a copyright strike.

At the time, Atkin told TorrentFreak that the video, titled ‘A Clockwork Trump vs. A Trumpwork Orange’, was intended as a parody.

“The video contains a parody of the trailer for ‘A Clockwork Orange’ featuring Donald Trump and compares it, side-by-side, with the original trailer for ‘A Clockwork Orange’,” he told TF.

“It was meant to be a satirical take on the alternately funny/violent/scary/profane/authoritarian nature of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.”
https://torrentfreak.com/donald-trump-parody-results-in-clockwork-oran
ge-copyright-suit-161114/

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Monday, November 14, 2016 7:25 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

As you so succinctly noted about yourself, Nobody wants to discuss your opinions, not even you. You're a relentlessly opinionated writer who wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the ass. Don’t you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice, your repetition of the same drivel, in same tone, in every comment of yours? Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs?

OK!

Now that we're done slagging each other - do you have any relevant responses to Signy's post - that contain logic and facts? Can you discuss ANYTHING with ANYONE like a rational adult?

Or is this the one and only real you? (My god what it must be like to be stuck inside your head with you.)

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:15 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

My god what it must be like to be stuck inside Pence's head!

Vice President-elect Mike Pence is going to court to shield a single email from public scrutiny.

Maybe keeping emails private isn't so bad after all? Pence’s office declined to comment.

Pence is seeking to keep secret the contents of an email relating to Indiana’s participation in a lawsuit to block Obama’s executive actions on immigration, an Indianapolis Star article revealed Monday, What's Mike Pence hiding in his emails?
www.indystar.com/story/news/2016/11/14/whats-mike-pence-hiding-his-ema
ils/92839560/

Pence’s administration brought in an outside law firm to join the litigation, which was spearheaded by Texas Gov. Greg Abbot. The move prompted one Indianapolis lawyer to request documents related to the decision to bring in outside counsel.

Per the article: “Pence produced the documents in the request ‘but those documents included substantial redaction,’ according to court documents. The 57-page response also included an email that Daniel Hodge, Abbott's chief of staff, sent to 30 recipients in various states asking them to join the lawsuit against Obama. The message included an attached white paper, but the governor failed to produce the document, according to court records. After a yearlong legal process, the Superior Court held that the issue was not a matter for the courts to decide, citing an Indiana Supreme Court case decided just days before.”

The decision was appealed, and the Indiana Court of Appeals is set to hear oral arguments in Indianapolis on Nov. 21.

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 AM

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Bank stocks extended their surge toward eight-year highs as analysts expect Donald Trump’s victory and the Republican sweep of Congress to provide a “goldilocks” scenario for the sector. It must be good for the average Trump voter to make banking more profitable, is it not? Money will trickle down from the rentier class to the middle class, closing the gap in wealth and income, right? That is the Standard Republican Talking Point, is it not? You will be hearing it repeated often by the GOP for the next 8 years, so it must be true.

www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-win-and-republican-sweep-a-goldilocks-
scenario-for-bank-stocks-2016-11-14

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:35 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Nobody wants to discuss your opinions because they don't want to join your religion.= GSTRING

YOU don't want to discuss your own opinions because YOU have religion. In fact, you don't seem even CAPABLE of discussing your own opinion, and you- in particular- seem stuck in "personal attack" mode, as you have just demonstrated again ... in this third thread, in two short days.

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You're a relentlessly opinionated writer ... Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs? = GSTRING

The person with "beliefs" is YOU, son. And the reason why I know that you have "beliefs" is because you're incapable of subjecting them to examination, which is why you can't even discuss them.

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None of Trump’s glory reflexes light upon you.= GSTRING

Do you think I'm doing this for "glory"? Related to Trump?

Wow, I can't imagine the mind that produced such an absurdity. I don't even LIKE Trump .... I was voting on only three issues, and for the remainder of Trump's proposals I'm probably in the opposite camp.

I think the thing that chaps your ass is that YOU WERE WRONG. Your precious beliefs, formed and maintained by constantly referring to "sources" that agree with you, have led to painfully faulty expectations.

And, I'm going to point out that ONCE AGAIN you have nothing to say ON THE TOPIC. If you stopped posting personal attacks, you would have NOTHING TO POST AT ALL. Basically, you drag your butt-hurt feelings into every thread and take them out on me.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:12 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

If you stopped posting personal attacks, you would have NOTHING TO POST AT ALL. Basically, you drag your butt-hurt feelings into every thread and take them out on me.

