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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria
Monday, December 19, 2016 6:29 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, December 19, 2016 8:55 PM
Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:25 PM
Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:31 PM
Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:32 PM
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:00 AM
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:23 PM
Quote:Curious - no cites for the article?
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Sort of like Siggy's staged White Helmet fake photos?
Quote:Your article says the photographer told the police that he was faking the photos for social media - omg how convenient! Sorry, your story sounds fake.
Quote: Hope your jello was good today.
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:00 PM
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:49 PM
Quote:“I spoke at DIA last month,” Powell wrote in a July 19 email exchange with his son. “Flynn got fired as head of DIA. His replacement is a black Marine 3-star. I asked why Flynn got fired. Abusive with staff, didn’t listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc. He has been and was right-wing nutty every [sic] since. I watched about five minutes on line of his talked [sic] and switched off.” While Powell admitted in an Aug. 10 email to a Washington Post reporter that he never “knew or served with Flynn,” he still sounded off on the Trump adviser. “Talking to people in the know, his real problem was leadership and management issues at DIA. Senior staff was in incipient revolt,” Powell wrote. “He has been over the top in his comments, conduct unbecoming. But he is unchained.”
Quote:How is Powell's experience not evidentiary? Do you have more experience with the military than Powell? Does your background afford you a better pov to judge Flynn by? What? I can't hear you.
Saturday, December 24, 2016 1:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: How is Powell's experience not evidentiary?
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: These are some of the things Powell said about Flynn: “I spoke at DIA last month,” Powell wrote in a July 19 email exchange with his son. “Flynn got fired as head of DIA. His replacement is a black Marine 3-star. I asked why Flynn got fired. Abusive with staff, didn’t listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc. He has been and was right-wing nutty every [sic] since. I watched about five minutes on line of his talked [sic] and switched off.” While Powell admitted in an Aug. 10 email to a Washington Post reporter that he never “knew or served with Flynn,” he still sounded off on the Trump adviser. “Talking to people in the know, his real problem was leadership and management issues at DIA. Senior staff was in incipient revolt,” Powell wrote. “He has been over the top in his comments, conduct unbecoming. But he is unchained.”
Quote:Originally posted by G: SPECIFICALLY his EXPERIENCE gives him SPECIFIC knowledge of Flynn. Hey! Wait a sec! You're being stupid again! You almost got me Kiki! http://uproxx.com/news/michael-flynn-arabic-signs-border/ Ever since President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for National Security Advisor, retired Gen. Michael Flynn, was connected to several social media posts regarding the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency has come under fire.
Quote:Originally posted by G: According to CNN, Flynn made a rather dubious claim in August about “Arabic” signs located sporadically along the U.S.-Mexico border that were meant to guide “radicalized Muslims” into the country illegally. To support his claim, which Flynn made during an interview with Breitbart News on SiriusXM Radio, he referenced anecdotal information received by friends on the Border Patrol and photos he’d allegedly seen ...
Quote: http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/08/politics/kfile-michael-flynn-arabic-signs-on-border/index.html A CNN KFile review of available information about the terror threat along the US-Mexico border could not corroborate Flynn's claim. CNN's KFile asked Flynn for clarification about the Arabic signs, but received no reply. A Trump transition spokesman declined to comment. A spokesperson for the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) "respectfully" declined to comment. Earlier in the interview, Flynn discussed Hezbollah activity with drug smugglers in South and Central America. The Drug Enforcement Administration in February announced that Hezbollah was working with South American drug cartels to move drugs into the US. A series of arrests, the DEA said, was meant to stop the organization from using millions in drug money to fund terrorist activity in Syria and Lebanon.
Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:36 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:42 PM
Quote:‘Moderate Rebels’ Executed Hostages before Leaving East Aleppo (Graphic Photo 18+) According to reports from the field, the so-called ‘moderate’ opposition massively executed captured soldiers of the Syrian Army before to leave the last neighborhoods of the city of Aleppo this week. Various pro-government sources claim that the number of killed Syrian soldiers reached 100 people. However, this information still has not been confirmed. At the same time, pro-opposition sources do not comment on the situation. Reportedly, the massacre was committed by the Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zenki and Jaish al-Fatah groups in Sukkari and Bustan Al-Qasr districts of the city. The victims were mainly young men between the ages of 18-25. A video, published online, presumably shows a Syrian soldier, captured, according to the voiceover, by members of the al-Din al-Zenki group. We also can see the same soldier in one of the photos, showing killed servicemen. So, it is clear that namely al-Din al-Zenki committed the murder of this soldier, as well as of others people in the picture. https://twitter.com/walid970721/status/812441818797371392/video/1 PT Video w/ sub-titles. Voice says that Ahrar&Zinki r holding the prisoners who we know r now dead. So it wasn’t JFS who killed them #Syria pic.twitter.com/XHhnP0V3AL — Walid (@walid970721) December 23, 2016 The photos below were published by pro-government journalists, reporting from eastern Aleppo. The soldiers, presented in the photos, still have not been identified. According to some reports, a large number of the executed soldiers were beheaded by jihadists. However, there is no confirmation of this information. Photo: twitter.com / Gjoene Photo: twitter.com / Gjoene According to some reports, the High Command of the Syrian Army demanded to free these soldiers before jihadists left eastern Aleppo. However, militants denied the fact that they have any hostages. Meanwhile, the Sputnik news agency also reported that Syrian servicemen discovered bodies of people, executed by terrorists, in one of the schools in Sukkari district. According to attorney of the Syrian military police, Samer Yousef, there were children among the killed people. Reportedly, characteristic traces of an execution, “including severed heads and poked out eyes,” were on the bodies of the victims. Some of them were shot dead at close range. Yousef added that soon, the DNA samples will be taken in order to identify the victims. According to the attorney, the execution occurred about 4-5 days ago.
Saturday, December 24, 2016 8:07 PM
Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:48 AM
Quote:My xmas gift to you: Logic Tape to fix your broken logic.
Quote:You are wrong of course in so many ways.
Quote: If someone I trust
Quote:tells me they worked with you
Quote:and that he worked with Flynn
Quote:It's something we all do
Quote: GSTRING, you claim to be a manager. (eh?) Well, I don't know how much of a manager you are, but in government agencies, you have to provide SPECIFIC EVIDENCE of how someone is fucking up. You can't just say that someone is "insubordinate", you have to provide the times, dates, and instances where a person was directed (and re-directed) to do something by a certain time and either outright verbally refused or simply failed to perform the task in a timely manner, and that it was not due to safety concerns or lack of training.- SIGNY Well shoot, that's wrong. You're not thinking things through (or you're lying again). Let's get out the LT: You don't have to "provide the times, dates, and instances where a person was directed (and re-directed) to do something by a certain time and either outright verbally refused or simply failed to perform the task in a timely manner," unless you are going to file a formal charge or complaint against said person because almost all gov agencies are over stuffed, over cautious, OCD, bureaucracies managed by red tape. More to the point: you also don't have to do any of those things to KNOW if someone is a nut or a fuck up. -GSTRING
Quote: Similarly, you can't just say that someone is "incapable" you have to provide the times and dates of training logs, and demonstrate that training was attempted several times with several people.- SIGNY Flynn was fired - that's evidence of his being incapable.- GSTRING
Quote:I guess YOUR problem is you (STILL!!!) can't separate "allegation" from "evidence".- SIGNY I addressed in another post how you and Kiki use "evidence" as a dodge. Old news.- GSTRING
