Some Covid-19 thoughts by captaincrunch

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

New Zealand has ‘effectively eliminated’ coronavirus. Here’s what they did right.
www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/2020/04/what-new-zealand-did-right-i
n-battling-coronavirus/

If there is a bright spot in the global response to the pandemic, it is surely New Zealand. While governments worldwide have vacillated on how to respond and ensuing cases of the virus have soared, New Zealand has set an uncompromising, science-driven example. Though the country didn’t ban travel from China until February 3 (a day after the United States) and its trajectory of new cases looked out of control in mid-March, austerity measures seemingly have brought COVID-19 to heel.

The country began mandatory quarantines for all visitors on March 15, one of the strictest policies in the world at the time, even though there were just six cases nationwide. Just 10 days later, it instituted a complete, countrywide lockdown, including a moratorium on domestic travel. The Level 4 restrictions meant grocery stores, pharmacies, hospitals, and petrol stations were the only commerce allowed; vehicle travel was restricted; and social interaction was limited to within households.

“We must fight by going hard and going early,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said in a statement to the nation on March 14.

Like an estimated 100,000-plus international visitors in New Zealand, we were stuck. The sudden austerity could have been a cause for panic. But each day, the 39-year-old Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, or “Jaz” as she’s popularly known, made clear, concise statements about the situation to the nation, bolstered by a team of scientists and health professionals. A few days after the lockdown, she announced that instead of just slowing the transmission of the virus, New Zealand had set a course of eradicating COVID-19 from its shores, by cutting off the arrival of new cases and choking out existing ones with the restrictions. “We have the opportunity to do something no other country has achieved: elimination of the virus,” said Ardern at one of her daily briefings.

More at www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/2020/04/what-new-zealand-did-right-i
n-battling-coronavirus/

or www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-zealand-has-effectively-eliminated-co
ronavirus-heres-what-they-did-right/ar-BB13qQYu?ocid=spartanntp

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 1, 2020 9:43 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

New Zealand, as a small island nation, has a long history of acting on the understanding that it has complete control of everything that crosses into it by human transport. There is no rabies, no mad cow disease or sheep scrapie or other TSEs, no African or regular swine fever ... in fact, when it comes to diseases, agricultural pests, and environmental invaders, there's a whole lot of nothings in NZ. https://www.mpi.govt.nz/dmsdocument/10466-statement-absence-of-specifi
ed-diseases-from-new-zealand

Good for them for taking advantage of their unique geography and their long understanding of controlling imported diseases in their country, and beating SARS-COV-2!

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Friday, May 1, 2020 11:16 PM

It seems that the smallest province in Canada will be the first to reduce restrictions for its citizens. PEI which stands for Prince Edward Island is out of the gate first.

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Friday, May 1, 2020 11:30 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr

Trumps bungling uv this iz sorta getting 'normal'.

This puts it bak into proper focus:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/04/trump-coronavirus-timelin
e/?utm_source=mj-newsletters&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=political-mojo-2020-05-01

Really, in a wizer time in history, he woud hav been executed a month ago.

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http://www.7532020.com .

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Friday, May 1, 2020 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut up Commie.

Nobody gives a shit about your love for authoritarianism.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ix, you are the guy who demands human sacrifices for Trump's reelection. The inner logic of your thread "In Memoriam of the 156,154 people who died" is that no matter how many small people die it is of no importance so long as Big Man Trump survives. You have got a Mein Führer Complex.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63587&mid=10999
93#1099993

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This has nothing to do with Trump.

Trump wins the election no matter what.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:28 AM

I'm going to miss hearing about the Pow Wows that happen around the States and in Canada this summer.

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Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:08 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

'Once Upon a Virus': China mocks U.S. coronavirus response in Lego-like animation

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-usa/once-upon-a-vi
rus-china-mocks-u-s-coronavirus-response-in-lego-like-animation-idUSKBN22E0C4

Ten years from now, when economists mull the exact moment the U.S. ceded the future to China this week’s events are sure to top the list of time-stamp candidates.

This was the week, after all, when Chinese President Xi Jinping tossed another 4 trillion yuan, or $565 billion, at an economy taking devastating coronavirus blows. The 4 trillion-yuan figure will sound familiar to students of 2008 and 2009, back when Beijing threw exactly that amount at plunging demand amid the “Lehman stock.”

