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Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:08 PM
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No liberals approved of our adventures in the middle east. We were ignored, as usual.

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Well, let's see....starting with Washington?- SGG

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Why not? It will bring SOME recognition to the fact that our nation was born in genocide as well as slavery and the concept of democracy.

But if you want to make this an easier comparison, how about starting with Kennedy?


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Originally posted by REAVERFAN:
Won't change the fact that what I said is true.

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Says the compulsive liar.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I seem to recall a lot of people here who CALLED themselves liberals, and a lot of people here who claim to be Democrats, who were all hot to trot to destroy Libya and Syria because, yanno, Obama was leading R2P.

Shall I find the relevant posts and information? Because you're clearly ignorant of the people here, and a liar as well as a troll.

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But this topic is focused upon Trump being a scumbag.- SHINY

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
... in which GSTRING, KRAPO, THUGR, and (sometimes) SECOND repeatedly support the "FSA" - ie, al Nusra and other jihadists - in their effort to topple Assad and destroy Syria.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And of course, Democrats like Hillary and Feinstein voting "for" the Iraq war is a matter of historical record; it would be impossible to deny or cover up.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As for Libya, THUGR repeatedly thumped for our "intervention" there

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
... in which GSTRING, KRAPO, THUGR, and (sometimes) SECOND repeatedly support the "FSA" - ie, al Nusra and other jihadists - in their effort to topple Assad and destroy Syria.


And of course, Democrats like Hillary and Feinstein voting "for" the Iraq war is a matter of historical record; it would be impossible to deny or cover up.

As for Libya, THUGR repeatedly thumped for our "intervention" there

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Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:08 PM
Originally posted by reaverfan:
No liberals approved of our adventures in the middle east. We were ignored, as usual.

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Seventy-Two Percent of Americans Support War Against Iraq
https://news.gallup.com/poll/.../seventytwo-percent-americans-support-
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Bush approval up 13 points to 71% Seventy-two percent of Americans interviewed in a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Saturday and Sunday favor the war against Iraq, while 25% are opposed.


I guess only 28% of americans are liberal.

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Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:08 PM
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No liberals approved of our adventures in the middle east. We were ignored, as usual.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Seventy-Two Percent of Americans Support War Against Iraq
https://news.gallup.com/poll/.../seventytwo-percent-americans-support-
war-against-iraq.a...
Bush approval up 13 points to 71% Seventy-two percent of Americans interviewed in a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Saturday and Sunday favor the war against Iraq, while 25% are opposed.
I guess only 28% of americans are liberal.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
72% believed the lies of our president and warmongering media. Only 25% saw through it.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Seventy-Two Percent of Americans Support War Against Iraq
https://news.gallup.com/poll/.../seventytwo-percent-americans-support-
war-against-iraq.a...
Bush approval up 13 points to 71% Seventy-two percent of Americans interviewed in a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Saturday and Sunday favor the war against Iraq, while 25% are opposed.

I guess only 28% of americans are liberal.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Sent IDENTITIES? REALLY?

THANKS FOR THE VEILED THREAT AFTER YEARS OF CALLING US RUSSIAN TROLLS.

And, thanks for more documentation.

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You need to reread what I posted. Your response shows you don't understand what was written. And hey, we're all holding our collective breath while waiting for your and sigs lawyers to sue us as you've threatened several times now.

Nothing yet kiki. You may want to find better lawyers yes?

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"Buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Buyers tied to Russia, Soviet republics made 86 all cash sales for Trump properties worth $109 millions
http://amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/articl
e210477439.html

"Buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City, according to a new analysis shared with McClatchy. Many of them made purchases using shell companies designed to obscure their identities." "“The size and scope of these cash purchases are deeply troubling as they can often signal money laundering activity," said Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee and a former federal prosecutor. "There have long been credible allegations of money laundering by the Trump Organization which, if true, would pose a real threat to the United States in the event that Russia were able to leverage evidence of illicit financial transactions"

Buyers include:

Anatoly Golubchik, found guilty in 2013 of operating a sports betting ring for a Russian-American organized crime group

Peter Kiritchenko, a Ukrainian businessman who prosecutors accused of laundering tens of millions of dollars

Eduard Nektalov, a Uzbeki diamond dealer was arrested on charges he laundered drug money

Aleksandr Burman, does not have a medical license, opened six clinics in Brooklyn as part of a scheme to defraud Medicare and New York State Medicaid programs of more than $26 million. Currently serving a 10 year prison sentence.

Chairman of an oil related rail company with ties to Putin and whos founder is under sanctions.

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Originally posted by JJ:
Nothing yet kiki. You may want to find better lawyers yes?

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It must be close to med time for kiki. She is posting the same shit everywhere

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SHINY, I'll do my best to dispense with the egregious insults if you do.

My point continues to be: As the nation with the overwhelmingly largest military force in the world (and the budget deficit to prove it) we must FIRST, DO NO HARM. Now, bombing, shooting, shelling, and torturing people - or paying, training and equipping others to do it for you ... CLEARLY does harm, so before we start down that road we have to make sure that we aren't doing more harm than good. The only way I know to ensure THAT is to make sure that you only use violence to directly defend yourself or others against violence. Otherwise you will probably wind up killing people because of "communism" or "freedom" or some other rationalization, and wind up doing far more harm than good.

One of the other problems using violence to achieve political ends is that once that process starts, only the most violent will get their way. In a nation with elections, there is absolutely no purpose to initiating or stoking violence, and any group that does that should be immediately suspect. That includes us.

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Sigs,
Perhaps you could point out just what your above statement has to do with the
topic at hand....namely, Why Trump is a scumbag.
SGG

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Donald Trump made 103 false claims last week, shattering his dishonesty

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You get all tied up in knots, outraged and spittle flying, about events that are less consequential than other events over which you stayed SILENT.

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And Obama lied every time he opened his mouth.

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And Obama lied every time he opened his mouth.

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Because you PRESUME that Trump is a "scumbag" without looking at other Presidents and THEIR levels of scumbaggery. You get all tied up in knots, outraged and spittle flying, about events that are less consequential than other events over which you stayed SILENT.

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I don't recall ... did you have anything to say about Obama being a "scumbag" because he destroyed Libya and tried to destroy Syria, killing hundreds of thousands and displacing millions?

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Because if not, either you're a hypocrite, or a coward, or an idiot, or in extreme denial, or just a good-old-fashioned warmonger

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you have SUCH bias that you would literally ignore the piles of bodies that former Presidents have left in their wake, in many cases creating the very migrant crisis that you're currently all agitated about.

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Trump, for all of his faults, has withdrawn funding the terrorists who were pulling Syria apart. Libya is being allowed to pull itself together, without further covert or military interference. Peace appears to be breaking out in Korea. A summit with Putin is scheduled for July. Trump appears to be doing FAR LESS HARM that Obama and Bush. If you have a criticism and it involves Trump's foreign policy killing MORE people than before, I'm all ears. I've heard some criticism along those lines, and I'm ready to hear more. But your constant bleating about Trump trivia is stupid, and worse.

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Oh, and btw, lest you misrepresent my POV with the whole "family separation" thing, I'm against it. I'm also against moving our embassy to Jerusalem. Let's agree to agree on that, and move on.

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