Quote:Saying someone is "abusive" or "working against policy" is an allegation ... i.e. it's an ACCUSATION unsubstantiated by EVIDENCE: times, dates, places, and descriptions documented by testimony from multiple people, or physical evidence such as missing data files, emails sent and received, bruises, broken parts or what-have-you. Now, I realize that for perfectly valid personnel reasons (something you may not know anything about) that specific evidence won't be forthcoming. But that that all means is that whatever Colin Powell said is just so much vapor: it's strictly hearsay (what someone told Powell, not what he witnessed directly), lacking corroborating evidence, and can't be used to judge Flynn's military performance because the allegations could all be purely political. - SIGNY And totally wrong. One wonders how you function day to day. You have no idea what Powell knows or how he knows it, do you?-GSTRING
Quote:What we do know about how he feels about Flynn comes from the statements he's made - those are evidence of his opinions are they not? Unless you can prove he makes his opinions up at random or his opinions can't be trusted
Quote:then you don't even have a fundamentally sound argument (we're running out of tape!).- GSTRING
Quote:So we will have to go on what Flynn says or tweets directly, plus historical fact.- SIGNY Ok - I'm guessing you've seen this: = GSTRING
Quote:FACT: Flynn co-wrote the military's counterinsurgency manual. - SIGNY Awesome!- GSTRING
Quote:(And, no, repeating the accusation a few hundred times doesn't raise it to the level of evidence. Although it DOES raise the allegation to the level of "propaganda". That's what KRAPO does, and he's quite proud of it, he even says so in his signature, but it's still just allegation and propaganda.) - SIGNY You let someone named "KRAPO" make you look so bad so many times? Sorry, KPO makes you look like the phony we all know you to be over and over and over. You're never going to argue you way out of that perception - surely you know that by know!- GSTRING
Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:35 PM
Quote:You don't understand (or fail to admit) when you have been quantifiably, repeatedly proven wrong. I provided proof of why Flynn was incapable (fired)
Quote:and his tweet (you requested, I provided), showing how he was a nut- GSTRING
Quote: Give yourself the gift of Truth this season - you will thank yourself eventually. - GSTRING
Quote:Trust has to be earned..., - SIGNY No shit. I trust Powell.- GSTRING
Quote:Wow - look what SIGNYM left under the tree - lots lies all gift wrapped! - GSTRING
Sunday, December 25, 2016 4:46 PM
Quote: http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/08/politics/kfile-michael-flynn-arabic-signs-on-border/index.html Earlier in the interview, Flynn discussed Hezbollah activity with drug smugglers in South and Central America. The Drug Enforcement Administration in February announced that Hezbollah was working with South American drug cartels to move drugs into the US. A series of arrests, the DEA said, was meant to stop the organization from using millions in drug money to fund terrorist activity in Syria and Lebanon.
Monday, December 26, 2016 11:46 AM
Quote:So, you know what sources I trust? Even after I said years ago I don't trust any source? So go ahead, name them.
Monday, December 26, 2016 12:24 PM
Quote:Mass graves of tortured civilians found in Aleppo – Russian MoD Mass graves with dozens of bodies of civilians subjected to brutal torture have been discovered in Aleppo neighborhoods left by militants, the Russian Defense Ministry said Monday. Many of the corpses were found with missing body parts, and most had gunshot wounds to the head, according to a statement by Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov. “The completion of a uniquely large-scale humanitarian operation by the Russian Center for Reconciliation in Aleppo will destroy many of the myths that have been fed to the world by Western politicians,” Konashenkov said in a statement. “The results of only an initial survey of Aleppo neighborhoods abandoned by the so-called ‘opposition’ will shock many.” In addition to the massacres on militant-held territory, the area had been extensively mined
Quote:streets, cars, the entrances to buildings and even children’s toys had been booby-trapped. In one small area, three tanks, two cannons, two multiple rocket launchers and numerous homemade mortars were found. Seven huge warehouses filled with ammunition and supplies were also discovered, Konashenkov said. On December 23, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said all militants had been evacuated from Aleppo. This came shortly after the Syrian Army declared the entire city free from anti-government armed groups. The Russian military is currently involved in minesweeping the liberated areas and providing humanitarian aid to returning residents. On Friday, a Russian military police battalion arrived to help maintain security. https://www.rt.com/news/371824-aleppo-mass-graves-civilians/
Monday, December 26, 2016 4:16 PM