It worked back then. China recovered rapidly from Wall Street’s crash thanks to aggressive infrastructure spending. By 2009, China was growing 8.7% again thanks to giant public works projects—six-lane highways, bridges, ports, new skyscraper-strewn commercial centers.

Now, as Xi’s Communist Party pulls a similar play, it’s hard not to lament this week’s missteps in Mitch McConnell’s Washington.

Within the same 24 hours during which Xi’s announced a nearly $600 billion plan to build even more airports, railways and power grids, Senate Majority Leader McConnell gave the thumbs down to comparable upgrades to America’s economic hardware.

More at www.forbes.com/sites/williampesek/2020/05/01/china-spends-600-billion-
to-trump-americas-economy/

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Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm going to miss hearing about the Pow Wows that happen around the States and in Canada this summer.

They might still happen.

I know everything is subject to revision right now, but my governor came out yesterday and made a very long announement about a plan to re-open our state. I didn't catch all of it because I was working in another room while it was going on and missed some of it.

But outside of 3 counties in the state, a large majority of things that were closed down will be opened up to 25 to 50% capacity on May 4th, with the other three counties opening them back up on May 11th.

If I really wanted to, I could schedule an appointment and take a long drive to get my haircut on Monday if I wanted to. I'm not going to do that though because I always wait for a coupon and they hadn't been sending any out with the shutdown.

They're allowing social gatherings of up to 25 people on those dates too.

Still no bars, gyms, etc. Though they're not enforcing it by law, they are strongly suggesting that anybody over 65 years old still keep themselves at home unless absolutely necessary and to wear a mask when social distancing isn't possible.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:04 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm going to miss hearing about the Pow Wows that happen around the States and in Canada this summer.

They might still happen.

I know everything is subject to revision right now, but my governor came out yesterday and made a very long announement about a plan to re-open our state. I didn't catch all of it because I was working in another room while it was going on and missed some of it.

But outside of 3 counties in the state, a large majority of things that were closed down will be opened up to 25 to 50% capacity on May 4th, with the other three counties opening them back up on May 11th.

If I really wanted to, I could schedule an appointment and take a long drive to get my haircut on Monday if I wanted to. I'm not going to do that though because I always wait for a coupon and they hadn't been sending any out with the shutdown.

They're allowing social gatherings of up to 25 people on those dates too.

Still no bars, gyms, etc. Though they're not enforcing it by law, they are strongly suggesting that anybody over 65 years old still keep themselves at home unless absolutely necessary and to wear a mask when social distancing isn't possible.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Pow wows happen in the summer and some are connected to the rodeos that happen around the US and I think there is one connected with the Calgary Stampede which is not happening and I doubt the rodeos in the US will be going a head either.

I would imagine the numbers of tribal members at each pow wow depends on how many can get there and if only 1 tribe is there. So could be 100 people and then people from outside the tribal communities coming to see what all the hoopla is about. To buy the crafts, food and watch the dancing and listen to the drums.

So, no. I don't think so. No tribe would be willing to chance it.

The only people that will be happy this summer with the situation is the animal rights people who show up and protest at rodeos.

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Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:59 PM

Ya gotta have hope.

I don't think this is all going to be around much longer.

A few years from now, nobody will even be talking about it anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ya gotta have hope.

I don't think this is all going to be around much longer.

A few years from now, nobody will even be talking about it anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I hear ya Jack. But I am not convinced.

This will be in the history books. Maybe not big chapters but it will be there.

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Sunday, May 3, 2020 9:13 AM

Well... I think at the very most I might hear about 9/11 once per year. But come to think of it, I don't even people talk about it on the anniversary anymore. That wasn't even 20 years ago now.

I think in the last 5 years the only time I really heard a lot about it is when Hillary Clinton fainted at the 9/11 memorial and was thrown into that white van back in 2016.

If this one sticks around longer I think it's going to be because the kids will remember that weird summer where everyone was wearing masks and summer break was 6 months long.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, May 4, 2020 8:06 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Will coronavirus change our attitudes to death? Quite the opposite

When an epidemic erupted in a pre-modern society such as medieval Europe, people of course feared for their lives and were devastated by the death of loved ones, but the main cultural reaction was one of resignation. Psychologists might call it “learned helplessness”. People told themselves it was God’s will – or perhaps divine retribution for the sins of humankind. Who are we to thwart God’s plans?