Your soul is too sensitive for the real world. Take a mental health break and return next year, after the Inauguration. By then we will know for certain if John Bolton is in the Trump administration.

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The dark comedy that will all too soon officially become the Trump administration is still in previews, but already we're learning that the cosmic joke is on every American who believed whatever the man we must call “president-elect” said:

Trump May Name Iraq War Propagandist John Bolton As Top US Diplomat

www.nationalmemo.com/trump-name-iraq-war-propagandist-bolton-top-us-di
plomat/

No need to be concerned because Bolton has not been appointed. Yet. It is only a credible rumor. There is plenty of time for an anti-Bolton, the opposite of Bolton, to be discovered somewhere in the GOP to be Trump's choice. Although why wouldn't Trump go with a winner with a familiar brandname?

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:26 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Your soul is too sensitive for the real world.

I don't like assholes and bullies, SECOND. What about you?

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The dark comedy that will all too soon officially become the Trump administration is still in previews, but already we're learning that the cosmic joke is on every American who believed whatever the man we must call “president-elect” said /... Trump may appoint Bolton

The various appointments, and whether they're seen as "successes" or "failures" based on Trump's own campaign promises, belong, I suppose, in the "Succeed" or "fail" threads.

In retrospect, the two threads should have been combined because some actions could credibly be discussed as both "success" AND "fail". What do you think: Should I combine them now, before they each take a life of their own?

As always, I'm of the "goose sauce = gander sauce" opinion. I was just as quick to judge Obama by his appointments as I was to judge GWB by his, and so I'll be looking with great interest to see who Trump appoints. I can tell you that many Trump supporters are already disappointed with the appointment of Priebus as Chief of Staff, instead of Bannon who was an early Breibart supporter and who was chosen as chief strategist, but not knowing anything about either of these people I have no opinion on how that might reflect with MY three priorities.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:17 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Your soul is too sensitive for the real world.
I don't like assholes and bullies, SECOND. What about you?

Sticks and stones will break your bones, but words will never hurt you, Signym. Either relearn that childhood lesson or take a mental health break from posting until after the Inauguration of Your "Three Priorities".

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I can tell you that many Trump supporters are already disappointed with the appointment of Priebus as Chief of Staff, instead of Bannon who was an early Breibart supporter and who was chosen as chief strategist, but not knowing anything about either of these people I have no opinion on how that might reflect with MY three priorities.

Would it be too much work for you, Signym, to know a thing about these people? Just a rhetorical question, although you could probably know more about them than Trump did before he chose them. Trump delegates the mental work to others; he's more a salesman.

Bannon is not a simple "early Breitbart supporter". Bannon from March 2012 to August 2016 was executive chairman of Breitbart News LLC, the parent company of Breitbart. Under his leadership, Breitbart took a more alt-right and nationalistic approach towards its agenda.

The Anti-Defamation League decries Stephen Bannon as anti-semitic, while Newt Gingrich says Steve Bannon can't be anti-semitic since he worked in Finance And Hollywood. Such a difficult decision on who to believe.

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:39 AM

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To count as a Blind Trust, the Congressional Research Service says, Trump would need to transfer “control and management of private assets to an independent trustee who may not communicate information about the identity of the holdings in the trust” to him. In other words, let someone he doesn't know sell all his old assets and buy new ones for him without telling him what they are. Having his kids manage his properties fails both of these tests, especially when they're a part of his transition team.

I just got a note that Trump further undermines fake "blind trust" by seeking top secret clearance for his kids.

For the past 40 years, every president who has had anything other than the most vanilla of investment portfolios — Barack Obama, who had most of his money in Treasury bonds, fell into that category — has put their assets into a blind trust to prevent any kind of conflict of interest between what's good for the country and what's good for their retirement.

http://congressionalresearch.com/RS21656/document.php

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:34 PM

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 PM

Yanno what, Second?

I'm going to worry about Trump when he stops posting on Twitter.

Of course he didn't release his 1,200 page Tax Document to the public. Unlike any other president before him, he was a Billionaire who ran an insanely large business that likely takes an entire team of legal lawyers to keep up with on a daily basis.

He couldn't exactly go to H&R block and get a free tax return over the internet like you and I could.