Quote:There Are No Terrorists? Counterterrorism = Supporting Terrorism? Western Governments Are Supporting Terrorist Organizations Which They are Allegedly Combating The Western media in chorus is accusing the Syrian government and its allies including Russia and Iran of “crimes against humanity” for having liberated Aleppo from the clutch of Al Qaeda terrorists. “Putin and Assad could face justice for war crimes in Syria” according to the Washington Post. In the media coverage of Aleppo, the Al Qaeda affiliated terrorists are casually described as opposition “rebels” waging a “revolution” against the government of Bashar al Assad, who is portrayed as a “dictator”. The media propaganda campaign has gone into high gear. The words “Al Qaeda”, “Al Nusra” or “terrorists” are simply not mentioned in recent media reports. It never happened. “Opposition rebels” committed to democracy have been crushed by the Russians, according to “authoritative” media sources. According to reports, there were no terrorists in Aleppo. The “rebels” are now being portrayed as the victims of Russian aggression. These are the same terrorists who are the object of Obama’s alleged “counterterrorism” campaign, which is largely intent upon protecting the terrorists. Lies by Omission There is no mention of the fact that East Aleppo has been occupied by Al Qaeda affilated entities (which are on the EU and US State Department “terror lists”) and that these terrorists –which are now portrayed as “freedom fighters’– have committed countless atrocities against civilians. And these atrocities are now casually being blamed on the Syrian, Russian and Iranian forces which liberated Aleppo. For four years East Aleppo has been occupied by Al Qaeda, which had established a regime of terror and destruction. The media has portrayed the terrorists as “the moderate” opposition. Syria: A US-NATO Sponsored Terrorist Insurrection Initiated in March 2011 The evidence amply confirms that Washington has supported the terrorists from the very outset. The influx of Salafist mercenaries commenced in the Southern city of Daraa on the border with Jordan in mid-March 2011. Moreover, in an August 2011 report, Israeli intelligence news (Debka) confirmed that NATO and the Turkish High Command were involved in recruiting Mujahideen mercenaries throughout “the Middle East and the Muslim world”, while providing the rebels with an vast array of weapons: “NATO strategists are thinking more in terms of pouring large quantities of anti-tank and anti-air rockets, mortars and heavy machine guns into the protest centers… ” (Debka) . The terrorists are the foot-soldiers of the Western military alliance. Al Qaeda is a creation of the CIA. The Islamic State (ISIS-Daesh) was originally an Al Qaeda affiliated entity (Al Qaeda in Iraq) created by US intelligence with the support of Britain’s MI6, Israel’s Mossad, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Saudi Arabia’s General Intelligence Presidency (GIP). Obama’s Counter-Terrorism Campaign is a Fraud Obama’s counter-terrorism bombing campaign directed against the Islamic State (ISIS-Daesh) initiated in August 2014 is fake. If they had wanted to eliminate ISIS-Daesh, they could have bombed their convoys of Toyota pickup trucks when they crossed the desert from Syria into Iraq in June 2014. The Syro-Arabian Desert is open territory. With a fleet of state of the art jet fighter aircraft (F15, F22 Raptor, F16) it would have been –from a military standpoint– ”a piece of cake”, a rapid and expedient surgical operation, which would have decimated the Islamic State convoys in a matter of hours. The issue mentioned above has never been raised by military analysts. It has never received media coverage. Needless to say that if they had eliminated the ISIS convoy in June 2014, Obama’s “Counterterrorism” initiative entitled “Operation Inherent Resolve” would not have been required. The unspoken objective of Obama’s “counterterrorism” campaign was to provide a pretext and a justification for the extensive bombing of Iraq and Syria. According to CENTCOM, more than 31,900 targets were the object of US bombings over a period of more than 2 years, and the ISIS has yet to be defeated. The counterterrorism bombing campaign was instigated to destroy Iraq and Syria rather than defeat the ISIS. Foreign Mercenaries and Western Special Forces Amply documented, these various terror formations in Syria, the most important of which are Jabhat Al Nusra (recently renamed Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, “Front for the Conquest of the Levant”), and the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS-Daesh) are largely composed of foreign mercenaries, recruited, trained and financed by the Western military alliance. Western special forces –often hired by private mercenary outfits– are embedded within the ranks of these terror formations. These special forces are in permanent liaison with their US-NATO-Israeli counterparts. The various terror organizations are instruments of US-NATO. The US, France, Britain, Germany, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel are the “State sponsors” of Al Qaeda and the ISIS. Money and weapons are channeled to the terrorists. The US and its allies use arms trafficking –i.e. the unregulated illicit trade in light weapons through private traders including organized crime–, to channel large amounts of weapons