Attitudes today are the polar opposite. Whenever some disaster kills many people – a train accident, a high-rise fire, even a hurricane – we tend to view it as a preventable human failure rather than as divine punishment or an inevitable natural calamity. If the train company didn’t stint on its safety budget, if the municipality had adopted better fire regulations, and if the government had sent help quicker – these people could have been saved. In the 21st century, mass death has become an automatic reason for lawsuits and investigations.

This is our attitude towards plagues, too. While some religious preachers were quick to describe Aids as God’s punishment for gay people, modern society mercifully relegated such views to its lunatic fringes, and these days we generally view the spread of Aids, Ebola and other recent epidemics as organisational failures. We assume that humankind has the knowledge and tools necessary to curb such plagues, and if an infectious disease nevertheless gets out of control, it is due to human incompetence rather than divine anger. Covid-19 is no exception to this rule. The crisis is far from over, yet the blame game has already begun. Different countries accuse one another. Rival politicians throw responsibility from one to the other like a hand-grenade without a pin.

Some might well argue that the crisis should teach us humility. We shouldn’t be so sure of our ability to subdue the forces of nature. Many of these naysayers are medieval holdouts, who preach humility while being 100% certain that they know all the right answers. Some bigots cannot help themselves – a pastor who leads weekly Bible study for Donald Trump’s cabinet has argued that this epidemic too is divine punishment for homosexuality. But even most paragons of tradition nowadays put their trust in science rather than in scripture.

The present crisis might indeed make many individuals more aware of the impermanent nature of human life and human achievements. Nevertheless, our modern civilisation as a whole will most probably go in the opposite direction. Reminded of its fragility, it will react by building stronger defences. When the present crisis is over, I don’t expect we will see a significant increase in the budgets of philosophy departments. But I bet we will see a massive increase in the budgets of medical schools and healthcare systems.

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/apr/20/yuval-noah-harari-will-coronavir
us-change-our-attitudes-to-death-quite-the-opposite

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 4, 2020 1:17 PM

Probably right Second. When I hear preachers saying that it is divine retribution for some "sin" humanity has committed, I just roll my eyes at such people.

There are always holdovers from some by gone era in the world. I mean there are still "Flat Earth" societies for crying out loud.

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Monday, May 4, 2020 8:09 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Will coronavirus change our attitudes to death? Quite the opposite

When an epidemic erupted in a pre-modern society such as medieval Europe, people of course feared for their lives and were devastated by the death of loved ones, but the main cultural reaction was one of resignation. Psychologists might call it “learned helplessness”. People told themselves it was God’s will – or perhaps divine retribution for the sins of humankind. Who are we to thwart God’s plans?

Attitudes today are the polar opposite. Whenever some disaster kills many people – a train accident, a high-rise fire, even a hurricane – we tend to view it as a preventable human failure rather than as divine punishment or an inevitable natural calamity. If the train company didn’t stint on its safety budget, if the municipality had adopted better fire regulations, and if the government had sent help quicker – these people could have been saved. In the 21st century, mass death has become an automatic reason for lawsuits and investigations.

This is our attitude towards plagues, too. While some religious preachers were quick to describe Aids as God’s punishment for gay people, modern society mercifully relegated such views to its lunatic fringes, and these days we generally view the spread of Aids, Ebola and other recent epidemics as organisational failures. We assume that humankind has the knowledge and tools necessary to curb such plagues, and if an infectious disease nevertheless gets out of control, it is due to human incompetence rather than divine anger. Covid-19 is no exception to this rule. The crisis is far from over, yet the blame game has already begun. Different countries accuse one another. Rival politicians throw responsibility from one to the other like a hand-grenade without a pin.

Some might well argue that the crisis should teach us humility. We shouldn’t be so sure of our ability to subdue the forces of nature. Many of these naysayers are medieval holdouts, who preach humility while being 100% certain that they know all the right answers. Some bigots cannot help themselves – a pastor who leads weekly Bible study for Donald Trump’s cabinet has argued that this epidemic too is divine punishment for homosexuality. But even most paragons of tradition nowadays put their trust in science rather than in scripture.

The present crisis might indeed make many individuals more aware of the impermanent nature of human life and human achievements. Nevertheless, our modern civilisation as a whole will most probably go in the opposite direction. Reminded of its fragility, it will react by building stronger defences. When the present crisis is over, I don’t expect we will see a significant increase in the budgets of philosophy departments. But I bet we will see a massive increase in the budgets of medical schools and healthcare systems.

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/apr/20/yuval-noah-harari-will-coronavir
us-change-our-attitudes-to-death-quite-the-opposite

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Or...