I don't have the speech here, but he said this in more than one of his campaigns...

"I pay a lot of taxes. So much many more than most people. Every single thing my business does is taxed. The energy it takes to run my companies is taxed. I pay half of the obligation of every one of my tens of thousands of employees' share of SSI and Medicaid taxes. I pay my share of workman's comp insurance. I pay to ensure that OSHA and EPA regulations are met exceedingly. I pay sales taxes on any materials I buy to build things. I pay VAT taxes (when I'm working overseas at companies with a VAT tax)."

These aren't exact phrases he said, all, but many of them are word for word. I'm paraphrasing others because I know quite a bit about tax laws because my mind works that way even if I never got a college degree.

AGAIN.... I'm not saying that Trump is Jesus.

If he Fucks us, we have every right to call him out on fucking us.

I just don't see why he would.

He's done making money. It's boring to him.

Even if he does bad as a President, I'm sure he set all of his existing kids and grand kids and wives with enough to more than get by.

Outside of that, I believe that he is willing to roll the dice on the rest. He wants to be remembered. And unlike some disgruntled kid in HS who dons a trenchcoat with his friends and shoots everyone up before suicide by cop, I believe that Donald Trump just wants to be put in the books as somebody that the People Loved.

He wants to be one of those "Good Presidents" that people remember. Maybe not as great as George Washington or Abraham Lincoln, but he really is like Sally Field in waiting....... "You Like Me! You REALLY Like Me!!!!!"

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that at this point in Trump's life, money means very little to him.

He's still EXTREMELY VIBRANT for a man his age, but he sees the writing on the wall. Given his "Privilege" and the Privilege he passes to his children, he has NOTHING to gain by doing this.

Read a fucking book....

Even if anybody Old Rich were to take him semi-seriously, he's still West Egg.....

I'm done talking about this because I believe that those in the RWED that are trenched in the "Left" understand what I'm talking about when it comes to Trump.

They want to argue, but they can't because He embodies so many things They have always wanted, even though their insides are being ripped apart if they actually flip and believe it.

I'm not celebrating early and saying "I told you so, fuckers". I'm just saying that we need to all take a few breaths and see what happens next.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:36 AM

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He's done making money. It's boring to him.[\quote]

You're right, he is bored, but not about making gobs of cash. He's in it to prove he's just as good as his father, and to snub his nose at the "fuckers" who scoff him like: Buffet and Bloomberg, those "real" billionaires.

So what if he breaks a few laws and presidential protocol along the way.

SGG

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:41 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

So what if he breaks a few laws

Which laws?

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:45 AM

Bolton may be the only one left after Trump's son-in-law purged the "administration" of Christie's hand-picked cronies. Then we have a comedy of errors as they have totally ignored contacting a handful of Federal agencies for which posts must be appointed.

So far, so good.

I think our local "experts" will have to put a hold on the "I told you so's"

SGG

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:55 AM

Actually, upon researching the subject, it's more a conflict of interest that the president and vice-president are exempt, constitutionally speaking.

SGG

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So what if he breaks a few laws

Which laws?

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:18 AM

I was wondering about the legality of what Trump is trying to do, and, in another response, I spoke too soon. The president and vice-president are constitutionally exempt from conflicts of interest, still though it's tradition to create a blind trust so as not to have the appearance of any impropriety; using the government to obtain advantages in power and wealth.

Apparently, Trump's assets pose a far greater conflict of interest than that of the Clinton foundation.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13608960/donald-trum
p-conflicts-of-interest-corruption

"Trump is mixing business and government in a way that will allow for massive corruption."

(It's complicated)

Donald Trump ran for president promising to “drain the swamp” of corruption and self-dealing that he argued had taken root in Washington, DC. But not only has he immediately moved to pack his transition team with lobbyists and millionaires, his personal financial situation also poses a series of massive conflicts of interest and lays the groundwork for financial self-dealing on an essentially unprecedented level.
What’s more, Trump’s past behavior gives us a clue as to how he might take advantage of this opportunity. Federal Election Commission disclosures reveal that Trump’s campaign spent enormous quantities of its donors’ money on his businesses. Trump’s charitable foundation appears to have routinely spent money for Trump’s personal benefit in violation of the rules.

