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In the middle of a press briefing on Sunday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the government’s top infectious disease expert, tried to answer a question about whether an anti-malaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, could be an effective treatment for Covid-19. Trump has continuously touted the drug in public despite the fact that there is no conclusive proof of its usefulness and plenty of evidence of its harmful side effects. His heedless quackery threatens to kill thousands.

The last thing Trump wanted was for Fauci to tell the truth while standing next to him in front of the press, so Trump blocked him from answering the question and attacked reporters for asking about it. “You don’t have to ask the question again,” Trump told a reporter, while complaining that Fauci had already talked about the anti-malarial drug “15 times.”

Fauci has tried hard over the last few weeks to avoid directly contradicting Trump, particularly in official press briefings. He has instead used alternative media interviews — including a popular online chat with NBA star Stephen Curry — to try to get the truth out.

Yet the fact that Fauci must stand by and let Trump spout dangerous misinformation shows how Trump’s purges have intimidated the remaining professionals inside the government.

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-trump-firings/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Trump administration shuttered pandemic monitoring program, then scrambled to extend it

As early indications of China's coronavirus outbreak emerged in late December, the Trump administration notified Congress it would still follow through with its plan to shutter a US Agency for International Development surveillance program tasked with detecting new, potentially dangerous infectious diseases and helping foreign labs stop emerging pandemic threats around the world.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-administration-shuttered
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We live in an era of no conclusive proof justifying any of the actions.

I have far less problem with Trump trying to calm a public who is borderline full panic mode with hope that there is existing treatment for another illness that can help here.

How is that dangerous?

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We live in an era of no conclusive proof justifying any of the actions.

I have far less problem with Trump trying to calm a public who is borderline full panic mode with hope that there is existing treatment for another illness that can help here.

How is that dangerous?

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Coronavirus fuels a surge in fake medicines
www.bbc.com/news/health-52201077

Trump is selling a fake covid-19 cure, hydroxychloroquine, and he is paid with votes. For the names of other crooks like Trump, see "fake covid-19 cure" www.google.com/search?q=fake+covid-19+cure

Trump, and snake oil, are on the "List of medical products of unproven efficacy for COVID-19"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_products_of_unproven_eff
icacy_for_COVID-19

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You've got millions of Americans out of work right now that haven't gotten money in 3 to 5 weeks and he's still at 45%.

Woopsie!

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You're telling me you like being lied to by a guy who has been conning Americans, and getting rich doing it, for all his life:

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You're telling me you like being lied to by a guy who has been conning Americans, and getting rich doing it, for all his life:

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Just throw out the name of every politician who ever did any politicking and that sentence fits them.

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Just throw out the name of every politician who ever did any politicking and that sentence fits them.

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No, it does NOT fit. Every Trump voter I know is cynical about politicians, even without knowing what exactly they have been lied to about. I'm cynical about Trump because I can read a list of 546 times Trump has lied his head off. Some of those lies I heard in real time. I didn't need the list because I knew the facts that Trump was lying about. His covid-19 lies are not on the list because if 546 examples aren't enough, the 547th example won't convince you that Trump is a crook and a con-man and a world champion liar.
www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-5
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Fuck you.

Idiot.

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Tens of thousands dead? Who gives a shit.

809,340 US citizens have already died this year from everything else.

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He doesn't listen to me.

And besides, I'm actually against him on the issue that he makes the decision.

It IS a state's issue.

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Tens of thousands dead? Who gives a shit.

809,340 US citizens have already died this year from everything else.

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Gerald Glenn: Bishop who said 'God is larger than this dreaded virus' dies of Covid-19

In a sermon on March 22, a day before Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam issued his executive order banning all public and private gatherings of 10 people or more, Glenn told his congregation, "I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gerald-glenn-bishop-who-said-god-is-
larger-than-this-dreaded-virus-dies-of-covid-19/ar-BB12Av3R?ocid=msedgntp

Guess not. Bye...

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The daily death toll has been declining for several days now, so even a rolling average shows a net drop in daily deaths. The trendline is once again pointing toward tomorrow as the likely peak. That means somewhere in the ballpark of 50-60,000 deaths through summer. ... the undercounting probably hasn’t changed much over time ...