AKA None of the above.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, May 4, 2020 11:17 PM

Looks like Nunavut does not have a case of Covid-19 on its hands. False positive.

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Monday, May 4, 2020 11:20 PM

Also Hollywood North may be back in business. It will mean some drastic changes but I think it can be done.

Also hockey may be back as well. Vancouver and Edmonton being the hubs. Hotels around Rogers arena in Vancouver can accommodate 8 NHL teams. The arena in Edmonton has practice facilities around it as well as hotels.

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Monday, May 4, 2020 11:46 PM

Not being a sports fan at all, I've said since the beginning they need to bring sports back at least in some workable form ASAP. That's an important part of life for a lot of people, frivolous as it may be.

I hope the NHL can work with Canada and make that happen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:58 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not being a sports fan at all, I've said since the beginning they need to bring sports back at least in some workable form ASAP. That's an important part of life for a lot of people, frivolous as it may be.

I hope the NHL can work with Canada and make that happen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Dr. Bonnie Henry, BC's chief medical officer seems to think its doable. The games would be televised but without any fans in the arena.

She even thinks some kids sports like little league is possible as well.

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Tuesday, May 5, 2020 3:37 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Looks like Nunavut does not have a case of Covid-19 on its hands. False positive.

FANTASTIC!!!

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Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:22 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Looks like Nunavut does not have a case of Covid-19 on its hands. False positive.
FANTASTIC!!!

I know. I let out a biiiiig sigh of relief on that one.

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Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:30 PM

BC today has finally logged a day with single digit cases. Only 8. The Premier of my province is set to make a big speech tomorrow mainly to do with slowly reopening things.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:22 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
BC today has finally logged a day with single digit cases. Only 8. The Premier of my province is set to make a big speech tomorrow mainly to do with slowly reopening things.

I wish you all the best with that, Brenda. I hope people observe some distancing out of caution, and remember what Zoe said, "Wash! Wash! Wash!

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:35 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
BC today has finally logged a day with single digit cases. Only 8. The Premier of my province is set to make a big speech tomorrow mainly to do with slowly reopening things.

I wish you all the best with that, Brenda. I hope people observe some distancing out of caution, and remember what Zoe said, "Wash! Wash! Wash!

Oh, social distancing will still be in place and as Dr. Bonnie says, "Less faces, bigger spaces."

Dr. Bonnie really only ordered the shut down of hair and nail salons, barber shops and tattoo parlours. Everyone who shut down did voluntarily out of concern for their workers and their fellow citizens.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:55 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
BC today has finally logged a day with single digit cases. Only 8. The Premier of my province is set to make a big speech tomorrow mainly to do with slowly reopening things.

I wish you all the best with that, Brenda. I hope people observe some distancing out of caution, and remember what Zoe said, "Wash! Wash! Wash!

Oh, social distancing will still be in place and as Dr. Bonnie says, "Less faces, bigger spaces."

Dr. Bonnie really only ordered the shut down of hair and nail salons, barber shops and tattoo parlours. Everyone who shut down did voluntarily out of concern for their workers and their fellow citizens.

How civilized - it restores my faith in humans. I wish we had the same attitude down here. It feels like everywhere else is doing it better than the US.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:31 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
BC today has finally logged a day with single digit cases. Only 8. The Premier of my province is set to make a big speech tomorrow mainly to do with slowly reopening things.

I wish you all the best with that, Brenda. I hope people observe some distancing out of caution, and remember what Zoe said, "Wash! Wash! Wash!

Oh, social distancing will still be in place and as Dr. Bonnie says, "Less faces, bigger spaces."

Dr. Bonnie really only ordered the shut down of hair and nail salons, barber shops and tattoo parlours. Everyone who shut down did voluntarily out of concern for their workers and their fellow citizens.

How civilized - it restores my faith in humans. I wish we had the same attitude down here. It feels like everywhere else is doing it better than the US.

It's been okay up here. But Vancouver has seen a spike in hate crimes towards Asians unfortunately.

The flipside of the bad is that restaurants around Vancouver and other cities have been making meals and delivering them to the hospitals, so the staff don't have to worry about going out and such.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:13 PM

May 19th restaurants and retail can open in BC.

Mid-June we are looking at dentists, barber shops, hair salons, massage therapists and the like to open on a more regular bases. And other stuff like gyms and such over the summer into September.

