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Russia says they bombed a chemical weapons plant

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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 5:23 PM

DREAMTROVE


This looks like an own-goal for Russia.
I'm going to go with Not-Assad's fault.
Putin is going to have to explain this one.
And maybe let us do the targeting.

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Rebel warehouse with chem weapons hit by Syrian airstrike in Idlib – Russian MOD
Published time: 4 Apr, 2017 23:19
Edited time: 5 Apr, 2017 16:50
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Rebel warehouse with chem weapons hit by Syrian airstrike in Idlib – Russian MOD
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The Syrian Air Force has destroyed a warehouse in Idlib province where chemical weapons were being produced and stockpiled before being shipped to Iraq, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman said.

The strike, which was launched midday Tuesday, targeted a major rebel ammunition depot east of the town of Khan Sheikhoun, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov said in a statement.

The warehouse was used to both produce and store shells containing toxic gas, Konashenkov said. The shells were delivered to Iraq and repeatedly used there, he added, pointing out that both Iraq and international organizations have confirmed the use of such weapons by militants.

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Syrian children receive treatment following a suspected gas attack in Khan Sheikhun, Idlib province. April 4, 2017. © Mohamed Al-Bakour Dozens reported killed in alleged gas attack in Syria, military denies involvement (PHOTOS)

The same chemical munitions were used by militants in Aleppo, where Russian military experts took samples in late 2016, Konashenkov said.

The Defense Ministry has confirmed this information as “fully objective and verified,” Konashenkov added.

According to the statement, Khan Sheikhoun civilians, who recently suffered a chemical attack, displayed identical symptoms to those of Aleppo chemical attack victims.

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Hasan Haj Ali, commander of the Free Idlib Army rebel group, rejected Russia’s version of the incident, saying the rebels had no military positions in the area.

“Everyone saw the plane while it was bombing with gas,” he told Reuters.

“Likewise, all the civilians in the area know that there are no military positions there, or places for the manufacture [of weapons]. The various factions of the opposition are not capable of producing these substances,” he added.

At least 58 people, including 11 children, reportedly died and scores were injured after a hospital in Khan Sheikhoun was targeted in a suspected gas attack on Tuesday morning, Reuters reported, citing medics and rebel activists. Soon after a missile allegedly hit the facility, people started showing symptoms of chemical poisoning, such as choking and fainting.

The victims were reportedly also seen with foam coming out of their mouths. While the major Syrian opposition group, the Syrian National Coalition, and other pro-rebel groups put the blame on the attack onto President Bashar Assad’s government, the Syrian military dismissed all allegations as propaganda by the rebels.
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"We deny completely the use of any chemical or toxic material in Khan Sheikhoun town today and the army has not used nor will use in any place or time, neither in past or in future," the Syrian army said in a statement.

The Russian military stated it did not carry out any airstrike in the area either.
However, EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini, commenting on the incident, was quick to point to the Syrian government as a culprit, saying that it bears responsibility for the “awful” attack.

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson echoed Mogherini, accusing the Syrian government of perpetrating the attack calling it “brutal, unabashed barbarism.” He argued, that besides the Syrian authorities, Iran and Russia should also bear “moral responsibility” for it.

https://www.rt.com/news/383522-syria-idlib-warehouse-strike-chemical/


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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 5:33 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


"Russia says..."

Any information following these two words can be completely disregarded.

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 5:43 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
"Russia says..."

Any information following these two words can be completely disregarded.


KPO, Do you have any basis at all for that statement?


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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 6:00 PM

THGRRI


Russia says = lie

A lie is a statement that the stating party believes to be at least partly false and that is made with the intention to deceive.

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
"Russia says..."

Any information following these two words can be completely disregarded.


KPO, Do you have any basis at all for that statement?









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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 6:25 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia says = lie



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Originally posted by THGRRI:
What a piece of shit country. Russia


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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 6:57 PM

DREAMTROVE


Si Shen, Nick, assuming, and that's a good assumption, a sockpuppet, no worries,

When Russia said Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction on account he had destroyed them in 1991, Putin was lying, Russia, sorry, the whole country, was lying?

When he said fracking was unsafe because it poisoned water supplies, he was lying. When he told Rex Tillerson that he was up for the oil deal, he was lying. When he threatened Georgia to halt its ethnic cleansing or they would invade, that must've been an empty threat because he was lying.