and ammunition to the terrorists inside Syria.The Berlin Terror Attack Terror Attacks in Western Cities Now let us turn our attention to the Berlin terror attack (December 19, 2016), which coincided chronologically with the Liberation of Aleppo. Within less than an hour of the occurrence prior to the conduct of a police investigation, the Western media in chorus concluded without a shred of evidence that ISIS-Daesh was behind the attack. This is the “authoritative report” of the Washington Post: The “self proclaimed soldier of the Islamic State” is dead. And dead suspects do not talk. That seems to be a pattern in most of the alleged ISIS terror attacks in Western cities. Moreover, the alleged suspect was on the radar of the German police and intelligence. “The shootout would end the violent arc of Amri’s life, marking another salvo in a relentless new wave of Islamist terrorism in Europe that has vexed the ability of nations to thwart it. (Washington Post, December 23, 2016) The CNN’s report concludes that the ISIS was behind the attack because the ISIS affiliated Amaq News Agency “released a statement saying that Monday’s attack was carried out by a ‘soldier of the Islamic State’”. The I.D. Card of the Alleged Lone Perpetrator It is worth noting that the I.D. Card of Anis Amri was found inside the truck 24 hours “after” the conduct of a thorough police investigation of the wrecked truck. And immediately Amri was identified as the perpetrator of the terror attack. Was his I.D card belatedly “found” or was it “planted” under the driver’s seat of the lorry? This is not the first time that the I.D. card or passport of an alleged terror suspect is “left behind”. Said Kouachi, one of the alleged perpetrators of the Paris Charlie Hebdo January 2015 attack “reportedly” also left his I.D card behind, in his brother’s abandoned getaway car (see image right). On the Radar of the Police and Intelligence Agencies Said Kouachi's ID card. Allegedly found in the getaway car. Most of the alleged terror suspects involved in recent attacks (Paris, Brussels, Nice) were on the radar of the police and intelligence agencies. Moreover, it is worth noting that Amedi Coulibaly, principal suspect of the January 2015 Paris Charlie Hebdo terror attack who was shot dead at the kosher grocery store in Vincennes on January 9, had been invited in 2009 to a meeting at the Elysée Palace with (former) president Nicolas Sarkozy. What was the real purpose of his meeting behind closed doors with an acting head of State? Is it relevant? Nobody bothered in the French media to ask Nicolas Sarkozy to clarify the nature of his meeting with Coulibaly. “The Terrorists R Us“, The fundamental question which the media fails to address is who is behind ISIS-Daesh? Who are the “State sponsors” of the Islamic State? The unspoken truth is that several Western governments are supporting the terror organizations which they are allegedly combating. The US counter-terrorism coalition is intent upon supporting and protecting the terrorists in Syria and Iraq. It’s a diabolical agenda. The governments of the countries whose citizens are the victims of terror attacks are supporting ISIS-Daesh. “You are either with us or with the terrorists”, said George W. Bush in an address to the US Congress in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Western leaders are so to speak “with themselves as well as with the terrorists”. Most people in Western countries are unaware that their own governments are supporting and funding the terrorists. When France provides (covert) military aid to both the Libya Islamic fighting Group (LIFG) and ISIS-Daesh in Syria, does this not suggest that the French government might at some future date be “held accountable” for the terror attacks in Paris and Nice (allegedly carried out by the ISIS), which have resulted in the deaths of innocent civilians? Germany sells large amounts of weapons to Turkey and Saudi Arabia which in turn provide military aid to Al Qaeda and the Islamic State. Does this not signify –to put it mildly– that Angela Merkel’s government should take “some responsibility” for the Berlin terror attack allegedly conducted by ISIS-Daesh? Combating ISIS on the one hand, Supporting ISIS on the other hand? A criminal undertaking. Western Governments are State Sponsors of Terrorism Despite the evidence, it is very difficult for people to accept the fact that their own government is supporting terrorism. Most people will dispel this as an impossibility. But it is the forbidden truth. The established consensus is that the role of a government is to protect its people. That myth has to be sustained. The media’s role is to ensure that the truth does not trickle down to the broader public. If that were to occur, the legitimacy of Obama, Hollande, Merkel, et al would collapse like a deck of cards.
Monday, December 26, 2016 4:25 PM
Quote:that's just too ironical! Of all the people posting on this board NO ONE has dumped their "convictions" faster or more completely than you being all in for Trump.