All of this is of course based on, that they provide a plan to the government to show what changes they have made to their business to provide a safe work environment for their staff and customers.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:16 PM

I know you're into that whole Dr. Bonnie thing, but the idea of one "likable" person kind of dictating a bunch of stuff is creeping me out a little.

You're kind of giving me the Big Sister from Canada heebie-jeebies, Brenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 3:40 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know you're into that whole Dr. Bonnie thing, but the idea of one "likable" person kind of dictating a bunch of stuff is creeping me out a little.

You're kind of giving me the Big Sister from Canada heebie-jeebies, Brenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

She's the chief medical officer and she isn't dictating that much. Premier Horgan gave the time line for the economy to reopen in BC in his speech yesterday.

I am sure that once things settle down a little more, all chief medical officers in Canada that have been seen on the tv will fade into the background once again, Jack.

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know you're into that whole Dr. Bonnie thing, but the idea of one "likable" person kind of dictating a bunch of stuff is creeping me out a little.

You're kind of giving me the Big Sister from Canada heebie-jeebies, Brenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

She's the chief medical officer and she isn't dictating that much. Premier Horgan gave the time line for the economy to reopen in BC in his speech yesterday.

I am sure that once things settle down a little more, all chief medical officers in Canada that have been seen on the tv will fade into the background once again, Jack.

Yeah... I know. It probably says more about me.

I'm just picturing people walking around in Canada right now wearing T-shirts that say "I Love Dr. Bonnie".

lol...

Just for shits and gigs, I looked up "I Love Dr. Bonnie" in Google images. Surprisingly, there weren't any t-shirts that said that...

But this is 2020. We don't say things like that anymore.

We say things like this:

https://twitter.com/BerlandaC/status/1257082138064596992

Quote:
Christina Berlanda
@BerlandaC
Pardon my French (in a good way). Yesssss!!!! Our matching tees just got hand-delivered to me out in the gardy today(from a safe distance of course). 100% bad ass & 100% of the proceeds go to the @RainbowKitchen5
Love them and soooooo soft! #drbonniehenry true grace under fire!!

And make T-Shirts like this:

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:07 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know you're into that whole Dr. Bonnie thing, but the idea of one "likable" person kind of dictating a bunch of stuff is creeping me out a little.

You're kind of giving me the Big Sister from Canada heebie-jeebies, Brenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

She's the chief medical officer and she isn't dictating that much. Premier Horgan gave the time line for the economy to reopen in BC in his speech yesterday.

I am sure that once things settle down a little more, all chief medical officers in Canada that have been seen on the tv will fade into the background once again, Jack.

Yeah... I know. It probably says more about me.

I'm just picturing people walking around in Canada right now wearing T-shirts that say "I Love Dr. Bonnie".

lol...

Just for shits and gigs, I looked up "I Love Dr. Bonnie" in Google images. Surprisingly, there weren't any t-shirts that said that...

But this is 2020. We don't say things like that anymore.

We say things like this:

https://twitter.com/BerlandaC/status/1257082138064596992

Quote:
Christina Berlanda
@BerlandaC
Pardon my French (in a good way). Yesssss!!!! Our matching tees just got hand-delivered to me out in the gardy today(from a safe distance of course). 100% bad ass & 100% of the proceeds go to the @RainbowKitchen5
Love them and soooooo soft! #drbonniehenry true grace under fire!!

And make T-Shirts like this:

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No worries Jack.

And truthfully I wouldn't put something like that past some people.

I have not seen t-shirts like that at all. They are cute but they too will disappear.

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:15 PM

Also sign language interpreters getting kudos as well for a hard job relaying and keeping that segment of society informed at these briefings.

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:37 PM

It will be nice when this is all over. Everything just seems a little bit too Ministry of Truth for me these days.

I've heard there's sign language on everything right now. The few times I saw my Governor speak he had an interpreter.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It will be nice when this is all over. Everything just seems a little bit too Ministry of Truth for me these days.

I've heard there's sign language on everything right now. The few times I saw my Governor speak he had an interpreter.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It will be. I can't disagree with that.

It's hard to get this kind of information out to people with hearing problems. So the interpreters. I'm glad they are there. I don't know sign language but I still have a portion of my hearing. And you can't always count on Close Captioning as it can be slow on the screen, so having someone doing sign language keeps up with the speaker whoever they are.

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:59 PM

It's official.