Sorry, this logic is not working for me. I read RT regularly, and have for many years. Since before I first joined here. I also read Al Jazeera, and the People's Daily, and Press TV, The Guardian, REUTERS, and a host of things that aren't in my own corner, including Fox News. Then I compare the stories and decide the truth for myself. Russia is actually a pretty good news source, re RT and TASS. Pravda is kinda sketchy.

The US has illegally invaded 14 countries. We used false untelligence on 14 out of 14. What's our credibility looking like?

Do we get a blanket credibility for a country?
Or do we have separate ones for different news sources?
What is FOX looking like in terms of credibility?
Is FOX fair and balanced?
Only FOX news reported that the World Trade Centers were under attack on the morning of 9.11.01. Does that alter their credibility, or the credibility of the story?
How does that reflect on America?
Or Australia?
And speaking of Australia, how about wikileaks?

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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:05 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
This looks like an own-goal for Russia.
I'm going to go with Not-Assad's fault.
Putin is going to have to explain this one.
And maybe let us do the targeting.











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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 9:13 PM

DREAMTROVE


I doubt that's the real story. I'm going to go with Fake Trump on that one. Assad would have an extreme anti-incentive for this crime. In fact, the only one with a motive is anyone who wants to overthrow the Assad regime. There's an outstanding UN resolution to invade Syria if they use chemical weapons. I'm up for calling anyone who can't see this logic as inescapable a total moron, including Firefly fans, Putin and Trump. I'm saying no holds barred because this is pretty obvious.

Not a muslim. Not a fan of Assad, at all really, not a Syrian, don't know any Syrians. Defending Syria here because I know they're right. Assad is NOT a total moron. He's proven that many times over.

Possiblities I'm willing to consider:
Some terrorist group did this, because they are total morons, on either side
ISIS/Al Nusra
Russia, through having a total moron in their military who fired a bomb at a chemical weapons facility, like they say
Anyone at all on the US, Israel, EU or Turkey NWO side.
The US military through having a total moron under our command.
The Saudis. In any capacity really.

Not about to seriously consider "Assad-Syria attacks itself to intentionally give the US an excuse to invade." Sorry, that just doesn't exist inside my frame of reality. Terrorists in Syria, a serious possibility.


ETA: This guy, not a total moron:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/thomas-massie-syria-attack-not-
assad
/

So are you saying as soon as Trump says "Let's go to war" following the Bush agenda, he can count on your support?

After watching the CNN clip, I'm leaning a little towards this is a NWO setup. The media is loving this just a little too much.

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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 9:58 PM

THGRRI


Of course you agree with Russia. No surprise there.

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
I doubt that's the real story. I'm going to go with Fake Trump on that one. Assad would have an extreme anti-incentive for this crime. In fact, the only one with a motive is anyone who wants to overthrow the Assad regime. There's an outstanding UN resolution to invade Syria if they use chemical weapons. I'm up for calling anyone who can't see this logic as inescapable a total moron, including Firefly fans, Putin and Trump. I'm saying no holds barred because this is pretty obvious.

Not a muslim. Not a fan of Assad, at all really, not a Syrian, don't know any Syrians. Defending Syria here because I know they're right. Assad is NOT a total moron. He's proven that many times over.

Possiblities I'm willing to consider:
Some terrorist group did this, because they are total morons, on either side
ISIS/Al Nusra
Russia, through having a total moron in their military who fired a bomb at a chemical weapons facility, like they say
Anyone at all on the US, Israel, EU or Turkey NWO side.
The US military through having a total moron under our command.
The Saudis. In any capacity really.

Not about to seriously consider "Assad-Syria attacks itself to intentionally give the US an excuse to invade." Sorry, that just doesn't exist inside my frame of reality. Terrorists in Syria, a serious possibility.


ETA: This guy, not a total moron:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/thomas-massie-syria-attack-not-
assad
/

So are you saying as soon as Trump says "Let's go to war" following the Bush agenda, he can count on your support?

After watching the CNN clip, I'm leaning a little towards this is a NWO setup. The media is loving this just a little too much.








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Wednesday, April 5, 2017 10:02 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia says = lie



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Originally posted by THGRRI:
What a piece of shit country. Russia


Chechnya police reportedly round up 100 suspected homosexuals

MOSCOW -- A respected Russian newspaper says it has uncovered information that police in the southern Russian republic of Chechnya have rounded up more than 100 men suspected of homosexuality and that at least three have been killed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chechnya-police-gay-men-suspected-homosexu
ality-russia-novaya-gazeta/





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