Monday, December 26, 2016 7:39 PM
Monday, December 26, 2016 11:59 PM
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM
Quote:Because there can only be one kind of 'invasion.'- GSTRING
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:53 PM
Quote:Oh, btw- YES, you believe the MSM. Your POV clearly shows that you do. What you WON'T do is actually give us your opinions. You're just a rabid dog: attack, attack, attack.= SIGNY You say you know what my POV is and then you say I don't "actually give us your opinions." So is that another lie or just more broken logic?= GSTRING
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 1:01 PM
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 1:04 PM
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 12:13 PM
Quote:"The lady GSTRING doth protest too much, methinks" is a quotation from the c.?1600 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare.[1] It has been used as a figure of speech, in various phrasings, to describe someone's overly frequent and vehement attempts to convince others of some matter of which the opposite is true, thereby making themselves appear defensive and insincere./
Quote:Russian sappers sweep Aleppo for mines, discovering shells made in US, Germany Russian bomb disposal teams are continuing to sweep schools and mosques of Aleppo for booby-traps, mines and munitions after they were wrested from rebel control. Recovered explosives come from various parts of the world, including the US and Germany. Since starting their mine-swiping mission in the Syrian city three weeks ago, the sappers have cleared 966 hectares, the Russian Syrian Reconciliation Center reported on Wednesday. They reported 2,149 building in and near Aleppo as safe, including 44 schools, 38 mosques, 10 medical facilities and other crucial civilian infrastructure. They also swept 350km of roads in the area for mines, the report said. The teams discovered and defused some 14,700 dangerous items, including 6,700 IEDs. The munitions discovered in stockpiles left behind by various armed groups ranged from small arms rounds and hand grenades all the way up to rockets meant for multiple-rocket launchers. Footage of the ongoing demining operation released by the Russian Defense Ministry showed crates full of various munitions; some of them marked “Produced in Yugoslavia by Ordnance Corps United States Army.” “The munitions we found were German, American, Bulgarian... The amount they had was somewhat disconcerting,” Maj. Ivan Gromov, a bomb disposal squad leader said. The Russian military in Aleppo are assisting with restoring normal life in the city after four years of hostilities. In addition to disposing of explosives, they help with deliveries of humanitarian aid and restoring utilities. A Russian military police unit was deployed to Aleppo to preserve order and prevent possible abuses.
Quote:Militants opposing the Syrian government were forced to leave eastern Aleppo after Damascus conducted a successful offensive operation in the city last month. The evacuation of rebel fighters and their civilian supporters was meant to spare lives and was conducted with the help of international humanitarian organizations. This ended constant fighting in the city, which was divided into government-held and rebel-held parts for years.
Thursday, December 29, 2016 11:01 AM
Quote:Good quote, too bad it doesn't apply.
Quote:Duginista?
Quote:Syria conflict: Ceasefire agreed, backed by Russia and Turkey The Syrian government and rebel groups have agreed a nationwide ceasefire from midnight local time (22:00 GMT) on Thursday, followed by peace talks. The deal was announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin and confirmed by the Turkish foreign ministry. Russia and Turkey, which back opposing sides, will act as guarantors. The rebel High Negotiations Committee (HNC), seen by the UN as the main opposition group, confirmed the deal, which excludes certain jihadist groups. The Syrian army said in a statement that so-called Islamic State (IS) and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (formerly the Nusra Front) "and the groups affiliated to them" were not part of the agreement. Latest updates on Syria ceasefire Osama Abu Zaid, a spokesman for the Free Syrian Army (FSA), a loose alliance of several moderate rebel factions under the HNC, said the deal also did not include the Kurdish Popular Protection Units (YPG). The YPG, along with other Kurdish militias, controls a large area of northern Syria up the Turkish border. It is regarded by Turkey as a terrorist organisation and an extension of the banned Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). However, the ceasefire will take in the rebel-held eastern Ghouta area near Damascus, which had been a sticking-point in negotiations. The HNC, the umbrella group representing Syria's political and armed opposition factions, said that, because of the rebels' limited resources against government forces and their factional allies, it was "not possible to continue" the fight. Earlier this month, Moscow and Ankara negotiated a ceasefire in Syria's second city, Aleppo, that led to tens of thousands of rebel fighters and civilians being evacuated from an enclave besieged by government forces.