(This is going to be fun)

SGG

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Originally posted by second:
To count as a Blind Trust, the Congressional Research Service says, Trump would need to transfer “control and management of private assets to an independent trustee who may not communicate information about the identity of the holdings in the trust” to him. In other words, let someone he doesn't know sell all his old assets and buy new ones for him without telling him what they are. Having his kids manage his properties fails both of these tests, especially when they're a part of his transition team.

I just got a note that Trump further undermines fake "blind trust" by seeking top secret clearance for his kids.

For the past 40 years, every president who has had anything other than the most vanilla of investment portfolios — Barack Obama, who had most of his money in Treasury bonds, fell into that category — has put their assets into a blind trust to prevent any kind of conflict of interest between what's good for the country and what's good for their retirement.

http://congressionalresearch.com/RS21656/document.php

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:26 AM

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You're right, he is bored, but not about making gobs of cash. He's in it to prove he's just as good as his father, and to snub his nose at the "fuckers" who scoff him like: Buffet and Bloomberg, those "real" billionaires.

So what if he breaks a few laws and presidential protocol along the way.

And if he is guilty of ONLY that, how is he any different than any other person who ever held the office, EVER..... at least in our lifetimes?

Bloomberg did have his back, FYI, and Buffet still drives an awesome car from the 80s and lives in a small house, BTW.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:54 AM

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Thanks to Trump, the economy turned around in one week. One Week!

This kind of comically large impact is why you can’t take people at their word when they explain to you how they voted.

Trump’s message was that the economy was terrible, and Trump voters agreed with his message, but after he won, it is much better. In One Week!

If Trump starts saying in March that the economy is now fixed, Republicans will believe him.

Just 16% of Republicans said the economy was getting better in the week before the election, while 81% said it was getting worse. Since the election, 49% say it is getting better and 44% worse.
www.gallup.com/poll/197474/economic-confidence-surges-election.aspx

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:24 AM

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Trump billed the federal government $6 million for granting Secret Service agents the right to fly on his plane. The reason we know that is because it was a political campaign, so all the financial details were filed with the Federal Election Commission.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-business-campaign-trail-22
8500

With the campaign over, however, the plane just becomes part of Trump’s web of companies and the money he is funneling from the federal government into his pocket won’t be disclosed. What’s your level of confidence that he’ll decide not continue to do it? Trump is not taking his Presidential salary of $400,000. He will make that and more in tickets he sells to the Secret Service. The Trump children will continue flying the old Trump plane when they travel for business or pleasure. Each child has Secret Service protection.

Security travel costs for the Secret Service are not subject to disclosure.

So Trump personally pocketed $6 million in taxpayer cash in plain sight in the middle of a hotly contested presidential campaign. And not only did he win the election, he won the election by painting his opponent as corrupt. Now he will have the opportunity to rake in an unknown sum of additional money through the exact same route with no disclosure whatsoever.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:44 AM

I didn't notice, except when things where EXCEPTIONAL for some. Honestly, I just remember how Trump being voted in was 800 points down for the DOW and they actually shut down overnight trading. I wonder how many times they ever did that in history?

I own a house free and clear. My 125 per month with Property Taxes and Insurace doesn't care.

I made a literal TON off the market with good choices when times were good and not dependent on External Forces.

I'm glad I wasn't in the business now. Could you imagine being the "Gal" who instructed all of Her people to pull completely out on Nov 9th, after the 800pt DOW loss on the 9th?

Fuck you DOW. I'm "Housing" and living virtually Free. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:25 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I made a literal TON off the market with good choices when times were good and not dependent on External Forces.

Fuck you DOW.

Bill Gross made billions. He says about Trump:

"The Trumpian Fox has entered the Populist Henhouse, not so much by stealth but as a result of Middle America's misinterpretation of what will make America great again."

While Gross proclaimed global populism “on the march” and the “wave of the future,” he squelched the idea that Trump’s impending tenure in the White House is a win for the populist agenda. He scoffed at the notion that Trump’s policies will be positive for job growth and said instead they will be “damaging” to the prospects of both jobless and low-wage American workers.

Far from making America “great again,” Gross said, “his policies of greater defense and infrastructure spending combined with lower corporate taxes to invigorate the private sector continue to favor capital versus labor, markets versus wages, and is a continuation of the status quo.”

“Not having voted for either establishment party’s candidate, I write in amazed, almost amused bewilderment at what American voters have done to themselves,” said Gross.