Jon is the new name for a Male Karen.

https://twitter.com/ChipotleTweets/status/1258119347098144768

Chipotle gets ratioed to oblivion for a Tweet responding to whiny beta bitch @JustJon tweeting pictures of Chipotle employees not wearing a mask and tattling on them.

It looks like a hell of a lot of people are never going to eat there again if anything happens to any of those employees.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 12:20 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Some Covid-19 thoughts"

For your post to be OT JACK, you'd have to have - yanno - thoughts.

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Friday, May 8, 2020 12:22 AM

It is on topic.

It's about your fellow Karens and how everybody hates them and their shitty behavior.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 12:56 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Same bullshit. Different day.

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Friday, May 8, 2020 12:58 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Meanwhile, YOU have become just like SECOND. He thinks Trump can do no right, and rationalizes coups. YOU are now so hyper-partisan, you can't imagine that Trump could do any wrong - ever - and you rationalize deaths.

JACK and SECOND - two peas in a pod.

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Friday, May 8, 2020 4:24 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Meanwhile, YOU have become just like SECOND. He thinks Trump can do no right, and rationalizes coups. YOU are now so hyper-partisan, you can't imagine that Trump could do any wrong - ever - and you rationalize deaths.

JACK and SECOND - two peas in a pod.

There's nobody in the world that can "do no wrong - ever".

Your little list on the other thread was bullshit though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 4:37 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Stupid monkey ... though it's pretty cute when some of us think that they've got everything figured out.

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Friday, May 8, 2020 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Stupid monkey ... though it's pretty cute when some of us think that they've got everything figured out.

OK. That applies equally to both of us, just so you know.

You're basing your beliefs on immediate statistics that may or may not be accurate, and a very limited testing pool in a very, very large petri dish. I'm basing mine in historical trends and going on several decades obvious bad journalism to the point of propaganda.

Time is going to be the only thing that proves which of us is right.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 11:06 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

AKA None of the above.

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Saturday, May 9, 2020 8:22 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Meanwhile, YOU have become just like SECOND. He thinks Trump can do no right, and rationalizes coups. YOU are now so hyper-partisan, you can't imagine that Trump could do any wrong - ever - and you rationalize deaths.

JACK and SECOND - two peas in a pod.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany sought to reassure the news media that the White House Covid-19 testing procedures are sound. I wanted to draw attention to this quote from McEnany:

“We have put in place the guidelines that our experts have put forward to keep this building safe, which means contact tracing," McEnany told reporters during Friday’s news briefing. "All of the recommended guidelines we have for businesses that have essential workers, we are now putting them in place here in the White House. So as America reopens safely, the White House is continuing to operate safely.”

The careful reader will note a jarring juxtaposition here. McEnany claims both that the United States is reopening safely and that the White House is operating safely. But only one of these two — the White House — actually has the sort of testing regime the White House itself is now implicitly acknowledging is a prerequisite to safety.

The rest of the country largely lacks this level of testing — because Trump doesn’t want to take the steps necessary to stand up a robust federal testing regime.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/08/single-kayleigh-mcenany-quo
te-gives-away-game/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:42 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

You might feel blindsided by the coronavirus, but warnings about a looming pandemic have been there for decades. Government briefings, science journals and even popular fiction projected the spread of a novel virus and the economic impacts it would bring, complete often with details about the specific challenges the U.S. is now facing.

It makes you wonder: What else are we missing? What other catastrophes are coming that we aren’t planning for, but that could disrupt our lives, homes, jobs or our broader society in the next few years or decades?

It’s the government’s job to think about this: Every year, the intelligence community releases the Worldwide Threat Assessment—a distillation of worrisome global trends, risks, problem spots and emerging perils. But this year, the public hearing on the assessment, usually held in January or February, was canceled, evidently because intelligence leaders, who usually testify in a rare open hearing together, were worried their comments would aggravate President Donald Trump. And the government has not yet publicly released a 2020 threat report.

What would it say? Since there’s been no public version, we’ve compiled our own here, reviewing numerous government and academic reports and speaking with more than a dozen thought leaders, including scientists, researchers and current and former national security and intelligence officials.

What follows is POLITICO Magazine’s “Domestic Threat Assessment”—a list of the most significant events that might impact the United States over the next 30 to 50 years. These are threats that seem rare, but that over a given period are almost guaranteed to occur—events that politicians have a hard time understanding.

