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Signym, you cannot be living in America and not know that American business is predatory.- SECOND

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I know that business is predatory, and YOU know that business is predatory, but our compatriots here on this board.... do THEY know how much you despise them for not standing up for their own interests?

Even when you (verbally) slap them in the face with that fact, all they do is roll over on their backs and widdle on their bellies.

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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I have copied that into my signature as a reminder to everyone what you think of them, and America.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/9/1779169/-Yes-Trump-is-a-narcis
sist-But-it-s-literally-millions-of-times-worse-than-that?detail=emaildksp

Yes, the hallmarks of narcissism are painfully obvious in the president of the United States. The endless projection. The delusion of grandeur masking a paper-thin skin that punctures under the most benign criticisms. The nonstop gaslighting. But you know who else every single one of these attributes describes?

His base.

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I think you guys and gals need to decide if Trump is an evil mastermind, or if he is an idiot.

You keep going back and forth on the issue whenever the wind blows, and I feel safe speaking for everyone that's not in your echo chamber when I say that I'm confused about where exactly it is you're coming from.

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Signym, you cannot be living in America and not know that American business is predatory.- SECOND

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I know that business is predatory, and YOU know that business is predatory, but our compatriots here on this board.... do THEY know how much you despise them for not standing up for their own interests?

Even when you (verbally) slap them in the face with that fact, all they do is roll over on their backs and widdle on their bellies.

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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I have copied that into my signature as a reminder to everyone what you think of them, and America.

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Too funny. You have run out of "believers" on this board SIGGY, besides KIKI and probably 6. Pretending otherwise just makes for a good laugh.

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https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/9/1779169/-Yes-Trump-is-a-narcis
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Yes, the hallmarks of narcissism are painfully obvious in the president of the United States. The endless projection. The delusion of grandeur masking a paper-thin skin that punctures under the most benign criticisms. The nonstop gaslighting. But you know who else every single one of these attributes describes?

His base.

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I remember President Jimmy Carter caught hell from the Republicans when he quoted from Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism. The Republicans realized that Carter was calling them nuts. It’s 40 years later and Republicans are no-longer drifting in that direction. They are shipwrecked on the shores of Narcissism.
www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/books/review/Siegel-t.html

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For decades democrats have been saying that republican voters dislike and even hate educated people. That this is because they expose their street corner logic based on emotions and void of a understanding of the facts, to be stupid.

Another thing the democrats believed was that the republican party was saturated with racists. Something the republicans dismissed as nothing more than hateful propaganda by the left.

Well folks, the democrats were and are right. Vote for democrats and make America great again.

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sist-But-it-s-literally-millions-of-times-worse-than-that?detail=emaildksp

Yes, the hallmarks of narcissism are painfully obvious in the president of the United States. The endless projection. The delusion of grandeur masking a paper-thin skin that punctures under the most benign criticisms. The nonstop gaslighting. But you know who else every single one of these attributes describes?

His base.

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I remember President Jimmy Carter caught hell from the Republicans when he quoted from Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism. The Republicans realized that Carter was calling them nuts. It’s 40 years later and Republicans are no-longer drifting in that direction. They are shipwrecked on the shores of Narcissism.
www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/books/review/Siegel-t.html

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For decades democrats have been saying that republican voters dislike and even hate educated people. That this is because they expose their street corner logic based on emotions and void of a understanding of the facts, to be stupid.

Another thing the democrats believed was that the republican party was saturated with racists. Something the republicans dismissed as nothing more than hateful propaganda by the left.

Well folks, the democrats were and are right. Vote for democrats and make America great again.

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MAGA 2020

Deal w/ it.

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MAGA 2020

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"MAGA" has to be one of the worst slogans ever for a rallying cry. Just the simple sound of it is hell, unless they were pilfering SEGA's advertising "SEGA!" It doesn't allude to anything positve, FREEDOM, closer to "maggots." And it assumes we suck right now. It's hard to imagine coming up with a worse slogan.

How do you know the GOP won't be sick of him and find someone else? Gingrich 2020!

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How do you know the GOP won't be sick of him and find someone else? Gingrich 2020!

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How do you know the GOP won't be sick of him and find someone else? Gingrich 2020!

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Vice President Mike Pence is more likely. He is both mentally stable (can't say that about Gingrich or Trump) and is not a crook (can't say that about Gingrich or Trump, either) and Pence doesn't have Trump's or Gingrich's history of betraying their many wives in many messy divorces and adulterous affairs. But on the other hand, Pence isn't a tub of lard (see Trump and Gingrich for fat heads and fat asses) which might be a disadvantage in appealing to the obese Trump voters.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Gingrich would lose in a landslide against anybody that the Democrats threw against him. Might as well have Rudy Giuliani run for president. Maybe Roger Stone.