Gross explained that the tax reform Republicans have promised is based on the idea that American corporations are taxed at 35%, the highest corporate rate in the world. In actuality, he said, the average tax rate for the S&P 500’s 50 largest corporations is 24%—which makes them among the world’s most lightly taxed. Cutting taxes only benefits corporate profits at the expense of the workers companies employ, he said.

He also suggested that a tax holiday for US corporations —-- the repatriation of foreign profits with little tax penalty -—- would not encourage companies to ramp up investment in the American economy. “The last time such a ‘pardon’ was put into law in 2004, no noticeable pickup in investment took place,” he said. “Of the $362 billion that earned a ‘tax holiday’, most went to dividends, corporate bonuses, and stock buybacks.”

“Both the Clinton Democrats and almost all Republicans represent the corporate status quo that favors markets versus wages; Wall Street versus Main Street.”

Instead, Gross favors solutions such as a “Keynsian/FDR job corps or a Kennedyesque AmeriCorps” that would put Americans to work, while soothing populist sentiments at the same time.

“Global populism is the wave of the future, but it has taken a wrong turn in America,” said Gross.

www.janus.com/insights/bill-gross-investment-outlook

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:44 PM

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You can’t watch this at work; and you can’t watch it if easily offended.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:14 PM

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Japanese Donald Trump Commercial

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:00 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Oh, thanks for letting me know. I was wondering.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Actually, upon researching the subject, it's more a conflict of interest that the president and vice-president are exempt, constitutionally speaking.

SGG

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So what if he breaks a few laws

Which laws?

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:14 AM

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There are 75 lawsuits against Trump. An astounding number of court battles—from Trump University suits to libel cases—will accompany Trump even as he moves into the White House.

Trump has been a party to some 4,000 lawsuits over the last 30 years—a uniquely large number of actions framed by detractors as a telling indicator of a life of crooked dealing, and by supporters as simply the cost of running an enormously successful business in America.

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/10/75-lawsuits-against-presiden
t-elect-trump.html
www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 5:13 AM

Since the election, 49% say it is getting better and 44% worse.
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That's because a "republican" won, but if it were to tank...Then, of course, it's Obama's fault. That's how that works.

An overreaction if ever I saw one.

SGG

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 5:14 AM

That was FUN and so on point.

SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Since the election, 49% say it is getting better and 44% worse.
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That's because a "republican" won, but if it were to tank...Then, of course, it's Obama's fault. That's how that works.

An overreaction if ever I saw one.

SGG

The non-reaction is odd to Trump's bending and breaking promises. A list from MarketWatch:

No, it seems he’s not going to cancel Obamacare on Day One.

He’s not going to build a wall along the entire Mexican border.

No, he’s not going to deport all the illegal immigrants.

He’s not going to stick it to Wall Street “elites” and big investment banks like Goldman Sachs. On the contrary, they’re already making out like bandits.

No, he’s not going to stick it to the Republican establishment either. He just made RNC boss Reince Priebus his chief of staff.

We can pretty much forget any pledge to wall off his financial interests. (Memo to fellow journalists: If Trump knows what is in his blind trust, it is not a blind trust)

And we can write-off Trump’s promise to release his tax returns when the “audit” is complete.

Oh, but it looks like privatizing Medicare might be on the table after all. Oops! Sorry seniors.

www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trumps-next-default-lies-dead-ahead-2
016-11-16

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:12 AM

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Four years ago, Rick Perry said in a debate that he wanted to eliminate three agencies of government, but he could only remember two. The third agency was the Department of Energy. Now he's being considered to lead that agency. Who says irony is dead?
www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-team-makes-overtures-to-democrats-as-trans
ition-push-ramps-up-1479343438

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:20 PM

THGRRI

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Nobody wants to discuss your opinions because they don't want to join your religion.= GSTRING
YOU don't want to discuss your own opinions because YOU have religion. In fact, you don't seem even CAPABLE of discussing your own opinion, and you- in particular- seem stuck in "personal attack" mode, as you have just demonstrated again ... in this third thread, in two short days.

Misattributed quote again. Second said that not G. Conclusion: proof that meaningful discussion not possible. Ideas, thoughts, facts do not connect.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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You're a relentlessly opinionated writer ... Don't you ever notice that you never convert anyone to your beliefs? = GSTRING
The person with "beliefs" is YOU, son. And the reason why I know that you have "beliefs" is because you're incapable of subjecting them to examination, which is why you can't even discuss them.