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A strong social distancing regimen reduces death rates by around a third or a half, not 5x or 10x.

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This is why the United States is doing fairly well even though our response was lousy and late.

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It’s why South Korea did well with no countermeasures at all except for testing and tracing.

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It’s why red states that have resisted lockdowns haven’t suffered much for it. It’s why New York is doing so much worse than the Pacific coast states even though it lagged by only a few days in ordering lockdowns. A few days simply can’t account for a 20x difference.

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Tens of thousands dead? Who gives a shit.

809,340 US citizens have already died this year from everything else.

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Would you like your disabled brother to be one of the number who die from covid-19?

You've never felt the cold hand of the Reaper on your shoulder. I have and yes what happened to me was out of my control, I still know how lucky I am to be here today.

I don't want to see millions die over something we can control and eventually get a vaccine for.

We and I mean humanity is suppose to be smarter than this but we really don't learn from our own history even when it comes to disease. Which is just as important as learning to control our war like behavior. Humans are social beings which is why something like a virus or any bacteria can spread so fast. It's made all the worse today because we hope on a plane in one part of the world and get off in a few hours in another, not thinking about what we (an individual) is doing.

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Millions aren't going to die from this. They never were.

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In unprecedented move, Treasury orders Trump’s name printed on stimulus checks

The Treasury Department has ordered President Trump’s name be printed on stimulus checks the Internal Revenue Service is rushing to send to tens of millions of Americans, a process that could slow their delivery by a few days, senior IRS officials said.

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Millions aren't going to die from this. They never were.

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Trump obviously in the service of the super-rich. 6ix, if you weren't living in a hut and dreaming Trump would save you from your foolishness, you'd see it.

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Trump, what a schmuck. Congress is responsible for the relief checks not him. And if you're wondering why the delay in the checks getting to the people; look no further than this sad sack event. It's criminal...

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In unprecedented move, Treasury orders Trump’s name printed on stimulus checks

The Treasury Department has ordered President Trump’s name be printed on stimulus checks the Internal Revenue Service is rushing to send to tens of millions of Americans, a process that could slow their delivery by a few days, senior IRS officials said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-unprecedented-move-treasury
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I see New York is padding the death numbers by admitting to just adding 2,000+ deaths, because we're New York and we do whatever we want to do.

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We live in a seriously depleted, fragile economy. We made it that way because "centralized" means economies of scale and greater "efficiency" (profits) but is also less robust. The answer isn't more centralization, it's less.

And part of that answer is Make America great again. By hook or by crook, we need to divorce our economy from China and stop depending on them to be our manufacturing center.

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SECOND, first of all, stop paying attention to what Trump says. What Trump says, or does, has little bearing on what needs to be done.

And, I mean NEEDS. Not what we would "like" to be done, or Gee wouldn't it be nice if it was done but NEEDS to be done.

Manufacturing again in America can only happen with a lot of investment. Either Congress needs to take the bull by the horns and fund that investment directly, or create a Federal bank (yanno, like in the Constitution) to make Federal loans. Under situations of war, the President may use the Defense Production Act.

Trump, by hook or by crook, has been divorcing our economy from China's. I give him credit for that.

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I see New York is padding the death numbers by admitting to just adding 2,000+ deaths, because we're New York and we do whatever we want to do.

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What a shit show Kevin posts!!

The CDC revised its definition of "case" to include probable as well as confirmed COVID-19. "Changes in United States Data following the new CDC guidelines on "Case" and "Death" definition".

EVERYBODY changed their numbers - even Iowa - not just NY.

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I DON'T CARE WHAT TRUMP SAYS. He hosted a reality TV-show, remember? He says whatever he thinks he needs to say to get what he wants done, DONE.

I'm more interested in what HE DOES.

Jeezus, SECONDRATE, are you a dupe of reality TV shows?? You seem to take everything said seriously. ALL Presidents lie. Saint Obama lied, and he lied more consequentially than Trump.

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