Thursday, December 29, 2016 12:06 PM
Thursday, December 29, 2016 3:44 PM
Quote: I've never once spoken about that directly or even remotely
Friday, December 30, 2016 10:27 AM
Quote:Footage: ‘Moderate Rebels’ Fire US-Supplied Anti-Tank Missile On Civilians Walking Street In Southern Aleppo The recently appeared footage shows so-called “moderate rebels” firing a US-supplied anti-tank guided missile on people walking down the street in southern Aleppo. The video released on December 28. The incident took place in the Dahiet Al Assad area. Pro-militant sources claim that people on the video were “regime fighters”, but fail to provide any evidence of this. The video does not allow to identify these people as armed fighters. Most likely, the so-called “moderate opposition” just killed another group of civilians returning homes in the souhthern part of Aleppo. Our moderate rebels fire American anti-tank TOWs on people walking down the street South of Aleppo, at least they said Allah wo Akbar pic.twitter.com/zJz1y3eQxC — Bassem (@BBassem7) December 28, 2016
Friday, December 30, 2016 11:08 AM
Quote:An intensive infighting has erupted between ringleaders of the Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (previously known as the al-Nusra Front) and Ahrar al-Sham terrorist groups due to disagreements over merger plans. Mosleh al-Aliani, a Saudi mufti, associated with Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, accused the council of Ahrar al-Sham of disrupting plans for merging with the al-Nusra Front. According to al-Aliani, the council of Ahrar al-Sham voted against the merger and prevented its implementation, despite the fact that earlier head of Ahrar al-Sham, Abu Ammar al-Umar, had agreed with plans to merge with the Jabhat Fateh al-Sham and Nour al-Din al-Zenki groups. The council believes that the merge may lead to inclusion of Ahrar al-Sham to the list of globally declared terrorist organizations. However, Abu al-Bara Ma’arshamarin, a senior commander of Ahrar al-Sham, refuted the statement of al-Aliani and said that the council of the group did not hold a vote on joining to other militant groups. Meanwhile, Hessam Salamah, another senior commander of Ahrar al-Sham, said that Jabhat Fateh al-Sham canceled a meeting, which was planned to be held without any prerequisite, and deferred implementation of the merger, explaining this step by the fact that such decisions should be taken by deputy Emir and military commander of the group. At the same time, commanders of the two other groups were ready to start the talks without any preconditions. On Tuesday, the Fars news agency reported, citing unnamed battlefield sources, that a group, affiliated to Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, attacked a headquarters of the Free Idlib Army in Ma’rat Harama village in the southern parts of Idlib, killed its two field commanders, Ahmad al-Khatib and Younis Zariq, and then fled the scene. According to the sources, an outpost of Ahrar al-Sham, located in al-Habit village in southern Idlib was also attacked by another group, which also managed to kill three members of the terrorist group.
Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:44 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Tuesday, January 3, 2017 2:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "The number of evacuated "moderate rebels" and their families from Aleppo numbers about 3,000 so far. Assuming that the evacuation continues for another few days, let's assume 5,000. Not 30,000." "Evacuating 3,000-5,000 "moderate rebels" from Aleppo hardly constitutes "ethnic cleansing"!" "Okay. While KRAPO shits his pants about a phantom "30,000" rebels and their families..."
Tuesday, January 3, 2017 3:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Considering the similarities between the two, I would expect that the ISIS horror stories coming out of Mosul would be echoed by the people of Aleppo suburb. So I'll find similarities, differences, AND WESTERN MEDIA SILENCE ON ALEPPAN LIVES UNDER ISIS, to all be valuable information.
Tuesday, January 3, 2017 3:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: MEANWHILE - The magic disappearing 'news' about Russian/ Syrian airstrikes on the aid convoy. http://www.unocha.org/top-stories/all-stories/syria-unsarc-convoy-hit-urum-al-kubra-northwest-aleppo-city 'Airstrkes' phrasing deleted. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/09/20/UN-warns-Syria-aid-convoy-attack-could-be-war-crime-.html The United Nations on Tuesday has backtracked and amended its language when it said that the aid convoy in Syria’s Aleppo was “attacked” instead of it being targeted through “air strikes,” a spokesman said. “We are not in position to determine whether these were in fact air strikes,” the spokesman added.
Tuesday, January 3, 2017 3:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And also how YOUR TERRORIST BUDDIES destroyed a rather large convoy of UN aid.
Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:55 AM
Quote:Is this you talking about the same UN aid convoy Sig?
Quote:While you're at it, are you ready to back up (or withdraw) your claims about ISIS being in control of rebel-held Aleppo?