Misattributed quote again. Second said that not G. Conclusion: proof that meaningful discussion not possible. Ideas, thoughts, facts do not connect.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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None of Trump’s glory reflexes light upon you.= GSTRING
Do you think I'm doing this for "glory"? Related to Trump?

Misattributed quote again. Second said that not G. Conclusion: proof that meaningful discussion not possible. Ideas, thoughts, facts do not connect.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, I can't imagine the mind that produced such an absurdity. I don't even LIKE Trump .... I was voting on only three issues, and for the remainder of Trump's proposals I'm probably in the opposite camp.

I think the thing that chaps your ass is that YOU WERE WRONG. Your precious beliefs, formed and maintained by constantly referring to "sources" that agree with you, have led to painfully faulty expectations.

Incorrect conclusion. What chaps my ass are idiots who believed what Trump said and voted for him. You don't know me or my sources, so more lying, er, faulty presumption on your part.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, I'm going to point out that ONCE AGAIN you have nothing to say ON THE TOPIC. If you stopped posting personal attacks, you would have NOTHING TO POST AT ALL. Basically, you drag your butt-hurt feelings into every thread and take them out on me.

Thread topic misattributed. The thread topic is Trump, about whom I have said plenty.

Hey G. As you know, SIG's and 1kikis' postings' here resemble the fake news postings Facebook and Google are now looking for ways to stop. We and others here have been the keepers of the gate. Thread after thread we have exposed their bullshit by posting some facts and exposing them as trolls. It doesn't matter that they live in a world of their own. That they don't realize, anyone who follows the threads know they and their news sources are dishonest. It's just a part of their disease. It's also why trolls are depicted as ugly and antisocial.

____________________________________________

Russia trolls get contract extension
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60719

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The Senate will have to take a stand

Thus far, Trump has hired two people. One, Reince Priebus, is well-liked by Republicans but not really qualified to be chief of staff. The other, Steve Bannon, ran a website that trafficked in racism and anti-Semitism and before that was involved with a sleazy nasal spray business.

For his Cabinet and his independent regulatory agencies, Trump should be held to a higher standard than that. Obama’s top-tier Cabinet posts included a secretary of state who ran against him in the primary, a secretary of defense who was a lifelong Republican, and a Treasury secretary who was a largely apolitical technocrat. Attempting to hold Trump to that bar of independence and integrity may sound like a fool’s errand. But it’s of course precisely because Trump does not seem like the kind of high-minded individual who would value independence and integrity in public officials that the Senate must insist on it.

Even with an absolutely first-rate group of Senate-confirmable executive branch appointees, the practical problems with having elected a president with no knowledge of or interest in public policy will be considerable.

But if he’s allowed to stack the Cabinet with yes-men, cronies, and sycophants, then the danger becomes severe.

The main thing that names currently floating around as potential Cabinet picks — Steven Mnuchin, Newt Gingrich, John Bolton, Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani — have in common is that they backed Trump. We cannot allow personal loyalty to Donald Trump to be the decisive factor in staffing the executive branch. Personnel is policy, and if fealty to Trump determines the personnel, then fealty to Trump will also be the policy.

I don’t want to live in a world where personal loyalty to Donald Trump is the sine qua non of every policy decision. And my guess is that, if they think about it, neither do Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz or Lisa Murkowski or any number of other Republicans from outside the Trumposphere who will be inevitably ground down if he is able to make his will prevail.

Above all, senators from both parties who know in their hearts that we are living through a dangerous moment need to avoid falling prey to wishful thinking. Because Trump is a vengeful and irrational man, picking a fight with him over an SEC commissioner or an assistant attorney general feels unpleasant, and many would simply rather duck the issue. But that vengeful and irrational nature is precisely why the fights must be picked and must be picked now.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/17/13626514/trump-systemic-cor
ruption

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:56 PM

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Hey G. As you know, SIG's and 1kikis' postings' here resemble the fake news postings Facebook and Google are now looking for ways to stop. We and others here have been the keepers of the gate. Thread after thread we have exposed their bullshit by posting some facts and exposing them as trolls. It doesn't matter that they live in a world of their own. That they don't realize, anyone who follows the threads know they and their news sources are dishonest. It's just a part of their disease. It's also why trolls are depicted as ugly and antisocial.