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Gingrich would lose in a landslide against anybody that the Democrats threw against him. Might as well have Rudy Giuliani run for president. Maybe Roger Stone.

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While in ICE custody, thousands of migrants reported sexual abuse
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/while-in-ice-custody-thousands-of-mi
grants-reported-sexual-abuse?utm_source=atlantic&utm_term=social

SCUMBAG! Abolish ICE!

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Is there anything sig won't lie about?

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I know it's fashionable to attach every possible problem to the Trump administration, but that's ridiculous.

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Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?

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Geebers either makes a point of being a dolt and a troll - or he really is them. Either way, he's not going to be educable, or honorable.

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MAGA 2020

Deal w/ it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?

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AS I HAVE POSTED ABOUT TWO DOZEN TIMES ... the "solutions" to our economic and social predicaments are far beyond what ANY President can accomplish, even in two terms. It would require such radical reorganization of banking and finance, a complete overhaul of our trade policies, re-industrialization and repairing/improving infrastructure, breakup of monopolies (including media monopolies) etc etc etc that would put FDR's efforts to shame.

The best thing that I expect from Trump is to keep those decisions WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, so that we can collectively make our way forward through what I perceive to be a coming disaster.

Our problems have been over a half-century in the making, and they're not about to get solved in four or eight years. That's about as realistic and thinking we can reverse global climate change at this point.

I hope I don't have to repeat this point .... AGAIN ... for your edification, because I've posted it waaay too often already.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....

MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.


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Your point of Economic Doom is duly noted.....there, you have now been acknowledged as the Foreseer of bad tidings. You no longer need to point out the obvious.

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I knew it, I knew that trump's little statements would come back to bite him in the end. "I alone can fix it" can not stand.

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It is the way of the beast.... capitalism. I don't think of "solutions" so much, but of applying certain controls over the economy. Applying and releasing pressure where needed. The sin comes in the form of Greed and avarice...

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Your "solution" is to sever all global ties and fend for ourselves (if I'm understanding you correctly). To minimize the damage, so to speak, of the coming "disaster." And you feel that Trump is bravely moving in that direction? Oh, and didn't Obama advocate for infrastructure building? Whatever happened to that? (a rhetorical question, I know Congress did their damndest to put a krimp into Obama's economic growth agenda.)

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If that's the case, I don't see it. Logically, if the world economic order is in shambles and about to implode; wouldn't it stand to reason that the "world" would be better off working together to mend the world economy? Well, what I know about economics could fill a thimble, so I'll leave it at that. Just a curious thought on my part.

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Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?

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AS I HAVE POSTED ABOUT TWO DOZEN TIMES ... the "solutions" to our economic and social predicaments are far beyond what ANY President can accomplish, even in two terms. It would require such radical reorganization of banking and finance, a complete overhaul of our trade policies, re-industrialization and repairing/improving infrastructure, breakup of monopolies (including media monopolies) etc etc etc that would put FDR's efforts to shame.

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The best thing that I expect from Trump is to keep those decisions WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, so that we can collectively make our way forward through what I perceive to be a coming disaster.

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Our problems have been over a half-century in the making, and they're not about to get solved in four or eight years. That's about as realistic and thinking we can reverse global climate change at this point.

I hope I don't have to repeat this point .... AGAIN ... for your edification, because I've posted it waaay too often already.

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Whew! I was wondering how long I had to hold up that THE END IS NEAR!!! sign before someone noticed!

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This isn't about Trump. Trump didn't create the problems, and he can't possibly solve them.

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SOME of those cycles, however, are 150 years long. Long enough that may be out of the living memory of anyone.

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by the few, who have gained the economic, financial, political, ethical, and philosophical levers of society. Because "Greed is good"

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Infrastructure is only a part of the solution; it's not the "make-work" program that Obama envisioned.

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"so no genious award for you"

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"so no genious award for you"

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Whew! I was wondering how long I had to hold up that THE END IS NEAR!!! sign before someone noticed! - SIGNY

You see, someone did notice you.- SHINY

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This isn't about Trump. Trump didn't create the problems, and he can't possibly solve them.- SIGNY

I beg to differ. First, I never said he "created" the problems, but he certainly has contributed to them. The Tax Thing for starters. And you're right, "he can't possibly solve them", hence my comment that his statement "can not stand." Again, I'm no expert, but according to those who are, he's applying pressure to the wrong area. His actions could bring about a recession at a time when the fragile economy needs pinpoint "surgery" and not a sledgehammer.- SHINY

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SOME of those cycles, however, are 150 years long. Long enough that may be out of the living memory of anyone. -SIGNY

Careful now, we may be on the same chapter, if not the same page. Cycles do come in a variety of colors, shapes and sizes.

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I'm all for Reform and Change, but at what cost? And to whom? The "little guy" can ill afford to play economic poker.