Quote:The number of evacuated "moderate rebels" and their families from Aleppo numbers about 3,000 so far. Assuming that the evacuation continues for another few days, let's assume 5,000. Not 30,000. Evacuating 3,000-5,000 "moderate rebels" from Aleppo hardly constitutes "ethnic cleansing"!" "Okay. While KRAPO shits his pants about a phantom "30,000" rebels and their families..."= SIGNY The Red Cross and Red Crescent have completed the evacuation of some 35,000 people from eastern Aleppo. Buses and ambulances transported people to neighbouring rural areas during a week-long operation marked by stops and starts, and increasingly bad weather. One hundred critically wounded and sick patients were among the evacuees. Marianne Gasser, head of the International Committee of the Red Cross in Syria, said: “Our priority, aside from helping the most vulnerable, was to ensure that civilians were leaving of their own free will. “These are communities whose neighbourhoods have been devastated by violence and families have been struggling for months to find safety, food, medical care or appropriate shelter. They appeared desperate to leave, even though the situation was extremely painful and confusing.”= KPO
Monday, January 9, 2017 8:58 PM
Sunday, January 29, 2017 11:10 AM
Quote:The blockade of water from Wadi Barada to 5 million people in Damascus is taking an interesting turn. The U.S. and UK financed White Helmet organization seems to be directly involved in it. This increases the suspicion that the illegal blockade of water to civilians in Damascus is part of a organized campaign under U.S. command. The campaign is designed to block utilities to government held areas as revenge for the liberation of east Aleppo.
Quote: aims to create an Islamic state under Sharia law, and was openly allied with Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (formerly the Al-Nusra Front, an affiliate of al-Qaeda) with which it carried out joint operations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrar_al-Sham
Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:00 PM
Quote:As many as 13,000 people, most of them civilian opposition supporters, have been executed in secret at a prison in Syria, Amnesty International says. A new report by the human rights group alleges that mass hangings took place every week at Saydnaya prison between September 2011 and December 2015.
Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:17 PM
THGRRI
Quote: SIG Now that east Aleppo was liberated/ has fallen (depending on your POV) the west and the UN have lost interest in Syria. It seems that when Syria is no longer a potential geopolitical conquest, all of that humanitarian concern kind of evaporates away, no?
Wednesday, February 8, 2017 11:37 PM
Quote:Nope SIG, the world is still watching.- THUGR
Monday, February 20, 2017 10:16 AM
Quote:You should treat ALL news as "fake news" until demonstrated otherwise.
Monday, February 20, 2017 10:25 AM
Monday, February 20, 2017 2:49 PM
DREAMTROVE
Monday, March 6, 2017 8:28 AM
Quote:This research is based on more than 70 interviews with 20 survivors of rape, dozens of former detainees, dozens of doctors, lawyers, activists and humanitarian workers, as well as three defectors from the regime security apparatus. From March to November 2016, interviews were conducted in person in Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan, or on Skype, alongside Syrian translators.
Monday, March 6, 2017 1:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: SO not walking into this firestorm, just to feed a piece of information. This is NOT a conspiracy theory, it's now established fact now, so whoever this helps, you're welcome, whoever loses point on this score, sorry, that's life. The Turkish militants just confessed to their part in the Benghazi transfer of chemical weapons to Al Nusra for use against Assad in a false flag attack. Their report completely backs up the story Seymour Hersh broke a couple years ago, the real story of Benghazi, that HRC used JSCO to transfer the weapons and then transfer weapons to Libyan rebels along with a list of targets that included the American consulate. Hersh basically covers everything in his article, so there's not need for me to do so here, but I know the New Yorker originally rejected the story because they thought it would hurt Hillary, so it ran in Al Jazeera, a few on others. The conclusion of the piece is that the gas attacks, both the initial 1500 victim attack and the total 15000, were in fact carried out from Al Nusra, with weapons surrendered to the Benghazi US consulate by Muammar Gaddafi. The weapons were transfered to Al Nusra by HRC. Al Nusra carried out the attacks, as a false flag to blame Assad and get open western support. They failed to get open support and have since joined ISIS. Again, not arguing the point, just posting to end any argument as to the responsibility for the gas attacks, and the source of chemical weapons in Syria.
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