They must be off celebrating Trump's victory with newt stew and a side of monkey brains.

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:05 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I wonder how long he'll put up the act of trying to be a president? Not very long if people keep making demands of him, and not being grateful or showing him any respect. Imagine a president that hates the people he's serving - ding ding!

Getting Uday and Qussay top clearance? Can you IMAGINE if Obama's children were older and he tried to get them clearance??? Can you see Mitch McConnell's head explode? Can you hear talk radio blow up?

Trump can serve himself better in the White House than in retirement. He will not retire early.

Many American administrations have featured acts of venal corruption, from the self-serving, and Trump’s will likely feature more than most. The larger risk, however, is that Trump’s lack of grounding in ideological principles or party networks will create a systemically corrupt government. Such governments operate by limiting access to markets and resources in order to create rents that bind the interests of the ruling coalition together.

This is how Vladimir Putin governs Russia, and how the Mubarak and Sisi regimes rule Egypt. To be a successful businessman in a systemically corrupt regime and to be a close supporter of the regime are one and the same thing.

Those who support the regime will receive favorable treatment from Trump's regulators and those who oppose it will not. Because businesses do business with each other, the network becomes self-reinforcing. Regime-friendly banks receive a light regulatory touch while their rivals are crushed. In exchange, they offer friendly lending terms to regime-friendly businesses while choking capital to rivals. Such a system, once in place, is extremely difficult to dislodge precisely because, unlike a fascist or communist regime, it is glued together by no ideology beyond basic human greed, insecurity, and love of family.

It is entirely possible that eight years from now we’ll be looking at an entrenched kleptocracy preparing to install a chosen successor whose only real mission is to preserve the web of parasitical oligarchy that has replaced the federal government as we know it. One can, of course, always hope that the worst does not come to pass. While the impulse to “wait and see” what really happens is understandable, the cold hard reality is that the most crucial decisions will be the early ones.

If the President wishes to pursue vendettas, the regulatory state would be the most direct and simplest way for him to do so. The usual presumption of ‘innocent until proven guilty’ does not hold in many regulatory matters, nor are there always the usual protections of due process.

And Trump is certainly a vengeful man. As he wrote in his 2007 book, Think Big And Kick Ass, “When someone intentionally harms you or your reputation, how do you react? I strike back, doing the same thing to them only ten times worse.”

Trump is not going to crush the free media in one fell swoop. But big corporate media does face enough regulatory matters that even a single exemplary case would suffice to induce large-scale self-censorship. AT&T, for example, is currently seeking permission from anti-trust authorities to buy Time Warner — permission that Time Warner executives might plausible fear is contingent on Trump believing that CNN has covered him “fairly.” A Federal Trade Commission investigation charging Amazon with predatory pricing would be viewed favorably by many competing retailers, but would also be seen in other quarters as Trump making good on his promise to punish Jeff Bezos for critical coverage in the Washington Post.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/17/13626514/trump-systemic-cor
ruption

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:26 PM

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Los Angeles Anti-Trump Protest March
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Friday, November 18, 2016 1:51 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Los Angeles Anti-Trump Protest March

Like a lot of things posted by 'g', thugger and second, absolutely fictitious.

I thought this was supposed to be REAL. WORLD. EVENTS.

And somehow, in an entire universe of slow pitches just begging you to hit even one out of REAL. WORLD. EVENTS. you all strike out.

And second, I gotta say. 'g' and thuggr are just plain trolls and not worth old spit on a sidewalk. You OTOH seem bent in the brain. You couldn't admit hitlery had even one fault that she might possibly work on in order to strengthen her campaign and, not coincidentally, her chances of winning. And you're so obsessed with flinging poo at Trump you can't even figure out what's a real thing you should be aiming at.

It's a lack of mental skills that's put you in the position you're in today.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Friday, November 18, 2016 2:08 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

So, second. hitlery lost.

Shake out your shoulders. Take a deep breath.

Bernie is trying to create a coalition of progressives to counter Trump. Are you going to still obsess over Trump even though it did absolutely NO GOOD the last time around? Are you still going to write Bernie off because he's stooped? Or are you going to join up with Bernie as the most logical place at the moment to DO SOMETHING about what Trump represents?

Your choice. Fruitless obsession? Or active participation?

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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