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by the few, who have gained the economic, financial, political, ethical, and philosophical levers of society. Because "Greed is good"- SIGNY

Ah so, "we" have been paying attention- SHINY.

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Infrastructure is only a part of the solution; it's not the "make-work" program that Obama envisioned.- SIGNY

I know, infrastructure alone is not the answer. By the way, what infrastructure are you talking about? I always thought that it meant bridges, roads, schools, airports and public transport. Yes, sometimes I've been accused of thinking and sprout forth ideas that go somewhat against the grain.- SHINY

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A federal judge on Monday found that U.S. government officials have been giving psychotropic medication to migrant children at a Texas facility without first seeking the consent of their parents or guardians, in violation of state child welfare laws.

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Staff members at Shiloh admitted to signing off on medications in lieu of a parent, relative or legal guardian, according to Gee’s ruling. Government officials defended this practice, saying they provided these drugs only on “an emergency basis” when a child’s “extreme psychiatric symptoms” became dangerous.
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“I witnessed staff members forcefully give medication four times,” one child held at Shiloh, identified as Isabella M., said. “.?.?. Two staff members pinned down the girl .?.?. and a doctor gave her one or two injections.”
Isabella was prescribed multiple psychotropic medications at Shiloh, including topiramate, without her mother’s consent, according to an April court filing. “Nobody asked me for permission to give medications to my daughter, even though the staff at Shiloh has always had my telephone number and address,” the mother testified.

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While in ICE custody, thousands of migrants reported sexual abuse
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/while-in-ice-custody-thousands-of-mi
grants-reported-sexual-abuse?utm_source=atlantic&utm_term=social

SCUMBAG! Abolish ICE!

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What does this have to do with Trump? My cousin joined (what would later become) ICE at the beginning of his professional career forty years ago. He was assigned to Campo, CA, and one of the things that gave him an ulcer was knowing how abusive and predatory some of his fellow "officers" were, especially towards pretty young women. Son, this has been going on for - literally- decades. I know it's fashionable to attach every possible problem to the Trump administration, but that's ridiculous.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....

MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.


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Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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AS I HAVE POSTED ABOUT TWO DOZEN TIMES ... the "solutions" to our economic and social predicaments are far beyond what ANY President can accomplish, even in two terms. It would require such radical reorganization of banking and finance, a complete overhaul of our trade policies, re-industrialization and repairing/improving infrastructure, breakup of monopolies (including media monopolies) etc etc etc that would put FDR's efforts to shame.

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Hahahaha - you are so funny! So "there's no hope! Whaaaa! We're doomed!" And yet Trump with the help of his Republican friends found a way to line their pockets with billions of fresh American tax dollars. He did that, did he not?

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Uh-huh. You mean you can't help us?? Oh-nos.

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Our problems have been over a half-century in the making, and they're not about to get solved in four or eight years. That's about as realistic and thinking we can reverse global climate change at this point.

I hope I don't have to repeat this point .... AGAIN ... for your edification, because I've posted it waaay too often already.

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I sure hope you will find it in your heart to repeat that when I'm down and need a laugh. I think as SGG alludes to, markets are cyclical, so no genious award for you, sorries.

BTW, I keep seeing you referencing our "economic problems" - what are they exactly? I see nothing but growth and financial wellness, especially if you are wealthy. Employment is shiny - what are our "problems" that you continually whine about?

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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, haaaaaaaa………cough, cough!

Damn, I needed that. Way to go Six! I really needed a good hardy laugh out loud moment.

Thanks Buddy.


SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....

MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.


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Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY

Me too. Looking forward to your response. -SIGNY

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So explain to me sig how it is you intrude onto everyone else's threads with this type attitude.
Caging children who have been ripped away from their families
while creating an oasis like this thread for yourself to hide? Can you explain this? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58882&p=12

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I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Where did civilization begin?

Around 3200 B.C., civilization began in two separate areas. In an location that the world now knows as Iraq, the Sumerians settled to form Mesopotamia. In North Africa, ancient Egypt began to form along the Nile Valley.

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The Aztecs were a Mesoamerican people of central Mexico in the fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth centuries. They were a civilization with a rich cultural heritage whose capital, Tenochtitlan, rivaled the greatest cities of Europe in size and grandeur.

Although the term Aztecs is often narrowly restricted to the Mexica of Tenochtitlan, it is also broadly used to refer to Nahua polities or peoples of central Mexico in the prehispanic era, as well as the Spanish colonial era. The definitions of Aztec and Aztecs have long been the topic of scholarly discussion, ever since German scientist Alexander von Humboldt established its common usage in the early nineteenth century.

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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, haaaaaaaa………cough, cough!

Damn, I needed that. Way to go Six! I really needed a good hardy laugh out loud moment.

Thanks Buddy.


SGG

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As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....

MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.


SGG

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Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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