More at www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/05/07/experts-knew-pandemic-was-co
ming-what-they-fear-next-238686

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 9, 2020 4:24 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

CEOs Who Came to Meet Pence in Masks Were Asked to Remove Them

Mike Pence was unmasked in Iowa on Friday, attending two events without covering his face, even though public health officials say masks slow the spread of the deadly coronavirus and one of the vice president’s aides tested positive for Covid-19 just before he departed Washington.

What’s more, a live video stream of the second event, a roundtable discussion with food industry leaders in Des Moines, showed that all five of the invited guests arrived wearing masks but were asked to remove them shortly before the vice president joined them on stage.

The request underscored just how committed the White House is to ignoring federal health advice intended to slow the spread of the pandemic coronavirus.

After the event, at which the chief executive of Smithfield Foods choked up when mentioning the death of a worker from Covid-19, the union that represents Iowa meat-packers, who have been forced back to work by an executive order from the president despite outbreaks at their plants, suggested that it would have been more useful for Pence, Perdue, Grassley and Ernst to have worked a shift alongside them. “They should work in the same conditions and under the same fear that our members and their fellow Iowans work under every day,” the United Food and Commercial Workers union said in a statement.

More at https://theintercept.com/2020/05/09/pence-aides-positive-covid-19-test
-exposes-folly-white-house-aversion-masks/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 10, 2020 5:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by second:
You might feel blindsided by the coronavirus, but warnings about a looming pandemic have been there for decades. Government briefings, science journals and even popular fiction projected the spread of a novel virus and the economic impacts it would bring, complete often with details about the specific challenges the U.S. is now facing.

So, lack of prepardeness isn't ONLY Trump's fault?

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It makes you wonder: What else are we missing? What other catastrophes are coming that we aren’t planning for, but that could disrupt our lives, homes, jobs or our broader society in the next few years or decades?

Jeezus, what have I been harping on for YEARS? There are large natural disasters ...

Large earthquakes
Hurricanes
Massive flooding
Blizzards
Volanic eruptions (including supervolcanoes)
Meteor strikes
Wildfires
Drought
Epidemic/pandemic human disease
Crop failure/disease/insect damage
And last, but certainly not least ... EMPs

And then there are manmade ones...

War, including nuclear war
Social unrest, including civil war and ethnic cleansing
Massive cyberattack on banks, the power grid, water treatment etc
Currency collapse
Sanctions which limit vital supplies like oil
The creation and failure of any part of long, fragile supply lines
Infrastructural decay or sudden catastrophic failure (power grid overload, dam collpase, road and bridge failures)

Quote:
It’s the government’s job to think about this: Every year, the intelligence community releases the Worldwide Threat Assessment—a distillation of worrisome global trends, risks, problem spots and emerging perils. But this year, the public hearing on the assessment, usually held in January or February, was canceled, evidently because intelligence leaders, who usually testify in a rare open hearing together, were worried their comments would aggravate President Donald Trump. And the government has not yet publicly released a 2020 threat report.

I don't need a "threat report", I have a pretty good grasp of what might go wrong just by looking at history. And these
threat reports" are usually kinked ... not towards "preparedness" but how to spend more $$$ on the "intelligence community" and the MIC. They're just self-serving grabs for money and power.
Do you want to know how I know this?
Because we have been woefully unprepared at the national level for every large disaster that has occurred in the past two decades (or more) ... Katrina, the Great Recession, and the Pandemic of 2019 all caught each administration flat-footed.

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Blah blah blah

Preparedness for just about every kind of disaster tends to run along the same lines...

Local and regional production, which is redundant
On-hand surplus of cash, water, food, medicine and other essential goods at the individual, city, and regional level
Decentralized power, water, transportation and sanitation grids
Specific rescue equipment at the state and national level - pumps, cranes, 'dozers, fire-fighting aircraft, pop-up hospitals, portable generators etc
Communication and pre-planning (required of CONGRESS as well) plus technical expertise

It doesn't take rocket science to figure this out. But prepardeness takes money. It requires that people be individually and collectively "inefficient" by investing in surplus and redundant production.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:32 AM

THG

Sigs at it again. She argues nothing matters if it's not literally the worst thing happening or has happened. This style of argument is popular with sig who knows she is doing something wrong when applying it.

Sig is fully aware that she is covering up Trumps failures as she posts her attempts at fallacy of relative privation. Pointing to other unrelated disasters in an attempt to minimize Trumps Coronavirus response failures.

Crawl back under your rock sig. We've seen this from you a hundred times and more.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

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Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:55 AM